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flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:20 AM ET
This Nash thing has to many legs.
- jesustouchedme


its a smoke screen to get sather to overpay. The Flyers have to trade big money to get Nash under the cap. Who would that be? They aren't trading 8 players to get him.

jesustouchedme
Location: me0w
Joined: 02.09.2011

Feb 19 @ 9:23 AM ET
its a smoke screen to get sather to overpay. The Flyers have to trade big money to get Nash under the cap. Who would that be? They aren't trading 8 players to get him.
- flyguy12

Why would Homer have 2 separate meetings to smoke screen?
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 19 @ 9:25 AM ET
any good coaches out there unemployed?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:26 AM ET
its a smoke screen to get sather to overpay. The Flyers have to trade big money to get Nash under the cap. Who would that be? They aren't trading 8 players to get him.
- flyguy12

if homer traded for Nash w/o getting a goalie alternative, I'd want him fired. nothing would make any sense, there would be no semblance of an organizational plan...just flailing in the wind.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:28 AM ET
Why would Homer have 2 separate meetings to smoke screen?
- jesustouchedme


Who are they going to move? Put a realistic trade together and I'll believe it then. The #'s don't add up.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:30 AM ET
if homer traded for Nash w/o getting a goalie alternative, I'd want him fired. nothing would make any sense, there would be no semblance of an organizational plan...just flailing in the wind.
- isaiah520


It would have to be a 3 team trade b/c if it's Mason I will vomit. they'll be putting Homer in a dunk tank of concrete @ the carnival.
jesustouchedme
Location: me0w
Joined: 02.09.2011

Feb 19 @ 9:30 AM ET
Who are they going to move? Put a realistic trade together and I'll believe it then. The #'s don't add up.
- flyguy12

You could trade JVR and Voracek and Carle/Coburn
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:32 AM ET
You could trade JVR and Voracek and Carle/Coburn
- jesustouchedme


And then you've basically negated the Grossman and Kubina trdes.
jesustouchedme
Location: me0w
Joined: 02.09.2011

Feb 19 @ 9:35 AM ET
And then you've basically negated the Grossman and Kubina trdes.
- Jsaquella

Then during the off-season you can sign Suter
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:36 AM ET
You could trade JVR and Voracek and Carle/Coburn
- jesustouchedme


That deal puts Flyers over the Cap.
jesustouchedme
Location: me0w
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Feb 19 @ 9:37 AM ET
That deal puts Flyers over the Cap.
- flyguy12

Well honestly if Homer had 2 meetings with Columbus, hes got a plan to get under the cap.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:38 AM ET
And then you've basically negated the Grossman and Kubina trdes.
- Jsaquella

and the lilja move for that matter....hot dogs and soda add up.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:39 AM ET
Well honestly if Homer had 2 meetings with Columbus, hes got a plan to get under the cap.
- jesustouchedme

from what I've read, it's CLB pushing the issue, not homer...
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
Well honestly if Homer had 2 meetings with Columbus, hes got a plan to get under the cap.
- jesustouchedme


He can't without creating other holes in the lineup. Carle doesn't have a ton of trade value as a FA. He might get picks but he's not gonna get a big name player back.
jesustouchedme
Location: me0w
Joined: 02.09.2011

Feb 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
He can't without creating other holes in the lineup. Carle doesn't have a ton of trade value as a FA. He might get picks but he's not gonna get a big name player back.
- flyguy12

I hope it doesn't happen, but if Eskin says the Flyers really want Nash, and Columbus is pushing Nash on the Flyers. It sounds like a couple.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
It would have to be a 3 team trade b/c if it's Mason I will vomit. they'll be putting Homer in a dunk tank of concrete @ the carnival.
- flyguy12

I posted last note that I could envision a scenario where LA and CLB get together w/ us involving players like Nash, Bernier, jj, JVR, bob, carle, et al. that's about it.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
from what I've read, it's CLB pushing the issue, not homer...
- isaiah520


Only thing that leaves me confused is Nash's list of teams. Why is Columbus pushing a deal with Philly if Nash doesnt have them listed as a team he would play for?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
and the lilja move for that matter....hot dogs and soda add up.
- isaiah520


Lilja's fine as the 7th defenseman. He's better served there than Gus or MAB.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
from what I've read, it's CLB pushing the issue, not homer...
- isaiah520


Right, it's hard to get the price up on a player when there's only one team in the negotiations. If Howson can get Sather to think Toronto and Philly are involved all of a sudden Sather needs to pay more to keep Nash out of a rival's lineup. I still think it's not a big bluff b/c goal scoring isn't what ails the Flyers.
jesustouchedme
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Feb 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
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@John_Ranieri know what flyers need but I was told from within organization they like nash. Picked up 2 D men in last couple days.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
He can't without creating other holes in the lineup. Carle doesn't have a ton of trade value as a FA. He might get picks but he's not gonna get a big name player back.
- flyguy12

actually, carle would be the best dman traded yet if it happened so he could get a significant return...but only to a contender. CHI would prob pay handsomely at this point for example. then homer could use that pick(s) as part of another trade. I know this is a far out scenario.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
I posted last note that I could envision a scenario where LA and CLB get together w/ us involving players like Nash, Bernier, jj, JVR, bob, carle, et al. that's about it.
- isaiah520


LA needs to shake it up. Shut out again last night. Maybe they will petition to move to the East so they can play the Flyers more.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Feb 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
actually, carle would be the best dman traded yet if it happened so he could get a significant return...but only to a contender. CHI would prob pay handsomely at this point for example. then homer could use that pick(s) as part of another trade. I know this is a far out scenario.
- isaiah520

as of right now, anything is possible
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Feb 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
LA needs to shake it up. Shut out again last night. Maybe they will petition to move to the East so they can play the Flyers more.
- flyguy12

flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Feb 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
actually, carle would be the best dman traded yet if it happened so he could get a significant return...but only to a contender. CHI would prob pay handsomely at this point for example. then homer could use that pick(s) as part of another trade. I know this is a far out scenario.
- isaiah520


He's a pending UFA, what team is gonna give up a stud player for him?

Carle offers much more to the Flyers in their lineup then him being dealt.
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