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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 11:30 PM ET
Then what do you do for the next 8 years with Bryzgalov? Tossing in the towel on him after 40 games one year into a 9 year deal could have serious ramifications with his head, as well as enticing another goalie to come in later.
- Jsaquella


Bryzgalov is here to stay. There is no other option at this point. Flyers made the commitment and need to stick with it. Play the guy, that simple. He cant be any worse then what he was today.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 18 @ 11:30 PM ET
It absolutely would, no question about it.

Trading for Nabokov now could have serious ramifications on the next 9 years. Bringing in a new starter now...you'd better pray that there's an amnesty buyout and that Snider is cool with writing a $41mm check to kick a guy to the curb

- Jsaquella

while I believe that bryz could rebound nxt yr -I think he's spent this season - amnesty has to be in the back of homers mind...and you know it's the main thing he's thinking of if he actually brings in another goalie.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 18 @ 11:31 PM ET
One of the next move has to be for a goalie (Nabakov?). Why give away a nice part of your future for a pair of D rentals when the bigger question mark is in net?

When your goaltenders are letting in lob shots from the top of the circle, and kicking it in their own net, I can't see how a temporary upgrade on D will be beneficial in ether the short or the long run.

- 77rams


I'm not familiar with Grossman or Kubina as far as leadership roles, but the Flyers did just add two more veterans to the room for the stretch.

No idea if that's part of the reasoning, but you never know.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:32 PM ET
Well giving Nabakov a look doesn't mean they would have to commit to him beyond this year. Bring him in, see how he does, if he stands on his head then a tough decision has to be made. Can't give up on Bryzgalov after 35 starts when he has a pretty good resume, but realistically it's become worrisome.
- PLindbergh31



Unless there is an amnesty clause next year, (the owners are crooning for it), so I have to think it looks good, than it would be ok, but only if they have a plan on what to do with what they already have.

I have to think Snow would rape us for Nabokov, he can easily stand to lose him for nothing, why give him to us now?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 18 @ 11:32 PM ET
Not sure what Berniers price tag would be. Could be steep for a guy that is still unproven.
- PLindbergh31

scouts are almost unanimously in love w/ him and see him as super technically sound. imagine if we got him and simmonds instead of schenn and bryz...and I really like schenn, but...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 18 @ 11:32 PM ET
Well giving Nabakov a look doesn't mean they would have to commit to him beyond this year. Bring him in, see how he does, if he stands on his head then a tough decision has to be made. Can't give up on Bryzgalov after 35 starts when he has a pretty good resume, but realistically it's become worrisome.
- PLindbergh31


No, it doesn't. But it does mean that you're saying to Bryzgalov, who is already battling confidence issues, that you have no faith in him.

It's been worrisome for awhile. Adding Nabokov or other established NHL starter makes it worse. They've shored up the defense, now it's time for Bryz to do his part.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:33 PM ET
Why would Sather want to mess with that chemistry?
- 77rams


Rangers only have 3 guys they can count on to score. Callahan, Richards, and Gaborik. I would be surprised if they didn't go out and add a guy who can fill the net. Regardless of how good they are in goal, and on defense you can't rely on winning every playoff game 1-0, or 2-1.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 18 @ 11:34 PM ET
Not sure what Berniers price tag would be. Could be steep for a guy that is still unproven.
- PLindbergh31


If they bring Bernier in here, hope he's a confident guy. First soft goal, he gets to read the stellar analysis of Carchidi and Seravalli wondering if Hoivonen is ready
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 18 @ 11:34 PM ET
good grief.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:35 PM ET
Rangers only have 3 guys they can count on to score. Callahan, Richards, and Gaborik. I would be surprised if they didn't go out and add a guy who can fill the net. Regardless of how good they are in goal, and on defense you can't rely on winning every playoff game 1-0, or 2-1.
- PLindbergh31




aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Gaborik, Richards Lundqvist Nash = $29 million?

I don't see that happening.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 18 @ 11:36 PM ET
good grief.
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 18 @ 11:36 PM ET
Why would Sather want to mess with that chemistry?
- 77rams


Because that's what Slats loves to do . They should actually go after Shane Doan or Brenden Morrow instead if they are looking for more on wings. Those guys would add to the leadership group.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:37 PM ET
good grief.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

that's it? good grief?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:37 PM ET
No, it doesn't. But it does mean that you're saying to Bryzgalov, who is already battling confidence issues, that you have no faith in him.

It's been worrisome for awhile. Adding Nabokov or other established NHL starter makes it worse. They've shored up the defense, now it's time for Bryz to do his part.

- Jsaquella


Yeah. They are in between a rock and a hard place. The simple answer is for Bryzgalov to significantly improve his play. Is that realistic? I'm not sure. The defense is better than it was without question. It's never a dull moment with this team. At the very least they are entertaining to watch while being competitive.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:37 PM ET
Rangers only have 3 guys they can count on to score. Callahan, Richards, and Gaborik. I would be surprised if they didn't go out and add a guy who can fill the net. Regardless of how good they are in goal, and on defense you can't rely on winning every playoff game 1-0, or 2-1.
- PLindbergh31



Because the way they play now, a 20 goal scorer is like a 30 goal scorer when you only give up 1 or 2 a game every night
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:38 PM ET
that's it? good grief?
- JoeRussomanno



thought u went to bed
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 18 @ 11:39 PM ET
Kubina played with Mezzy and Carle at some point when they were both in Tampa. That may help to speed up the chemistry depending on who he is paired with. I would still rather see Carle with Grossman. Mezzy with Kubina.

And then pray to god Bryz gets some confidence.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 18 @ 11:39 PM ET
that's it? good grief?
- JoeRussomanno



yup.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:39 PM ET
thought u went to bed
- puckhead17

This place is my crack pipe okay
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 11:39 PM ET
Yeah. They are in between a rock and a hard place. The simple answer is for Bryzgalov to significantly improve his play. Is that realistic? I'm not sure. The defense is better than it was without question. It's never a dull moment with this team. At the very least they are entertaining to watch while being competitive.
- PLindbergh31


The defense has been upgraded. The team defense needs to get better. The goaltending needs to step up and provide some stability. The Flyers could be a very dangerous team if they play some defense.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:39 PM ET
If they bring Bernier in here, hope he's a confident guy. First soft goal, he gets to read the stellar analysis of Carchidi and Seravalli wondering if Hoivonen is ready
- Jsaquella


Exactly. I know Bernier is a big prospect, and he's stuck behind Quick, but he isn't a sure fire answer. I think the Flyers will have to sink or swim with the duo they have at least through next season.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:39 PM ET
This place is my crack pipe okay
- JoeRussomanno




JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:41 PM ET
yup.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

I'm just saying this is like living the walking dead in here after a game. And the fact Bryz actually was bad today oh man I feel like I survived the Soviet missile launch
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:41 PM ET
Because the way they play now, a 20 goal scorer is like a 30 goal scorer when you only give up 1 or 2 a game every night
- puckhead17


Maybe. If I was the GM I would be hesitant to upset the apple cart.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 18 @ 11:42 PM ET
"Oh, you saw that..."


- tangent_man


Pure dumb luck. My Kindle needed to charge, so I went on Twitter on my phone.
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