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mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:18 PM ET
Howard Eskin@howardeskinReply
i know what flyers need but I was told from within organization they like nash. Picked up 2 D men in last couple days
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:19 PM ET
How the hell does Nash fix the problems the Flyers have now and in the future?

It doesn't, let's move on.

- flyguy12



He doesn't, and it's a pipe dream because of the cap. The players named in all the rumors are all lower-salaried players: JvR (last year of ELC), Schenn, Couturier, Bob, Read, Coburn... how many of these guys would it take to make the trade cap-neutral? The Kubina trade officially kills Nash to Philly at the deadline anyway. Move on indeed.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Feb 18 @ 8:19 PM ET
Eeeek! Sore topic in here.....
- steelydan


It's just unfortunate that every time Bryz poops the bed there is a riot with pitchforks
Out to get him. The only goal I had a problem with was the first.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:20 PM ET
Howard Eskin@howardeskinReply
i know what flyers need but I was told from within organization they like nash. Picked up 2 D men in last couple days

- mydoglicks

And what do the need howard? HELP US OUT!
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Feb 18 @ 8:20 PM ET
Bill,

Do you think Bryz is bouncing back from this year? Or is his head mush?

Homer certainly has the balls to cut bait.
jesustouchedme
Location: me0w
Joined: 02.09.2011

Feb 18 @ 8:20 PM ET
Howard Eskin@howardeskinReply
i know what flyers need but I was told from within organization they like nash. Picked up 2 D men in last couple days

- mydoglicks

If it costs them Schenn or Couts, this will suck
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:21 PM ET
Bill,

Do you think Bryz is bouncing back from this year? Or is his head mush?

Homer certainly has the balls to cut bait.

- flyguy12



No Movement Clause
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 18 @ 8:21 PM ET
It's probably Kalinski getting moved for a 6th round pick or something to that effect.

The defense core now has 6 veterans on the blueline, it should be a fairly solid group once they play 5 or so games together. It's all about the goaltending now. If it gets better Flyers can challenge, if it doesn't they are first round fodder.

- PLindbergh31


really impressed with grossman's strength today.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 18 @ 8:22 PM ET
Howard Eskin@howardeskinReply

Report out of Canada flyers Acquire D Pavel Kubina from Tampa pending league approval. Still won't be done. Want Rick Nash from Columbus.

- mydoglicks

What sucks is, this is the only way that a Nash deal makes sense. We're at 51 contracts with Kabina and I'm sure a deal for nash will cost a few contracts going the other way.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 8:22 PM ET
He doesn't, and it's a pipe dream because of the cap. The players named in all the rumors are all lower-salaried players: JvR (last year of ELC), Schenn, Couturier, Bob, Read, Coburn... how many of these guys would it take to make the trade cap-neutral? The Kubina trade officially kills Nash to Philly at the deadline anyway. Move on indeed.
- Tomahawk


Voice.Of.Reason

With the Kubina move the Flyers have very little cap room now.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Feb 18 @ 8:22 PM ET
He doesn't, and it's a pipe dream because of the cap. The players named in all the rumors are all lower-salaried players: JvR (last year of ELC), Schenn, Couturier, Bob, Read, Coburn... how many of these guys would it take to make the trade cap-neutral? The Kubina trade officially kills Nash to Philly at the deadline anyway. Move on indeed.
- Tomahawk


Thank you. I mentioned that earlier as well. Need to move $ to get $.

If they make a blockbuster make it for a goalie like Miller (not saying he's available).

I'd like to see Gaustad's size and grit down the middle and see that type of move made before a type of block buster.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 18 @ 8:22 PM ET
It's probably Kalinski getting moved for a 6th round pick or something to that effect.

The defense core now has 6 veterans on the blueline, it should be a fairly solid group once they play 5 or so games together. It's all about the goaltending now. If it gets better Flyers can challenge, if it doesn't they are first round fodder.

- PLindbergh31

I don't think that would be the case. If it was, I think the deal would be announced by now. Plus, who would trade a pick, even a late one, for a guy that nearly never played again and doesn't project to be an NHL player anymore? I've been known to be wrong before tho.
ukeman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Yakety Sax, PA
Joined: 06.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 8:23 PM ET
It's just unfortunate that every time Bryz poops the bed there is a riot with pitchforks
Out to get him. The only goal I had a problem with was the first.

- KGBflyers10

All 3 were bad. Even b clement said so. Bryz is mentally effed
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:23 PM ET
If it costs them Schenn or Couts, this will suck
- jesustouchedme

You have to give to get. I agree though, I like them both. But if I had to pick, Id probably keep Cooter over Schenn. Not by much though.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 18 @ 8:23 PM ET
No Movement Clause
- Tomahawk


Metallurg Magnitogorsk
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 18 @ 8:23 PM ET
It's probably Kalinski getting moved for a 6th round pick or something to that effect.

The defense core now has 6 veterans on the blueline, it's should be a fairly solid group once they play 5 or so games together. It's all about the goaltending now. If it gets better Flyers can challenge, if it doesn't they are first round fodder.

- PLindbergh31


The D acquisitions could also be stockpiling so that another one of them could be moved. I have no idea, really.

The Kalinski scratch reeks of him being next, and that's a nice option to have. Finally. It's been a while since the Flyers had a relatively full slate of NHL forwards and could deal from Adirondack without potentially hurting themselves.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Feb 18 @ 8:23 PM ET
No Movement Clause
- Tomahawk


Why wouldn't he waive??? He's dogpoop in this town.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 8:24 PM ET
No Movement Clause
- Tomahawk


I think getting Bryzgalov to waive the NMC might not be hard. He may believe he's not cut out to play in this town. Especially after his comments after the game.

I think the more unlikely situation, is finding a team to take his contract if he did indeed agree to waive the NMC.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:25 PM ET
Thank you. I mentioned that earlier as well. Need to move $ to get $.

If they make a blockbuster make it for a goalie like Miller (not saying he's available).

I'd like to see Gaustad's size and grit down the middle and see that type of move made before a type of block buster.

- flyguy12



They can't make a blockbuster unless it's $ for $, and the only way you can get that w/o ripping holes open on the roster is to trade one of the high-dollar players on the team, but wait, they all have movement clauses.... Kubina and Grossman are probably it, unless they deal Bob for an "upgrade" behind Bryz.
ukeman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Yakety Sax, PA
Joined: 06.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 8:25 PM ET
Why wouldn't he waive??? He's dogpoop in this town.
- flyguy12

Based on his comments after I think he would like to get out
jesustouchedme
Location: me0w
Joined: 02.09.2011

Feb 18 @ 8:25 PM ET


Indulge
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Feb 18 @ 8:25 PM ET
Absolutely. This makes sense for a young team looking for a leader. We have enough leaders in this locker room, and G will be our Captain. No need to bring in Nash, blow up our youth, and tie up the cap for years to come...
- steelydan

I don't know...we have started sooo many rookies this year and they have performed well, but appear to be fading. I would take Nash and Mason if they would take Bryz back in the deal (but he has an NMC I think) with JVR and Carle / Coburn.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 18 @ 8:25 PM ET
I think getting Bryzgalov to waive the NMC might not be hard. He may believe he's not cut out to play in this town. Especially after his comments after the game.

I think the more unlikely situation, is finding a team to take his contract if he did indeed agree to waive the NMC.

- PLindbergh31


yep. or getting anything for him. bob gainey isn't a gm anymore, you know, so no mcondagh for him
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 8:26 PM ET
I don't think that would be the case. If it was, I think the deal would be announced by now. Plus, who would trade a pick, even a late one, for a guy that nearly never played again and doesn't project to be an NHL player anymore? I've been known to be wrong before tho.
- Flyers1218


Feaster gave up a 5th round pick for Pierre Luc Letorneau Leblond.
ukeman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Yakety Sax, PA
Joined: 06.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 8:27 PM ET
I think getting Bryzgalov to waive the NMC might not be hard. He may believe he's not cut out to play in this town. Especially after his comments after the game.

I think the more unlikely situation, is finding a team to take his contract if he did indeed agree to waive the NMC.

- PLindbergh31

Agreed. Unlikely as it may be Nash, mason for Bryz saves cbj money
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