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LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Feb 17 @ 2:25 PM ET
i thought geoffrion was suppose to be pretty good but im no scout
- Slammed81


No, you're right. He's also the grandson of the Hab legend himself. The pressure is on for that kid.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:25 PM ET
Bill, Do you have any inkling what it will take to re sign Grossman?
Any rumors as to what Dallas was offering that was turned down?

- Marc D


Considering the UFA market tends to overpay for defensemen and quite a few teams had interest in Grossman along with the Flyers, I think his next contract will be north of $3M per season. Perhaps about $3.25 M in a two-year or three-year deal, at which point he'd be a 29-year-old or 30-year-old UFA in line for another contract if he stays healthy.

Understand, I'm not saying that's what the player is necessarily worth. But defensemen are an expensive commodity both on the trade and FA markets.

Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:25 PM ET
I have had one. They are tremendous. Minus the slaw of course.
- PLindbergh31


Then you have not had one.

(Now I feel kinda sick for saying nice things about a Pitt product the day before a big game )
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:26 PM ET
2nd rounder and Geoffrion is a mighty fine deal. Blake won the Hobey Baker award a year ago.
- LordStanley88


He is a good prospect, but he's been up and down as a pro. I know Nashville was really high on him a short while ago.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 2:26 PM ET
Geoffrion and Slaney, I know nothing about these two players.
- Marc D


Blake Geoffrion is a former Hobey Baker Award winner, but has struggled in the pros. Has needed to adapt to more of a defensive role.

The other guy is a nobody.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Feb 17 @ 2:27 PM ET
If this is a look at the price of defenseman going into this trade deadline for a 4-6th depth dman....Im scared to see what any 1-4 top dman will be worth...this screams out...DONT DO ANYTHING STUPID HOMER. DGID!!!!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:27 PM ET
No, you're right. He's also the grandson of the Hab legend himself. The pressure is on for that kid.
- LordStanley88


Yeah, Boom-Boom, jr...Best of luck kid.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:28 PM ET
Considering the UFA market tends to overpay for defensemen and quite a few teams had interest in Grossman along with the Flyers, I think his next contract will be north of $3M per season. Perhaps about $3.25 M in a two-year or three-year deal, at which point he'd be a 29-year-old or 30-year-old UFA in line for another contract if he stays healthy.

Understand, I'm not saying that's what the player is necessarily worth. But defensemen are an expensive commodity both on the trade and FA markets.

- bmeltzer

Understood, thanks.
Matt Carle is probably looking at $5+M for a 4-5 year deal coming.
The defenseman who can play these days are going to be rich.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Feb 17 @ 2:28 PM ET
He is a good prospect, but he's been up and down as a pro. I know Nashville was really high on him a short while ago.
- Jsaquella


True, but he did score 6 goals in 20 games at the end of last season. We'll see how this all plays out, but the Habs have done of fine job drafting in the 2nd round lately so I like this for them.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Feb 17 @ 2:29 PM ET
One good thing is he (Gill) Did not go to an Eastern playoff team atleast
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
do u think they brought up Wellwood to showcase him?? i mean it was harry Z just curious why they brought him up.. i may be stretching i mean hes not a stud but maybe a piece in a package
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
One good thing is he (Gill) Did not go to an Eastern playoff team atleast
- Buzzo

I was worried he'd go to the Rags or B's yes
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
One good thing is he (Gill) Did not go to an Eastern playoff team atleast
- Buzzo


With Rinne, Nashville is looking very formidable defensivelly.

Will have trouble scoring, but they gave the Canucks all they could handle last season.

I like the Preds.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
One good thing is he (Gill) Did not go to an Eastern playoff team atleast
- Buzzo

I think the Pens would have made an offer for Gill too, at least.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
True, but he did score 6 goals in 20 games at the end of last season. We'll see how this all plays out, but the Habs have done of fine job drafting in the 2nd round lately so I like this for them.
- LordStanley88


Yeah, it's not a bad deal for the Habs at all. Geoffrion's whole family played for the Habs it seems. Great Grandfather was Howie Morenz, HHOFer, then grandfather was Boom Boom Geoffrion, and his dad also played for Habs.
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
With Rinne, Nashville is looking very formidable defensivelly.

Will have trouble scoring, but they gave the Canucks all they could handle last season.

I like the Preds.

- flyer_nutter


yea they got the tools to make a run no doubt about it
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:32 PM ET
do u think they brought up Wellwood to showcase him?? i mean it was harry Z just curious why they brought him up.. i may be stretching i mean hes not a stud but maybe a piece in a package
- Slammed81


I think that Harry Z was in Lava's doghouse for his careless play against Nashville that led to the only goal against.
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 17 @ 2:34 PM ET
I think that Harry Z was in Lava's doghouse for his careless play against Nashville that led to the only goal against.
- Jsaquella


yea i remember that seems alittle harsh but i could see that i always like wellwood always played well when he gets called up... just me
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:34 PM ET
I think that Harry Z was in Lava's doghouse for his careless play against Nashville that led to the only goal against.
- Jsaquella

Still?
I like Wellwood, he showed some speed and energy last night, but I like Harry Z too.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:35 PM ET
Hal Gill to the Preds
- bradleyc4


Great! One less potential mine for Holmer to put his foot on as he crosses the DMZ between today and the TDL!

The Grossman deal works for me. If they can get a guy like Allen for a fair price and maybe pick up a guy like Gaustad, without losing much from the roster I'd be just peachy. I'm not interested in JVR for Schenn. That deal isn't necessary this season.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:35 PM ET
Yeah, it's not a bad deal for the Habs at all. Geoffrion's whole family played for the Habs it seems. Great Grandfather was Howie Morenz, HHOFer, then grandfather was Boom Boom Geoffrion, and his dad also played for Habs.
- Jsaquella


That should get him a nice ovation.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:36 PM ET
Still?
I like Wellwood, he showed some speed and energy last night, but I like Harry Z too.

- Marc D


So do I. I see no other reason that he didn't get recalled, unless the are showcasing Wellwood as a piece of a trade.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:36 PM ET
yea i remember that seems alittle harsh but i could see that i always like wellwood always played well when he gets called up... just me
- Slammed81


I did Wellwood's game. Good speed, smart, works hard.
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 17 @ 2:38 PM ET
I did Wellwood's game. Good speed, smart, works hard.
- Jsaquella

could help in the playoffs if our energy guys gets hurt
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:38 PM ET
One good thing is he (Gill) Did not go to an Eastern playoff team atleast
- Buzzo


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