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With the amount that I watch both the Oilers and the Penguins he really isn't. He just isn't the Penguins style. All flash and very little crash. It would be like a younger version of Kovalev. - Ben37
Perfect name to throw out there relative to a comparison to Hemsky.
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nh4442
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Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA Joined: 05.28.2010
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He is more likely to land on the IR with a borken toenail when entering the Pens locker room for the first time after a trade. Richard Park has the same amount of goals as Hemsky does. How on earth does that help Pittsburgh? He is better than most of our wingers when he is interested and healthy. Problem is, one of those two things are always missing. - Oneonta Penguin
you dont think on a line with sid or staal he wont be motivated and he is healthy now... |
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Perfect name to throw out there relative to a comparison to Hemsky. - Oneonta Penguin
Oilers better hope not since the Pens got a whole lotta nothing in that trade.
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LoveGun
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Location: Detroit, MI Joined: 02.25.2011
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Too much... - zach parise9
SHUT YOUR FILTHY WHORE MOUTH |
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Oilers better hope not since the Pens got a whole lotta nothing in that trade. - Urethra Franklin
And that was for a seventh round pick, so I would take that chance again. Sending more than a late second to Edmonton for Hemsky is foolish from Pittsburgh's standpoint.
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PredsFan8
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Location: Nashville, TN Joined: 01.21.2011
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Because they still have to prove to Suter that they will do what is needed to win. Besides it is Ellis they need if Suter blows town. - Tapdog
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PredsFan8
Nashville Predators |
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Location: Nashville, TN Joined: 01.21.2011
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we want Ryan Ellis for Hemmer! - Bonzi
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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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Why deal Blum if there's a chance Suter doesn't return? - Urethra Franklin
Suter and Weber are gonna get big money, but the Preds are prepared to give it to them. |
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And that was for a seventh round pick, so I would take that chance again. Sending more than a late second to Edmonton for Hemsky is foolish from Pittsburgh's standpoint. - Oneonta Penguin
Hemsky has taken a tonne of abuse this year both on and off the ice... some of the hits he took this year like the recent one from Kronwall definitely shows he is a different player health wise this year than the previous 2 years... Some of you trolls are out to lunch... there IS NO ONE available right now in Hemsky's level on the block... a late 2nd round choice... if it means so much to that team by all means keep it... |
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LOL!!! - PredsFan8
Why the hell would we want a 5'10" midget on our back end... if you know anything about the oil we need to get bigger not smaller even on our backend... |
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Hemsky has taken a tonne of abuse this year both on and off the ice... some of the hits he took this year like the recent one from Kronwall definitely shows he is a different player health wise this year than the previous 2 years... Some of you trolls are out to lunch... there IS NO ONE available right now in Hemsky's level on the block... a late 2nd round choice... if it means so much to that team by all means keep it... - saskoil21
So, there is no one available right now that is on the same level as a guy that remains disinterested, is soft, and is a free agent that has 4 goals and 20 assists in like 45 games? (Sorry, Richard Park indeed has more goals than Hemsky - sorry for my mistake earlier). Skill wise, when healthy and interested, you are correct. His talent, when he wants to display it, is unquestioned. One of those two things - healthy or interested is always missing with that cat. I think I can find a better fit for Pittsburgh that might not have the skill, but would bust his ass; isn't soft and has put up the same amount of points as Hemsky does without question.
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dallas717
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.03.2010
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Ruutu getting hurt is the best thing to have ever happened to Hemsky's trade value. Considering Dominic Moore is worth a 2nd round pick, Hemsky has to be worth either a 1st round pick and a prospect or a roster player and a conditional pick. I really wish the Oilers would re-sign Hemsky, 4 or 5 years at $4.5 million sounds about right to me. The sad thing is this thing has gone way too far for him to ever stay. Now that he has finally had reconstructive surgery on his shoulder, injuries shouldn't be as much of a problem, and he's been awesome the last 5 games. He is a good fit for the Oilers in the top 6 behind Eberle. I don't understand what everybody wanting to trade him expects to replace him with, magic beans? Omark is not a top 6 guy. Although Paajarvi has looked like one the past 3 games, the jury is still out on him. Smyth is no longer a top 6, but a top 9. That leaves the Oilers with only 4 top 6 players. For a team that is trying to actually become competitive, trading Hemsky is a big step in the wrong direction. My 2 cents. |
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Location: Chateauguay, QC Joined: 08.17.2011
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Done! Just sign here. - Maxbone
i rather ellis than blum |
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Ruutu getting hurt is the best thing to have ever happened to Hemsky's trade value. Considering Dominic Moore is worth a 2nd round pick, Hemsky has to be worth either a 1st round pick and a prospect or a roster player and a conditional pick. I really wish the Oilers would re-sign Hemsky, 4 or 5 years at $4.5 million sounds about right to me. The sad thing is this thing has gone way too far for him to ever stay. Now that he has finally had reconstructive surgery on his shoulder, injuries shouldn't be as much of a problem, and he's been awesome the last 5 games. He is a good fit for the Oilers in the top 6 behind Eberle. I don't understand what everybody wanting to trade him expects to replace him with, magic beans? Omark is not a top 6 guy. Although Paajarvi has looked like one the past 3 games, the jury is still out on him. Smyth is no longer a top 6, but a top 9. That leaves the Oilers with only 4 top 6 players. For a team that is trying to actually become competitive, trading Hemsky is a big step in the wrong direction. My 2 cents. - dallas717
You forgot that Grigs or Forsberg will be drafted this year... Either of those will fill our top 6 and they have size which is something we are in dire need of getting! |
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So, there is no one available right now that is on the same level as a guy that remains disinterested, is soft, and is a free agent that has 4 goals and 20 assists in like 45 games? (Sorry, Richard Park indeed has more goals than Hemsky - sorry for my mistake earlier). Skill wise, when healthy and interested, you are correct. His talent, when he wants to display it, is unquestioned. One of those two things - healthy or interested is always missing with that cat. I think I can find a better fit for Pittsburgh that might not have the skill, but would bust his ass; isn't soft and has put up the same amount of points as Hemsky does without question. - Oneonta Penguin
You are only using this years pts in comparison... Hemsky every other year plays at close to a ppg player... like it was stated before keep the Richard Park's if you so desire... |
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dallas717
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.03.2010
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You forgot that Grigs or Forsberg will be drafted this year... Either of those will fill our top 6 and they have size which is something we are in dire need of getting! - saskoil21
I would honestly be shocked if the Oilers didn't take Murray or Dumba. Bob Stauffer said on Oilers Now a few weeks ago that he can't see the Oilers not taking a defenseman if they draft 2nd or 3rd. We can't keep neglecting our defense, we need it badly. Last week one scout said that the comparisons of Murray to Niedermayer and Lidstrom need to stop because he is more like Ray Bourque. Those are some pretty big names to be compared to. I understand nobody is a sure thing, but that includes Grigorenko and Forsberg as well, they would not be locks for the Oilers top 6. Honestly, the only logical scenario in which the Oilers don't use their top 3 pick to draft a defenseman is if they somehow miraculously put a package together to get another top 10 pick and grab Griffin Reinhart so they can take a forward. |
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I would honestly be shocked if the Oilers didn't take Murray or Dumba. Bob Stauffer said on Oilers Now a few weeks ago that he can't see the Oilers not taking a defenseman if they draft 2nd or 3rd. We can't keep neglecting our defense, we need it badly. Last week one scout said that the comparisons of Murray to Niedermayer and Lidstrom need to stop because he is more like Ray Bourque. Those are some pretty big names to be compared to. I understand nobody is a sure thing, but that includes Grigorenko and Forsberg as well, they would not be locks for the Oilers top 6. Honestly, the only logical scenario in which the Oilers don't use their top 3 pick to draft a defenseman is if they somehow miraculously put a package together to get another top 10 pick and grab Griffin Reinhart so they can take a forward. - dallas717
There was also talk of and the fact that very few dmen taken in the first round get the time to develop properly and some get passed by dmen taken in the later rounds... anything is possible but I am not sure we are going to want to put all our eggs on a dman that may or may not pan out ... I am not saying we should not draft Murray but we also need size up front... which we have never had since 1990...and a big center like grigs sure can make up for alot... added to the fact that fwds seem to be more of a sure thing... just saying... |
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You are only using this years pts in comparison... Hemsky every other year plays at close to a ppg player... like it was stated before keep the Richard Park's if you so desire... - saskoil21
What's wrong with using this year's comparisons? He will be playing more games this year than he has in three years. He will finish playing close to 60 games this year - maybe, unless he has an infected toenail and his point total will be far less than when he played 47 games last year. He isn't a goal scorer anymore. He went from a +3 last year I believe to right now a -15. He has looked absolutely horrid everytime I see him. Richard Park doesn't possess 15% of Hemsky's skill, however, he busts his ass every time on the ice and is a better fit. He plays with Craig Adams and Vitale and has more goals than Hemsky and who he is lined up with?
Some idiot GM gave up a load for Kaberle last year. Granted, while Kaberle did absolutely nothing for that team, Boston won the Cup. I'm sure some idiot GM will give up a boat load for Ales Hemsky and will probably be left shaking his head asking why when the season is over. Shero is no idiot. Agree to disagree
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What's wrong with using this year's comparisons? He will be playing more games this year than he has in three years. He will finish playing close to 60 games this year - maybe, unless he has an infected toenail and his point total will be far less than when he played 47 games last year. He isn't a goal scorer anymore. He went from a +3 last year I believe to right now a -15. He has looked absolutely horrid everytime I see him. Richard Park doesn't possess 15% of Hemsky's skill, however, he busts his ass every time on the ice and is a better fit. He plays with Craig Adams and Vitale and has more goals than Hemsky and who he is lined up with?
Some idiot GM gave up a load for Kaberle last year. Granted, while Kaberle did absolutely nothing for that team, Boston won the Cup. I'm sure some idiot GM will give up a boat load for Ales Hemsky and will probably be left shaking his head asking why when the season is over. Shero is no idiot. Agree to disagree - Oneonta Penguin
Agreed Shero likely will not be that guy... I agree that hemsky looked disinterested a fair amount this year... But with the right change of scenery could do some great things... Look what he did for Smyth and Horcoff in the years passed...
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b1ktrj32
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Location: Chateauguay, QC Joined: 08.17.2011
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kneughter
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Location: “yup call came in, but as pe Joined: 07.14.2009
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Suter and Weber are gonna get big money, but the Preds are prepared to give it to them. - mochoson
At what point in nashvilles history have they given any indication that they are willing to dish out like 7 million dollars to 3 different players?
Not a chance... 1 of those two guys will be gone before the draft. They will try and trade for a couple young prospects plus picks. They love prospect making entry level deals. |
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Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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- Forget about Hemsky re-signing in Edmonton. Hemsky wants a four or more year deal, and the Oilers are offering one or two. Sounds like the money is all wrong too, as the Hemsky camp wants $5mil+ per season. - Maxbone
If that's true, Hemsky's camp is bat-sh1t crazy. |
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laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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Would you take Blum and a 1st for Hemsky? - PredsFan8
(frank) yes. |
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Say what you want about Bryan Rodney but his 13 pts in 33 NHL games puts him second on our team for points per game on D (sob). |
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Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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trading hemsky would make yet another roster hole - gravis82
Depends on what he's looking for though... If he expects a multiple year contract at 5 mil per, he's nuts... |
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