He has been a healthy scratch on a team that is 3rd to last in goal against in the East. Scares me a little. He would definitely be more physical than Staios or Eaton that is for sure. It could happen. As of right now only Streit, Hamonic and AMac are under contract for next year.
- Isles316

Thank you for your comments Isles 316 and BringBackBailey. I just think the Islanders would be better off if they looked to bring some players at the trade deadline that would help next year rather than wait for the summer when it seems like a "feeding fest" with the other teams on July 1. I'm thinking they need to a #2 Center, a power forward that would be on the line with JT, two defensemen (one physical and one that carries the puck). Also, decide on the goaltending. My opinion is pickup two of the needs now and then work on the other two in the summer. The goaltending is easy if they want to pay Nabokov. Also, I think if they if the results were better, they probably would get an arena deal. What do you guys think...

Thank you for your comments Isles 316 and BringBackBailey. I just think the Islanders would be better off if they looked to bring some players at the trade deadline that would help next year rather than wait for the summer when it seems like a "feeding fest" with the other teams on July 1. I'm thinking they need to a #2 Center, a power forward that would be on the line with JT, two defensemen (one physical and one that carries the puck). Also, decide on the goaltending. My opinion is pickup two of the needs now and then work on the other two in the summer. The goaltending is easy if they want to pay Nabokov. Also, I think if they if the results were better, they probably would get an arena deal. What do you guys think...
- kear20

I think you are dead on in what they need to be a good team and I think it's a very important time for the franchise from now until the start of next season. The team being successful would only help them with their arena efforts. (I have an entirely different theory on the arena though).

They haven't been successful getting big names via free agency but Snow has signed Streit, Moulson and Parenteau all who are arguably as solid free agent signings as any the last few years. This past offseason was a bust though. There are needs for this team and they need to be addressed sooner than later.

Thank you for your comments Isles 316 and BringBackBailey. I just think the Islanders would be better off if they looked to bring some players at the trade deadline that would help next year rather than wait for the summer when it seems like a "feeding fest" with the other teams on July 1. I'm thinking they need to a #2 Center, a power forward that would be on the line with JT, two defensemen (one physical and one that carries the puck). Also, decide on the goaltending. My opinion is pickup two of the needs now and then work on the other two in the summer. The goaltending is easy if they want to pay Nabokov. Also, I think if they if the results were better, they probably would get an arena deal. What do you guys think...
- kear20

I completely agree......here's my take on this. If Nabokov doesn't want to sign and play here (which all indications is he doesn't) then trade him at the deadline (if they've fallen back) and let Poulin take over next year. Of course there is always the DP debacle to deal with but sign a useful back up G (ala Biron type). The problem with signing a #2 centerman is how long do you sign him for when you know Strome is in waiting? Definitely need to upgrade D by any means necessary.

I think you are dead on in what they need to be a good team and I think it's a very important time for the franchise from now until the start of next season. The team being successful would only help them with their arena efforts. (I have an entirely different theory on the arena though).

They haven't been successful getting big names via free agency but Snow has signed Streit, Moulson and Parenteau all who are arguably as solid free agent signings as any the last few years. This past offseason was a bust though. There are needs for this team and they need to be addressed sooner than later.
- Isles316

I just wish they would do something. I really think if they could put a streak together, they would make the playoffs.

So what is your theory on the arena? I think they should sign a short term lease in Brooklyn and then see who blinks (ie Nassau, Suffolk or Queens). I don't think Wang is getting any good deals on selling the Islanders or he would have sold them already. I think Botta's article was full of speculation.

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I completely agree......here's my take on this. If Nabokov doesn't want to sign and play here (which all indications is he doesn't) then trade him at the deadline (if they've fallen back) and let Poulin take over next year. Of course there is always the DP debacle to deal with but sign a useful back up G (ala Biron type). The problem with signing a #2 centerman is how long do you sign him for when you know Strome is in waiting? Definitely need to upgrade D by any means necessary.
- BringBackBalky

Oh man and I was having a great day too!!!

I completely agree......here's my take on this. If Nabokov doesn't want to sign and play here (which all indications is he doesn't) then trade him at the deadline (if they've fallen back) and let Poulin take over next year. Of course there is always the DP debacle to deal with but sign a useful back up G (ala Biron type). The problem with signing a #2 centerman is how long do you sign him for when you know Strome is in waiting? Definitely need to upgrade D by any means necessary.
- BringBackBalky

Thanks for your comments. I was thinking trading for a #2 center that has another year on his deal. That way, Strome would start the season in Bridgeport next year and then after some seasoning he would be brough up. It seems to work...Harmonic, deHaan also looked good the game he played. Ulmstrom played well. I think Snow doesn't want to break up Bridgeport 's core because he thinks they have a shot at making a long run in the AHL playoffs...

I just wish they would do something. I really think if they could put a streak together, they would make the playoffs.

So what is your theory on the arena? I think they should sign a short term lease in Brooklyn and then see who blinks (ie Nassau, Suffolk or Queens). I don't think Wang is getting any good deals on selling the Islanders or he would have sold them already. I think Botta's article was full of speculation.
- kear20

My theory is that Wang has no money, and no investors. When the Lighthouse project was rejected by the Town of Hempstead, they came back with a plan for a project that was 25% of what Wang originally wanted. Where is Mr. Wang going to get a better offer than that? He most certainly can make money if he is able to develop 25% of 77 acres no?

I can't find it online anymore, I just looked but about a year ago a investment blog reported that Wang was being sued for over 1 Billion dollars in civil cases regarded Computer Assosciates and that he was losing money privately and his net worth wasn't nearly what it once was. To be fair, this columnist seemed to hate Wangs guts so I'm not sure how accurate it was. Either way, if the Town Of Hempstead was willing to let him develop 25% of what he wanted to develop, I ask this again. Where is he going to get a better option or offer?

Brooklyn is a stand alone building where he can't possibly make the same money and he would be what he is now, a tenant.

Thoughts?

My theory is that Wang has no money, and no investors. When the Lighthouse project was rejected by the Town of Hempstead, they came back with a plan for a project that was 25% of what Wang originally wanted. Where is Mr. Wang going to get a better offer than that? He most certainly can make money if he is able to develop 25% of 77 acres no?

I can't find it online anymore, I just looked but about a year ago a investment blog reported that Wang was being sued for over 1 Billion dollars in civil cases regarded Computer Assosciates and that he was losing money privately and his net worth wasn't nearly what it once was. To be fair, this columnist seemed to hate Wangs guts so I'm not sure how accurate it was. Either way, if the Town Of Hempstead was willing to let him develop 25% of what he wanted to develop, I ask this again. Where is he going to get a better option or offer?

Brooklyn is a stand alone building where he can't possibly make the same money and he would be what he is now, a tenant.

Thoughts?
- Isles316

Edit: Which is why Ed Mangano tried to get a publically financed building through on August 1st without development. It doesn't make sense if Wang had the investors to build up the area around it that it would have to go to a public vote where Wang didn't stand much financial gain.

My theory is that Wang has no money, and no investors. When the Lighthouse project was rejected by the Town of Hempstead, they came back with a plan for a project that was 25% of what Wang originally wanted. Where is Mr. Wang going to get a better offer than that? He most certainly can make money if he is able to develop 25% of 77 acres no?

I can't find it online anymore, I just looked but about a year ago a investment blog reported that Wang was being sued for over 1 Billion dollars in civil cases regarded Computer Assosciates and that he was losing money privately and his net worth wasn't nearly what it once was. To be fair, this columnist seemed to hate Wangs guts so I'm not sure how accurate it was. Either way, if the Town Of Hempstead was willing to let him develop 25% of what he wanted to develop, I ask this again. Where is he going to get a better option or offer?

Brooklyn is a stand alone building where he can't possibly make the same money and he would be what he is now, a tenant.

Thoughts?
- Isles316

You made some good points about Wang and Computer Associates (CA). I agree Wang is not as wealthy as people think. When I was on Wall Street I used to deal with Computer Associates. CA promised the world but never did anything for my department. They talked a big game but didn't deliver. Sound familiar?

I feel at the end of the day something will be worked out in the NY area. The NHL doesn't want the Islanders moving when Dallas and Phoenix sell about 50% of the arena out. I agree Brooklyn isn't the best long term option. but in the short term it will work. I think if we all go to the pre season game vs. the Devils and sell out the game it will speak volumes with the hockey press around the league.

The problem with the Nassau Coliseum is that there isn't public transportation. That is a big factor. If the Colisseum had public transportation the Islanders would be better off.

Quick story...For example, I've had Giants tickets for close to 30 years and while I don't like the new stadium the Giants/Jets got it. They put a trainline that stops right outside of the stadium. The train is packed.

You made some good points about Wang and Computer Associates (CA). I agree Wang is not as wealthy as people think. When I was on Wall Street I used to deal with Computer Associates. CA promised the world but never did anything for my department. They talked a big game but didn't deliver. Sound familiar?

I feel at the end of the day something will be worked out in the NY area. The NHL doesn't want the Islanders moving when Dallas and Phoenix sell about 50% of the arena out. I agree Brooklyn isn't the best long term option. but in the short term it will work. I think if we all go to the pre season game vs. the Devils and sell out the game it will speak volumes with the hockey press around the league.

The problem with the Nassau Coliseum is that there isn't public transportation. That is a big factor. If the Colisseum had public transportation the Islanders would be better off.

Quick story...For example, I've had Giants tickets for close to 30 years and while I don't like the new stadium the Giants/Jets got it. They put a trainline that stops right outside of the stadium. The train is packed.
- kear20

The Isles are the only team of the 9 NY teams (counting nets,devils) that don't have a new arena or have a new arena/stadium in the works. You are right, public transportation is huge. Think about rail link like an air tran sorta thing that can connect you to Hofstra,NCC and Coliseum. Makes too much sense.

I went to a Nets game last year at Izod Center and took the train. Only way to do it.

The Isles are the only team of the 9 NY teams (counting nets,devils) that don't have a new arena or have a new arena/stadium in the works. You are right, public transportation is huge. Think about rail link like an air tran sorta thing that can connect you to Hofstra,NCC and Coliseum. Makes too much sense.

I went to a Nets game last year at Izod Center and took the train. Only way to do it.
- Isles316

That's why I think having the arena in Nassau isn't the way to go. I bet if the Coliseum had a rail line, the Islanders would get 15% to 25% more people each game. They average 12,500, so add 20% if there was a public transportation and you are looking at averaging 15-16,000 fans...When it is all said and done, I think Willits Point is where they will wind up. It has everything Wang wants. He can develop the land, he gets a new arena (even though I would look in trying to take one of the tennis stadiums and but a roof over it and make modifications) and there is public transportation.

That's why I think having the arena in Nassau isn't the way to go. I bet if the Coliseum had a rail line, the Islanders would get 15% to 25% more people each game. They average 12,500, so add 20% if there was a public transportation and you are looking at averaging 15-16,000 fans...When it is all said and done, I think Willits Point is where they will wind up. It has everything Wang wants. He can develop the land, he gets a new arena (even though I would look in trying to take one of the tennis stadiums and but a roof over it and make modifications) and there is public transportation.
- kear20

I think that is probably the best place for them too. Haven't heard them talk about it though in over a year.

I think that is probably the best place for them too. Haven't heard them talk about it though in over a year.
- Isles316

For some reason Wang is being stubborn that he has to have the arena in Nassau. Even if he got to develop the land and built a new arena I really don't think the Islanders attendance would be that much better because if the Islanders were having a good season this season, attendance would be up.

For jack Johnson I would trade bailey, ko, grab or moulson. With moulson I would like prospect or pick in return as well. Yes I put bailey first since uguys think I'm obsessed with him

As for Montoya. How can u guys throw him under the bus. His stats were better then nabbys before getting hurt. Let me know how sharp u would be if your were no playing for 2 months then told ur starting right before the game. If u noticed Montoya looked alot better in 3rd.

Longer term Montoya still our guy.

For jack Johnson I would trade bailey, ko, grab or moulson. With moulson I would like prospect or pick in return as well. Yes I put bailey first since uguys think I'm obsessed with him

As for Montoya. How can u guys throw him under the bus. His stats were better then nabbys before getting hurt. Let me know how sharp u would be if your were no playing for 2 months then told ur starting right before the game. If u noticed Montoya looked alot better in 3rd.

Longer term Montoya still our guy.
- Spartiarti

Of all the guys you mention, I only one I wouldn't give up is Moulson. He is a 30 goal scorer and they are hard to find. Also, he is friends with the franchise JT. Johnson would fit well with the Islanders. In regard to goal I think Poulin is going to be the guy next year unless Nabokov signs. Montoya is a back up...

My theory is that Wang has no money, and no investors. When the Lighthouse project was rejected by the Town of Hempstead, they came back with a plan for a project that was 25% of what Wang originally wanted. Where is Mr. Wang going to get a better offer than that? He most certainly can make money if he is able to develop 25% of 77 acres no?

I can't find it online anymore, I just looked but about a year ago a investment blog reported that Wang was being sued for over 1 Billion dollars in civil cases regarded Computer Assosciates and that he was losing money privately and his net worth wasn't nearly what it once was. To be fair, this columnist seemed to hate Wangs guts so I'm not sure how accurate it was. Either way, if the Town Of Hempstead was willing to let him develop 25% of what he wanted to develop, I ask this again. Where is he going to get a better option or offer?

Brooklyn is a stand alone building where he can't possibly make the same money and he would be what he is now, a tenant.

Thoughts?
- Isles316

Way.
i mean WAY off base

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Way.
i mean WAY off base

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- XxNYIxX

What's your take then?

What's your take then?
- kear20

in a nut shell...

He's got money.. he has investors.. he has another lighthouse plan..

If he has to use HIS money.. he wants HIS dream, not what THEY want.
If THEY have a view of what should be there.. he wants THEM to pay for it.

Its pretty simple.

XxNYIxX

in a nut shell...

He's got money.. he has investors.. he has another lighthouse plan..

If he has to use HIS money.. he wants HIS dream, not what THEY want.
If THEY have a view of what should be there.. he wants THEM to pay for it.

Its pretty simple.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

I just don't think LI is the place to build. Without public transportation it's not going to work. If Wang was smart I would look into Queens. It seems the best option for everyone.

I just don't think LI is the place to build. Without public transportation it's not going to work. If Wang was smart I would look into Queens. It seems the best option for everyone.
- kear20

Why exactly wouldnt it work, its worked for over 40 years.

Would it be better with public transit?? Of course

But it comes down to being competitive.. they Ice a winning team... the Arena as it stands now would be packed.

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Why exactly wouldnt it work, its worked for over 40 years.

Would it be better with public transit?? Of course

But it comes down to being competitive.. they Ice a winning team... the Arena as it stands now would be packed.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

I agree if the team was a Stanly Cup contender we wouldn't be having this conversation. I don't think Nassau would work unless there is public transportation.

I agree if the team was a Stanly Cup contender we wouldn't be having this conversation. I don't think Nassau would work unless there is public transportation.
- kear20

again I ask,
Its worked for over 40 years, why wouldn't a NEW arena work with out Public Transit??

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again I ask,
Its worked for over 40 years, why wouldn't a NEW arena work with out Public Transit??

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- XxNYIxX

I know where you are going with this. If the Islanders were putting a better product on the ice, the Coliseum would be full. Don't know if it will ever happen unless there is new ownership and a new management team. Also, I don't think the Islanders are as popular as they were in the 80's but again it goes to the product that is put on the ice.

in a nut shell...

He's got money.. he has investors.. he has another lighthouse plan..

If he has to use HIS money.. he wants HIS dream, not what THEY want.
If THEY have a view of what should be there.. he wants THEM to pay for it.

Its pretty simple.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

You are spot on. Don't blame him either. If it my money I would do the same