Im honestly not interested in it. As good a player as Nash is, its not worth taking the risk not being able to sign our youth going forward.
- NYRPowerPlay

Yea I don't want anything to do with Nash. Much rather go after Parise if he hits the open market IMO.

Yea I don't want anything to do with Nash. Much rather go after Parise if he hits the open market IMO.
- adwolf130

Let me ask a slightly different question. If you could get Nash this year for say Dubinsky, Kreider and 1st round pick (only one player coming off of the active roster), do the Rangers increase their chances of winning the Cup this year by making that move?

I think they do. Tough call for me if that is the type of package that could get it done (although I don't think it would).

Let me ask a slightly different question. If you could get Nash this year for say Dubinsky, Kreider and 1st round pick (only one player coming off of the active roster), do the Rangers increase their chances of winning the Cup this year by making that move?

I think they do. Tough call for me if that is the type of package that could get it done (although I don't think it would).
- Pete V

They'll want DZ or Staal though I think.

Let me ask a slightly different question. If you could get Nash this year for say Dubinsky, Kreider and 1st round pick (only one player coming off of the active roster), do the Rangers increase their chances of winning the Cup this year by making that move?

I think they do. Tough call for me if that is the type of package that could get it done (although I don't think it would).
- Pete V

I actually still wouldn't do it. I know that's crazy to think that but just something in my gut is telling not to make a huge move like this.

I actually still wouldn't do it. I know that's crazy to think that but just something in my gut is telling not to make a huge move like this.
- adwolf130

Agreed, I don't want to pay that kind of cash until 2018.

Lol no it doesn't make any sense. Why would they trade Loui Eriksson for unproven commodities? Dubinsky isn't nearly as good as Eriksson. The same package it would take to get Nash would prob be the same to get Eriksson. I understand what you're saying with regards to them having a weak farm system but that doesn't mean that they should trade away arguably there best player to restock that farm system. To me that doesn't make any sense. Yes Dallas needs to rebuild but it doesn't have to come at the expense of Eriksson or Benn. Those 2 guys are central cogs of that team. I especially don't see them moving either one considering they just traded away Neal and lost Brad Richards to Free Agency. The 2 players I mentioned are guys you build around not TRADE AWAY!!!
- adwolf130

I am not saying this trade is on the verge of being finalized, just saying this guy is worth going after.

A player like Nash, although better, is way too expensive to take a shot at.

Yea I don't want anything to do with Nash. Much rather go after Parise if he hits the open market IMO.
- adwolf130

As good as Parise is, I am kind of done with ex-Devils taking a king's ransom to cross the river and disappear.

Let him go out west, although I think he stays with Jersey and signs long term over there.

I am not saying this trade is on the verge of being finalized, just saying this guy is worth going after.

A player like Nash, although better, is way too expensive to take a shot at.
- MidnightMarauder

Which is why Columbus wants to move Nash and Dallas wouldn't even consider listening to offers for Eriksson. The cap hit on Nash is ridiculous. If Nash was getting paid Loui Eriksson money he wouldn't be in trade talks.

Which is why Columbus wants to move Nash and Dallas wouldn't even consider listening to offers for Eriksson. The cap hit on Nash is ridiculous. If Nash was getting paid Loui Eriksson money he wouldn't be in trade talks.
- adwolf130

Nash wasn't in trade discussions until this past week and it has nothing to do with his contract. It's about a player, who has a lot of value and will bring the team a big return; his high salary has nothing to do with his availability.

The reason why he is rumored to get dealt is because the team is going nowhere and he is getting fed up with being on a perennial loser.

Nash wasn't in trade discussions until this past week and it has nothing to do with his contract. It's about a player, who has a lot of value and will bring the team a big return; his high salary has nothing to do with his availability.

The reason why he is rumored to get dealt is because the team is going nowhere and he is getting fed up with being on a perennial loser.
- MidnightMarauder

I give Nash credit though, at least he doesn't female dog about it like Carter is.

Nash wasn't in trade discussions until this past week and it has nothing to do with his contract. It's about a player, who has a lot of value and will bring the team a big return; his high salary has nothing to do with his availability.

The reason why he is rumored to get dealt is because the team is going nowhere and he is getting fed up with being on a perennial loser.
- MidnightMarauder

I disagree. Yes he is a great player but his contract has a lot to do with him being available. They have a lot of money tied up in a couple players and while it may not be the sole fact he is available it has a lot to do with it. Nash is the one player on that roster that will get them a kings ransom in return as well like you mentioned. Let's face it Carter isn't getting them anything significant in return. Both factors play into it.

I disagree. Yes he is a great player but his contract has a lot to do with him being available. They have a lot of money tied up in a couple players and while it may not be the sole fact he is available it has a lot to do with it. Nash is the one player on that roster that will get them a kings ransom in return as well like you mentioned. Let's face it Carter isn't getting them anything significant in return. Both factors play into it.
- adwolf130

He has a NTC in his contract, the only way he could become available is if he decided to let management know he wants to try to get moved out of town.

If he never went to management, expressing his desire to get dealt, he would remain as captain of the Blue Jackets for the entirety of his deal.

I give Nash credit though, at least he doesn't female dog about it like Carter is.
- TPC

He seems to have an unassuming personality, which lends to the respect he has shown the team throughout.

Carter is a bit of a loose cannon, as has been well discussed, no surprise he carried on about his unwillingness to tough it out with this team.

He has a NTC in his contract, the only way he could become available is if he decided to let management know he wants to try to get moved out of town.

If he never went to management, expressing his desire to get dealt, he would remain as captain of the Blue Jackets for the entirety of his deal.
- MidnightMarauder

Which plays into my view on the subject. Because he went to management and told them his desire to be traded I am sure Columbus would love to move his contract and get a really nice package in return. Let's face it Nash hasn't lived up to that contract. He has what 18 goals this season?

Which plays into my view on the subject. Because he went to management and told them his desire to be traded I am sure Columbus would love to move his contract and get a really nice package in return. Let's face it Nash hasn't lived up to that contract. He has what 18 goals this season?
- adwolf130

Well its kind of rough when no one around you has any inspiration to play.

Which plays into my view on the subject. Because he went to management and told them his desire to be traded I am sure Columbus would love to move his contract and get a really nice package in return. Let's face it Nash hasn't lived up to that contract. He has what 18 goals this season?
- adwolf130

But that first part of your second sentence is my point. He went to management, if he doesn't, bad year or not, he remains a Blue Jacket for however long he wants to.

He has been a great player, for a bad team, his whole career. This season is the exception for Nash, not the rule.

It makes little sense for the Rangers to take on his salary while giving up several key pieces to the core of the current and future Rangers teams.

They are going to need that money to hand out raises to players like Del Zotto, Stepan, McDonagh etc.

Now, for a team like the Kings, who have the cap space and are in dire need of scoring help, it makes sense. They are in a precarious position, standings-wise and are going to need some outside reinforcements to save Lombardi from being on the hotseat.

Sather doesn't have to make a move as badly as he does.

Andy Strickland reports that #Sabres G.Ryan Miller is willing to waive NTC for a move to the #Blackhawks.
- jimbro83

he would be nuts not too. Chicago, despite recent struggles, still has a very good core. very nice city and more games out west.

Why, when the Rangers don't play until Sunday? Biron should get the nod against CBJ and let Hank go against a team with a powerful offense.

The Hawks are in a terrible slump but they can easily hang five on Biron tonight.
- MidnightMarauder

helping Hank out for the vezina? possible shutout on Sunday yo

he would be nuts not too. Chicago, despite recent struggles, still has a very good core. very nice city and more games out west.
- bonzo11

It's a good trade for both teams. Miller gets a new start and Kane comes home.

It still falls into the category of speculation but I could really see that happen before Feb 27th's deadline

It's a good trade for both teams. Miller gets a new start and Kane comes home.

It still falls into the category of speculation but I could really see that happen before Feb 27th's deadline
- MidnightMarauder

That trade does make some sense. And while I haven't followed the Sabres too closely this year, it seems like Enroth is not a bad fall back option for the Sabres in net. I may be off on that one, however.

helping Hank out for the vezina? possible shutout on Sunday yo
- bonzo11

He doesn't need any help this season. He is in a vintage Hasek type of zone.

That trade does make some sense. And while I haven't followed the Sabres too closely this year, it seems like Enroth is not a bad fall back option for the Sabres in net. I may be off on that one, however.
- Pete V

Miller, Stafford and a pick/prospect for Kane and Crawford?

He doesn't need any help this season. He is in a vintage Hasek type of zone.
- MidnightMarauder

true that. Im surprised by biron starting tonight as well. thought he would play Sunday and next Saturday vs Buffalo.

He doesn't need any help this season. He is in a vintage Hasek type of zone.
- MidnightMarauder

Maybe this vintage Hasek type of zone is due to the fact that hes actually getting some rest in between games, and is fresh for the games.

Maybe this vintage Hasek type of zone is due to the fact that hes actually getting some rest in between games, and is fresh for the games.
- NYRPowerPlay

I don't think its a coincidence that he is having his best year since not having to start every night. Anybody listening to francesa? all rangers talk