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Goligoski is young as well.
Fact of the matter is Pens used the fact that Neal was slumping to their advantage and managed to flip a young PP quarterback for a young scoring power forward. Niskanen isnt that good IMO, he was added to get someone to fill a D spot.
Loui wont be slumping, and no team will fleece him from the Stars. - NYRPowerPlay
Niskanen is having a decent season in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh took advantage of a bad GM.
Nieuwendyk is an under average hockey executive and Sather has done really well in the trade department over the years. |
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It's not screwing up if you get some assets in return. Maybe Dallas wants more grit in the lineup, we don't know what Nieuwendyk is thinking.
I think it's a bit of a longshot, especially since there has been no serious buzz about Eriksson getting dealt to any team.
But to think that Nieuwendyk won't pull the trigger on any sort of deal is being a little short sighted.
What if the Rangers throw in McIlrath, to go along with Dubinsky and a first?
Dallas has a pretty poor blueline and to get three assets for a very good but not great player is a good deal.
The Rangers can afford to part with McIlrath considering the depth on the big club and Tim Erixon still waiting in the wings. - MidnightMarauder
I think they might want Erixon instead, I dont think theyll want to wait for him to develop, where as Erixon is pretty much ready to go.
But I just cant see Nieuwendyk doing this. |
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It's not screwing up if you get some assets in return. Maybe Dallas wants more grit in the lineup, we don't know what Nieuwendyk is thinking.
I think it's a bit of a longshot, especially since there has been no serious buzz about Eriksson getting dealt to any team.
But to think that Nieuwendyk won't pull the trigger on any sort of deal is being a little short sighted.
What if the Rangers throw in McIlrath, to go along with Dubinsky and a first?
Dallas has a pretty poor blueline and to get three assets for a very good but not great player is a good deal.
The Rangers can afford to part with McIlrath considering the depth on the big club and Tim Erixon still waiting in the wings. - MidnightMarauder
Don't get me wrong I am not saying Neuwendky won't make a move. I just don't think it will happen before the TDL. If he is going to move a huge part like Erickson, I believe he would want to see all his options. Not just potential buyers this year. So I seem him waiting for the offseason. |
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I think they might want Erixon instead, I dont think theyll want to wait for him to develop, where as Erixon is pretty much ready to go.
But I just cant see Nieuwendyk doing this. - NYRPowerPlay
Probably not but this is the guy for the Rangers. Nash is going to cripple the Rangers cap, which isn't an ideal scenario.
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I think they might want Erixon instead, I dont think theyll want to wait for him to develop, where as Erixon is pretty much ready to go.
But I just cant see Nieuwendyk doing this. - NYRPowerPlay
I don't see a lot of teams having interest in Erixon. After the stunt he pulled to come to New York, some teams might be scared off a bit.
Plus wasn't it reported Dallas was trying to trade up to get McIlrath in the draft? I think they still view him very highly. |
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Probably not but this is the guy for the Rangers. Nash is going to cripple the Rangers cap, which isn't an ideal scenario. - MidnightMarauder
Worst case, we would have to work around it for 4 years... Sather would have to use his mouth for more than just smoking that black pole and try to convince the kids to take arbitration salary until they can restructure Nash's contract when it expires. |
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Its a difficult call, on one hand making changes with rosters and dealing away an asset has all of us Rangers fans in that old Rangers mindset of mortgaging too much of our future for a now run. I have never seen a Rangers team with this much chemisrty and that includes the 94 team so if a move is made then naturally it has to be at a minimum cost HOWEVER....we are talking about this teams future as if they are destined to have another season or multoiple seasons like this in the future and we all know nothing is guartanteed, who is to say that this isn't our best chance to win a cup so it is a tough spot. I almost don't want to do anything, see how we perform in the playoffs and go from there. To extend the point, assets are what they are...assets, you keep some and you use some to bring in other pieces so we do have to be careful about wanting to keep everyone and at some point we have to deal with the possibility of dealing a Kreider or a McIlrath etc. Do I do that for Nash along with a roster player or two. No! If Bobby Ryan suddenly comes back as a possibility or an Ericsson then you would clearly have to think about it...then again there are young players who we want to keep who are going to have to get paid too...Jan is right, we will complain if they do nothing or not enough and we will complain if they do too much depending upon how deep the playoff run is...I don't kow if I made any sense but I tried |
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I don't see a lot of teams having interest in Erixon. After the stunt he pulled to come to New York, some teams might be scared off a bit.
Plus wasn't it reported Dallas was trying to trade up to get McIlrath in the draft? I think they still view him very highly. - TPC
They did want him, maybe this was Sathers plan all along... to draft McIlrath and dangle him in front of the Stars GM to pry someone away.
Id 1 up the deal and add Thomas or Bourque to Dubi, McIlrath and a 1st if that gets Loui to NY. |
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So Darren Dreger is reporting today that the Blue Jackets would want Del Zotto in a trade for Nash as part of the package.
I say no thanks, and good day sir |
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I don't see a lot of teams having interest in Erixon. After the stunt he pulled to come to New York, some teams might be scared off a bit.
Plus wasn't it reported Dallas was trying to trade up to get McIlrath in the draft? I think they still view him very highly. - TPC
If I remember correctly, Dallas drafted the pick after the Rangers that year, and intended to take McIlrath with the 11th pick if the Rangers didn't take him. |
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So Darren Dreger is reporting today that the Blue Jackets would want Del Zotto in a trade for Nash as part of the package.
I say no thanks, and good day sir - TPC
Keep it real, Howson!
Hell no, go fleece the desperate Kings for Nash. The Rangers aren't in a position where they need to drastically overpay, for the services of anyone really.
They are the top team in the league; breaking up the nucleus of this team would be foolish. |
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So Darren Dreger is reporting today that the Blue Jackets would want Del Zotto in a trade for Nash as part of the package.
I say no thanks, and good day sir - TPC
I agree with that one, say no thanks and blow a puff of cigar smoke at them... |
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So Darren Dreger is reporting today that the Blue Jackets would want Del Zotto in a trade for Nash as part of the package.
I say no thanks, and good day sir - TPC
No thanks indeed. Kid is having a great year, that +/- is spectacular. |
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Keep it real, Howson!
Hell no, go fleece the desperate Kings for Nash. The Rangers aren't in a position where they need to drastically overpay, for the services of anyone really.
They are the top team in the league; breaking up the nucleus of this team would be foolish. - MidnightMarauder
Especially given the fact that whomever acquires him has to pay that ridiculous contract... |
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Keep it real, Howson!
Hell no, go fleece the desperate Kings for Nash. The Rangers aren't in a position where they need to drastically overpay, for the services of anyone really.
They are the top team in the league; breaking up the nucleus of this team would be foolish. - MidnightMarauder
Kings would proabably be desperate enough to deal Jack Johnson to CBJ. |
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Keep it real, Howson!
Hell no, go fleece the desperate Kings for Nash. The Rangers aren't in a position where they need to drastically overpay, for the services of anyone really.
They are the top team in the league; breaking up the nucleus of this team would be foolish. - MidnightMarauder
He also said the Rangers are waiting to see if Howson's demands drop. So I have faith Sather won't do something dumb. |
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If I remember correctly, Dallas drafted the pick after the Rangers that year, and intended to take McIlrath with the 11th pick if the Rangers didn't take him. - Pete V
You remembered correctly and this is why I threw in McIlrath in my proposed deal for Eriksson.
Since Dallas will probably miss the playoffs(again) why wouldn't they want to try and re-stock the cupboard a little bit?
I know Eriksson is young and a very good player for Dallas but a 3-for-1 deal is something any GM would consider.
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You remembered correctly and this is why I threw in McIlrath in my proposed deal for Eriksson.
Since Dallas will probably miss the playoffs(again) why wouldn't they want to try and re-stock the cupboard a little bit?
I know Eriksson is young and a very good player for Dallas but a 3-for-1 deal is something any GM would consider. - MidnightMarauder
How would you feel about throwing in Thomas or Bourque in the deal as I mentioned before? |
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How would you feel about throwing in Thomas or Bourque in the deal as I mentioned before? - NYRPowerPlay
I have no issue with those 2 at all
Like I have said tons of times on here I only have 2 true untouchables when it comes to prospects.
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He also said the Rangers are waiting to see if Howson's demands drop. So I have faith Sather won't do something dumb. - TPC
I would also think Torts has a great deal of input and I cannot for the life of me envision Torts being on board with something like that... |
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So Darren Dreger is reporting today that the Blue Jackets would want Del Zotto in a trade for Nash as part of the package.
I say no thanks, and good day sir - TPC
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He also said the Rangers are waiting to see if Howson's demands drop. So I have faith Sather won't do something dumb. - TPC
Sather's had his bumps in the road, as GM and President of the New York Rangers, but he is one of the better excutives in the game when it comes to trades.
Slats doesn't have to trade for Nash to compete for the Stanley Cup and he knows that. Howson doesn't have many teams to negotiate with either, as Nash apparently has a very small list of teams he would agree to get traded to.
This falls in favor of the Rangers as well because now Howson can't come back with other teams offering substantially better packages for Nash.
Apprently only LA is in this two horse race for Nash's services.
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How would you feel about throwing in Thomas or Bourque in the deal as I mentioned before? - NYRPowerPlay
does Bourque have any trade value?
he has shown nothing in his first pro season, if it wasn't for his name he wouldn't even be mentioned ever.
I am a little suprised because I thought he was the best player in Traverse City along with Erixon. |
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- jimbro83
haha this is exactly what I was thinking about when I typed that |
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You remembered correctly and this is why I threw in McIlrath in my proposed deal for Eriksson.
Since Dallas will probably miss the playoffs(again) why wouldn't they want to try and re-stock the cupboard a little bit?
I know Eriksson is young and a very good player for Dallas but a 3-for-1 deal is something any GM would consider. - MidnightMarauder
MM no way buddy. Eriksson is not leaving Dallas. Like Pete and others have said he is a big piece there who is young and signed to a very reasonable price long term. There is no way in hell they move him. 2 players on Dallas that they wouldn't think of moving and that is Jamie Benn, and Eriksson. I know you want to dream of something like this happening but there is no way.
I could see guys like Morrow, Ryder, or even a guy like Ribiero being moved but not Loui Eriksson. |
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