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kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:36 AM ET
For those of you who dont have newsday access. The way I interpret the below is that Nassau is saying to Wang "We will work with you to develop a scaled down version of the Lighthouse and maybe get some NY State funding. " Hopefully they can work something out but in my opinion, fluck Nassau and heavily consider one of the other three options he has locally; Brooklyn, Queens, Soffolk (Suffolk being my last choice).

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Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano has offered Islanders owner Charles Wang an exclusive period to come up with a privately financed plan to redevelop the 77-acre Nassau Hub before the county seeks other options for the site.

"I look forward to receiving a privately financed plan for a new Coliseum from the New York Islanders," Mangano said.

In the absence of such a plan, "we will have no choice but to go in a different direction," said Deputy County Executive Rob Walker.

Islanders senior vice president Michael Picker told a county legislative committee Tuesday that he hopes the county and the team can develop a plan for a new arena funded with public and private money.

But Picker said in an interview that if the county were to put the site out for public bidding, Wang likely would not participate. "We would have to evaluate it, but I don't think so," Picker said in an interview.

Wang has said the Islanders won't play at the Coliseum past 2015, when the team's lease with Nassau expires.

Picker said the team is exploring several options for relocating the team but declined to be specific. Officials in Suffolk, Queens and Brooklyn, where the Islanders will play a preseason game in October, have expressed interest. "We are exploring many options and looking at many different arenas," Picker told Newsday.

A quartet of Nassau's largest developers announced last week that they would offer a joint proposal to redevelop the Hub, with or without the team.

Mangano has said he will release a new vision for the Hub after meeting in the next few weeks with Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo. The latest moves toward a new Coliseum and a redevelopment plan for the area come after several failed efforts.

Wang was the winning bidder on the privately financed Lighthouse Project, a mixed commercial and residential proposal for the Hub area in central Nassau that failed to garner enough community support.

Voters in August rejected a publicly financed arena to replace the Coliseum.

County and Islanders officials told the Economic and Community Development and Labor Committee that they are considering an arena financed by private and public dollars, including state, federal and potentially county funds.

But Picker said the priority must be on deciding the fate of the Islanders and protecting the 2,300 jobs dependent on activity at the Coliseum.

Team and county officials agree that a decision on the Coliseum must be made quickly, given the upcoming expiration of the Islanders' lease.

Walker said the county must have shovels in the ground before the end of the year. The county, he said, would be willing to sign a one-year lease extension with the Islanders if the sides need additional time to hammer out the details.

Kevin Law, a co-chair of the Economic Development Council, told the hearing Tuesday that a deal can't be struck without compromise by all.

- NewYawkIslandez


This once again pretty much tells me one way or another the Islanders are not going to leave Long Island or New York. Something will get done is either Suffolk, Nassau Queens, or Brooklyn.

Thanks for the update
NewYawkIslandez
New York Islanders
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 15 @ 10:44 AM ET
This once again pretty much tells me one way or another the Islanders are not going to leave Long Island or New York. Something will get done is either Suffolk, Nassau Queens, or Brooklyn.

Thanks for the update

- kasperrko

No doubt in my mind they will be local...not a single doubt
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 15 @ 11:12 AM ET
No doubt in my mind they will be local...not a single doubt
- NewYawkIslandez


Where do u live?
rob_one_six
New York Islanders
Location: Providence, RI
Joined: 12.07.2007

Feb 15 @ 11:13 AM ET
This comment tends to do with the first few pages of this thread (I couldn't stomach reading them all) but is also about any Isles thread in general. So many supposed Islander fans do nothing but whine, complain, b!tch, moan, and lambast Wang, Snow, Capuano, Goring, Nassau, and 1/2 of the players (not to mention past players and GMs, which I might add is beyond ridiculous). To those people who do that and then complain about free agents not wanting to sign on LI/the team being seen as a joke around the league, it is important to realize that you are also a cause of the very problem you complain about. If you don't realize other fans, players, media, etc. read what is written by Islanders fans and have a good laugh then you need start to. And don't use the excuse you pay money for tickets so you have the right to complain, it is your own fault for buying them in the first place. If you go to a restaurant and have a sh!tty meal, you don't keep going back to the same restaurant over and over, continually ordering meals that are continually sh!tty, just so you can complain. Lastly, sorry to the fans that don't do this, it was just a commentary on a chunk of the fan base that make the rest of us look like fools. That is all. Go Islanders!
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 15 @ 11:15 AM ET
Still looking for 2 more players to play as the Dallas Stars and Minnesota Wild in my EA Sports NHL12 League for Xbox. Anyone interested?
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Feb 15 @ 11:23 AM ET
This comment tends to do with the first few pages of this thread (I couldn't stomach reading them all) but is also about any Isles thread in general. So many supposed Islander fans do nothing but whine, complain, b!tch, moan, and lambast Wang, Snow, Capuano, Goring, Nassau, and 1/2 of the players (not to mention past players and GMs, which I might add is beyond ridiculous). To those people who do that and then complain about free agents not wanting to sign on LI/the team being seen as a joke around the league, it is important to realize that you are also a cause of the very problem you complain about. If you don't realize other fans, players, media, etc. read what is written by Islanders fans and have a good laugh then you need start to. And don't use the excuse you pay money for tickets so you have the right to complain, it is your own fault for buying them in the first place. If you go to a restaurant and have a sh!tty meal, you don't keep going back to the same restaurant over and over, continually ordering meals that are continually sh!tty, just so you can complain. Lastly, sorry to the fans that don't do this, it was just a commentary on a chunk of the fan base that make the rest of us look like fools. That is all. Go Islanders!
- rob_one_six



sorry i didn't see you up there on your high horse...every fan base has stupid fans..don't come in here and lecture me...i am fair..i have opinions..and if you read these threads i don't say anything that i wouldn't say to the actual players face...but don't say...Paul Martin won't sign here because he reads this thread and people are mean..i call bull poop
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Feb 15 @ 11:36 AM ET
sorry i didn't see you up there on your high horse...every fan base has stupid fans..don't come in here and lecture me...i am fair..i have opinions..and if you read these threads i don't say anything that i wouldn't say to the actual players face...but don't say...Paul Martin won't sign here because he reads this thread and people are mean..i call bull poop
- NYI78



Who's Paul Martin... and what does he have to do with this...

rob_one_six
New York Islanders
Location: Providence, RI
Joined: 12.07.2007

Feb 15 @ 11:40 AM ET
sorry i didn't see you up there on your high horse...every fan base has stupid fans..don't come in here and lecture me...i am fair..i have opinions..and if you read these threads i don't say anything that i wouldn't say to the actual players face...but don't say...Paul Martin won't sign here because he reads this thread and people are mean..i call bull poop
- NYI78


A) I am just as passionate about the Islanders as most other Islander fans are (as I'm sure you are) and I am equally frustrated that progress for them seems to take extra long...and has bizarre obstacles.
B) I didn't call you out. I made a general comment about a minority of the fan base.
C) I never said anyone was being mean, my point was more that they are being ridiculous and embarrassing, especially in regards to themselves.
D) Just like you, I am entitled to my opinion and the option to post it.
E) Sorry you felt singled out.
F) I don't think I am on a high horse just because I articulate my point and proofread it before I post it.
Lastly G) if someone doesn't like player X, then say it and drop. People just go on and on about the same thing.
rob_one_six
New York Islanders
Location: Providence, RI
Joined: 12.07.2007

Feb 15 @ 11:41 AM ET
Who's Paul Martin... and what does he have to do with this...
- jimmc7722


Thank you!! That was gonna be my (H). haha...
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Feb 15 @ 11:42 AM ET
A) I am just as passionate about the Islanders as most other Islander fans are (as I'm sure you are) and I am equally frustrated that progress for them seems to take extra long...and has bizarre obstacles.
B) I didn't call you out. I made a general comment about a minority of the fan base.
C) I never said anyone was being mean, my point was more that they are being ridiculous and embarrassing, especially in regards to themselves.
D) Just like you, I am entitled to my opinion and the option to post it.
E) Sorry you felt singled out.
F) I don't think I am on a high horse just because I articulate my point and proofread it before I post it.
Lastly G) if someone doesn't like player X, then say it and drop. People just go on and on about the same thing.

- rob_one_six



We need a new blog...
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Feb 15 @ 11:45 AM ET
This comment tends to do with the first few pages of this thread (I couldn't stomach reading them all) but is also about any Isles thread in general. So many supposed Islander fans do nothing but whine, complain, b!tch, moan, and lambast Wang, Snow, Capuano, Goring, Nassau, and 1/2 of the players (not to mention past players and GMs, which I might add is beyond ridiculous). To those people who do that and then complain about free agents not wanting to sign on LI/the team being seen as a joke around the league, it is important to realize that you are also a cause of the very problem you complain about. If you don't realize other fans, players, media, etc. read what is written by Islanders fans and have a good laugh then you need start to. And don't use the excuse you pay money for tickets so you have the right to complain, it is your own fault for buying them in the first place. If you go to a restaurant and have a sh!tty meal, you don't keep going back to the same restaurant over and over, continually ordering meals that are continually sh!tty, just so you can complain. Lastly, sorry to the fans that don't do this, it was just a commentary on a chunk of the fan base that make the rest of us look like fools. That is all. Go Islanders!
- rob_one_six


Yes, I'm sure the Islander brass and players take time out of their days to log on to HB.com and read these comments. How silly of me to forget this.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Feb 15 @ 11:45 AM ET
A) I am just as passionate about the Islanders as most other Islander fans are (as I'm sure you are) and I am equally frustrated that progress for them seems to take extra long...and has bizarre obstacles.
B) I didn't call you out. I made a general comment about a minority of the fan base.
C) I never said anyone was being mean, my point was more that they are being ridiculous and embarrassing, especially in regards to themselves.
D) Just like you, I am entitled to my opinion and the option to post it.
E) Sorry you felt singled out.
F) I don't think I am on a high horse just because I articulate my point and proofread it before I post it.
Lastly G) if someone doesn't like player X, then say it and drop. People just go on and on about the same thing.

- rob_one_six



my point is this is the internet...if you get offended by every comment on here you'll go mad...if you notice when this board is insane i don't post..
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 15 @ 11:54 AM ET
This comment tends to do with the first few pages of this thread (I couldn't stomach reading them all) but is also about any Isles thread in general. So many supposed Islander fans do nothing but whine, complain, b!tch, moan, and lambast Wang, Snow, Capuano, Goring, Nassau, and 1/2 of the players (not to mention past players and GMs, which I might add is beyond ridiculous). To those people who do that and then complain about free agents not wanting to sign on LI/the team being seen as a joke around the league, it is important to realize that you are also a cause of the very problem you complain about. If you don't realize other fans, players, media, etc. read what is written by Islanders fans and have a good laugh then you need start to. And don't use the excuse you pay money for tickets so you have the right to complain, it is your own fault for buying them in the first place. If you go to a restaurant and have a sh!tty meal, you don't keep going back to the same restaurant over and over, continually ordering meals that are continually sh!tty, just so you can complain. Lastly, sorry to the fans that don't do this, it was just a commentary on a chunk of the fan base that make the rest of us look like fools. That is all. Go Islanders!
- rob_one_six


If only we think happy thoughts on HockeyBuzz, then all the great players in the league would sign here, the media would write great stories about the Isles, and all the politicians would join hands and get a building built?
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
A) I am just as passionate about the Islanders as most other Islander fans are (as I'm sure you are) and I am equally frustrated that progress for them seems to take extra long...and has bizarre obstacles.
B) I didn't call you out. I made a general comment about a minority of the fan base.
C) I never said anyone was being mean, my point was more that they are being ridiculous and embarrassing, especially in regards to themselves.
D) Just like you, I am entitled to my opinion and the option to post it.
E) Sorry you felt singled out.
F) I don't think I am on a high horse just because I articulate my point and proofread it before I post it.
Lastly G) if someone doesn't like player X, then say it and drop. People just go on and on about the same thing.

- rob_one_six


LEt me help you on your theory Robbie. DP sucks JAck Capuano Sucks Charles Wang Sucks GArth Snow sucks Rolston sucks REasoner sucks. Good day sir
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 15 @ 12:01 PM ET
Yes, I'm sure the Islander brass and players take time out of their days to log on to HB.com and read these comments. How silly of me to forget this.
- BringBackBalky


Yeah I can see Parise coming on here and being like "Did Balky just write that about the Islanders?? Forget there is no way I am signing there"
rob_one_six
New York Islanders
Location: Providence, RI
Joined: 12.07.2007

Feb 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
my point is this is the internet...if you get offended by every comment on here you'll go mad...if you notice when this board is insane i don't post..
- NYI78


I don't get offended at all. Sorry everyone is reacting so defensively/sarcastically to what i said. We get it...Rolston is useless, Pandolfo does not have much use, Marty Reasoner is having a complete dud of a season (although it should have been a good signing, on paper he was an ideal 4th line center who could fill in on 3rd). But what's with all the Garth bashing? He is locking up all our strong players (JT, FN, MM, KO, and I'm somewhat confident PAP will too), he got us a goalie who's having a killer season for free (and signed cheap), not to mention MM and PAP were free, and the system is nicely stocked. We don't know the budget he is operating under and you can't blame Wang if he is keeping the budget frugal because he's losing hundreds of millions of dollars so far. I think they at least deserve a fair grade for growing the team (albeit slowly) into a contender with what they have.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Feb 15 @ 12:12 PM ET
Yeah I can see Parise coming on here and being like "Did Balky just write that about the Islanders?? Forget there is no way I am signing there"
- kasperrko


ahahahaha
rob_one_six
New York Islanders
Location: Providence, RI
Joined: 12.07.2007

Feb 15 @ 12:15 PM ET
LEt me help you on your theory Robbie. DP sucks JAck Capuano Sucks Charles Wang Sucks GArth Snow sucks Rolston sucks REasoner sucks. Good day sir
- kasperrko


I've been watching the Islanders critically for 15 years (and 10 years before that). I don't need help with my theory, I appreciate the thought though.
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Feb 15 @ 12:17 PM ET
For those of you who dont have newsday access. The way I interpret the below is that Nassau is saying to Wang "We will work with you to develop a scaled down version of the Lighthouse and maybe get some NY State funding. " Hopefully they can work something out but in my opinion, fluck Nassau and heavily consider one of the other three options he has locally; Brooklyn, Queens, Soffolk (Suffolk being my last choice).

----------

Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano has offered Islanders owner Charles Wang an exclusive period to come up with a privately financed plan to redevelop the 77-acre Nassau Hub before the county seeks other options for the site.

"I look forward to receiving a privately financed plan for a new Coliseum from the New York Islanders," Mangano said.

In the absence of such a plan, "we will have no choice but to go in a different direction," said Deputy County Executive Rob Walker.

Islanders senior vice president Michael Picker told a county legislative committee Tuesday that he hopes the county and the team can develop a plan for a new arena funded with public and private money.

But Picker said in an interview that if the county were to put the site out for public bidding, Wang likely would not participate. "We would have to evaluate it, but I don't think so," Picker said in an interview.

Wang has said the Islanders won't play at the Coliseum past 2015, when the team's lease with Nassau expires.

Picker said the team is exploring several options for relocating the team but declined to be specific. Officials in Suffolk, Queens and Brooklyn, where the Islanders will play a preseason game in October, have expressed interest. "We are exploring many options and looking at many different arenas," Picker told Newsday.

A quartet of Nassau's largest developers announced last week that they would offer a joint proposal to redevelop the Hub, with or without the team.

Mangano has said he will release a new vision for the Hub after meeting in the next few weeks with Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo. The latest moves toward a new Coliseum and a redevelopment plan for the area come after several failed efforts.

Wang was the winning bidder on the privately financed Lighthouse Project, a mixed commercial and residential proposal for the Hub area in central Nassau that failed to garner enough community support.

Voters in August rejected a publicly financed arena to replace the Coliseum.

County and Islanders officials told the Economic and Community Development and Labor Committee that they are considering an arena financed by private and public dollars, including state, federal and potentially county funds.

But Picker said the priority must be on deciding the fate of the Islanders and protecting the 2,300 jobs dependent on activity at the Coliseum.

Team and county officials agree that a decision on the Coliseum must be made quickly, given the upcoming expiration of the Islanders' lease.

Walker said the county must have shovels in the ground before the end of the year. The county, he said, would be willing to sign a one-year lease extension with the Islanders if the sides need additional time to hammer out the details.

Kevin Law, a co-chair of the Economic Development Council, told the hearing Tuesday that a deal can't be struck without compromise by all.

- NewYawkIslandez


Wouldn't the scaled down lighthouse be wangs best delpal available?
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Feb 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
Yeah I can see Parise coming on here and being like "Did Balky just write that about the Islanders?? Forget there is no way I am signing there"
- kasperrko



This guy doesn't like his own family... never mind anybody else.

Plus he's a Penguins fan... his opinion does not count!!!!

Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Feb 15 @ 12:23 PM ET
Wouldn't the scaled down lighthouse be wangs best delpal available?
- Isles316


Edit, best option available
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Feb 15 @ 12:26 PM ET
This comment tends to do with the first few pages of this thread (I couldn't stomach reading them all) but is also about any Isles thread in general. So many supposed Islander fans do nothing but whine, complain, b!tch, moan, and lambast Wang, Snow, Capuano, Goring, Nassau, and 1/2 of the players (not to mention past players and GMs, which I might add is beyond ridiculous). To those people who do that and then complain about free agents not wanting to sign on LI/the team being seen as a joke around the league, it is important to realize that you are also a cause of the very problem you complain about. If you don't realize other fans, players, media, etc. read what is written by Islanders fans and have a good laugh then you need start to. And don't use the excuse you pay money for tickets so you have the right to complain, it is your own fault for buying them in the first place. If you go to a restaurant and have a sh!tty meal, you don't keep going back to the same restaurant over and over, continually ordering meals that are continually sh!tty, just so you can complain. Lastly, sorry to the fans that don't do this, it was just a commentary on a chunk of the fan base that make the rest of us look like fools. That is all. Go Islanders!
- rob_one_six



I respectfully disagree with you. If you want to throw some blame at the media for partially creating a bad reputation then fine. I would agree with that. But to say comments like these aren't on other teams blogs is just silly.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Feb 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
This comment tends to do with the first few pages of this thread (I couldn't stomach reading them all) but is also about any Isles thread in general. So many supposed Islander fans do nothing but whine, complain, b!tch, moan, and lambast Wang, Snow, Capuano, Goring, Nassau, and 1/2 of the players (not to mention past players and GMs, which I might add is beyond ridiculous). To those people who do that and then complain about free agents not wanting to sign on LI/the team being seen as a joke around the league, it is important to realize that you are also a cause of the very problem you complain about. If you don't realize other fans, players, media, etc. read what is written by Islanders fans and have a good laugh then you need start to. And don't use the excuse you pay money for tickets so you have the right to complain, it is your own fault for buying them in the first place. If you go to a restaurant and have a sh!tty meal, you don't keep going back to the same restaurant over and over, continually ordering meals that are continually sh!tty, just so you can complain. Lastly, sorry to the fans that don't do this, it was just a commentary on a chunk of the fan base that make the rest of us look like fools. That is all. Go Islanders!
- rob_one_six




what a (frank)ing lame post
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 15 @ 12:31 PM ET
This guy doesn't like his own family... never mind anybody else.

Plus he's a Penguins fan... his opinion does not count!!!!


- jimmc7722


Woah wait a second my own family!! Dude really??

My opinion counts just as much as some guy who lives in Toronto and who does not live here on the Island where the Islanders actually play. So thanks for playing bud
rob_one_six
New York Islanders
Location: Providence, RI
Joined: 12.07.2007

Feb 15 @ 12:33 PM ET
I respectfully disagree with you. If you want to throw some blame at the media for partially creating a bad reputation then fine. I would agree with that. But to say comments like these aren't on other teams blogs is just silly.
- Isles316


I never said they weren't. But for a team that already has bad publicity for other reasons and has a smaller fan base then many others, it has a magnified effect.
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