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HarvP
Colorado Avalanche
Location: CT
Joined: 07.01.2011

Feb 14 @ 6:00 PM ET
As much as I'd like us to keep Jones how about Jones/Quincey for JVR. I'd rather a straight Quincey JVR swap. Its about time we got the good end of a deal and the Flyers got the bad end on a trade.
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Feb 14 @ 6:05 PM ET
Good points my friend ....but AK46 on 2nd line instead of Landy?? Really? Have you seen AK playing on a regular basis? I did...and I'd take Landeskog over AK laziness any day of the week. O'reilly will surpass Statsny next year as best 2-way player so do you really want a 6,6M 3rd line center?
- Dekker


Its a small sample but Stastny is back to near a PPG pace since the new year. I am not so sure O'Reilly will pass him in production if Stastny continues to play with effective wingers. The only reason I use those lines is to show defensive responsibility. You know as well as I do that they are not going to split up Landeskog and O'Reilly unless everything else is tried first.

Sacco has tried everything this year and still has not split them up. I have herd a lot of mixed comments when it comes to AK46 as well. A lot of people seem to like the fact that he actually hits and seems to use his size. If AK46 does have some untapped skill Duchene or Stastny are the perfect centers to bring it out. Speed and play making.

If AK46 can actually play a physical game but does not put up huge points he might actually slot in next to O'Reilly and Landy just as easily. You just can't go wrong even if his point production does not improve much. Fact is we need at least one if not two top 9 preferably top 6 wingers.

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As much as I'd like us to keep Jones how about Jones/Quincey for JVR. I'd rather a straight Quincey JVR swap. Its about time we got the good end of a deal and the Flyers got the bad end on a trade.
- HarvP


I would love that but Flyers fans don't see Quincey as an upgrade in their top 4. If JVR was healthy I would do it.. Don't think Flyers would..
buffntuff
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 11.09.2007

Feb 14 @ 6:16 PM ET
Nash and Vermette to Co for stastny jones barrie and a pick

Plz Plz Plz

- Meeqsb


Stastny for Nash makes a lot of sense right now. It would help out both teams.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 14 @ 6:49 PM ET
As much as I'd like us to keep Jones how about Jones/Quincey for JVR. I'd rather a straight Quincey JVR swap. Its about time we got the good end of a deal and the Flyers got the bad end on a trade.
- HarvP


I wouldn't want to trade for a player until I am SURE his concussion symptoms are gone.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 14 @ 6:50 PM ET
Stastny for Nash makes a lot of sense right now. It would help out both teams.
- buffntuff


There is no way the Avs get Nash because CBJ is looking for Young roster players to build the deal around, which the avs aren't really offering right now.

Word is 3 or 4 solid prospects or roster players ATM.

My bet is either the Rangers or the Leafs. Not so sure about LA though
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Feb 14 @ 7:05 PM ET
There is no way the Avs get Nash because CBJ is looking for Young roster players to build the deal around, which the avs aren't really offering right now.

Word is 3 or 4 solid prospects or roster players ATM.

My bet is either the Rangers or the Leafs. Not so sure about LA though

- Meeqsb


What you don't think they will take.. Quincey + Elliott + 2 goalie prospects? That is 4 pieces?!? Fits needs.. Goalie/D prospects.. I wish..
Institute69
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Fort St John , BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 14 @ 7:35 PM ET
how bout Stastny, Quincey, Pickard/Aittokallio maybe throw in a second from pick for Nash and Nikitin?
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 14 @ 7:50 PM ET
Nash is at the age where he doesn't line up with a rebuild and he has a cap hit of 7.8 million until 2018-19 season. For that money just get Parise.

The avs won't get nash because it just doesn't make sense and any pieces we that we could give they could get better from another club.

Fun thought but in the end reality prevails.
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Feb 14 @ 7:57 PM ET
Nash is at the age where he doesn't line up with a rebuild and he has a cap hit of 7.8 million until 2018-19 season. For that money just get Parise.

The avs won't get nash because it just doesn't make sense and any pieces we that we could give they could get better from another club.

Fun thought but in the end reality prevails.

- Meeqsb


This.. Especially the Parise part..

Only way I would do it is if we did not have to give up part of our current core. Landy, O'Reilly, Stastny, Duchene, Mueller, Johnson, Varly..

Yeah many other teams have better spare parts than we do..
colavsnum1fan
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 05.19.2008

Feb 14 @ 9:21 PM ET
Here is what I would do when Duchene comes back:

Mueller-Duchene-Hejduk
Galiardi-Stastny-Jones
Landeskog-O'Reilly-Winnik
DVG-McClement-Kobasew

Next year it should look like this:
Mueller-Duchene-Hejduk
Parise/Semin-Stastny-Hishon
Landeskog-O'Reilly-Galiardi
Malone-McClement-L. Walker/UFA

Defense:
Quincey-EJ
O'Brien-Elliott
Barrie-Wilson/Gaunce/Hejda

Trade O'Byrne or Hejda if you can. I would def re-sign SOB though. If worse came to worse could trade Wilson at the deadline this year to try and get a pick or package him with Jones for a winger.

buffntuff
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 11.09.2007

Feb 14 @ 9:30 PM ET
Nash is at the age where he doesn't line up with a rebuild and he has a cap hit of 7.8 million until 2018-19 season. For that money just get Parise.

The avs won't get nash because it just doesn't make sense and any pieces we that we could give they could get better from another club.

Fun thought but in the end reality prevails.

- Meeqsb


Nash's age and contract are why I think the Avs could make a somewhat legitimate offer for him. At least an offer that doesn't involve Duchene, O'Reilly, Johnson, or Landeskog. Getting a big winger is exactly what the Avs need - and Stastny is somewhat expendable. Plus Stastny has value.

I don't think it will happen though. And I do agree that getting Parise in the offseason would be a much better idea.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 14 @ 9:35 PM ET
Nash's age and contract are why I think the Avs could make a somewhat legitimate offer for him. At least an offer that doesn't involve Duchene, O'Reilly, Johnson, or Landeskog. Getting a big winger is exactly what the Avs need - and Stastny is somewhat expendable. Plus Stastny has value.

I don't think it will happen though. And I do agree that getting Parise in the offseason would be a much better idea.

- buffntuff


The problem is that his contract would reduce our future options and nash is in his prime NOW.

The avs aren't going to win a Cup right now so you have to think in the long term, not the short term.

Duchie, raydar, lando, EJ, Varly. All of these players are very young, barely above 22 years old on average. So you want to look for players around that age so the team can hit its peak at the same time.
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Feb 14 @ 10:38 PM ET
- Will Colorado stand pat at the deadline? Or will they move out D to bring in at least one more winger right before Duchene comes back? The second option could be interesting because it might add almost an entire offensive unit to the team right before the deadline if it's someone like Kostitsyn. Colorado also has eight NHL D right now. None however have really been talked about in rumors. K. Quincey seems to hold the most value.

EK: I agree. Not many can add a player like Duchene. I have heard they would love to add Parise, but he would be only be a rental...its known Parise is going to July 1 for sure.

- Steve-B



I ask him about something simple like AK46 and he brings up Parise? Now I know hes playing with our emotions..
buffntuff
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 11.09.2007

Feb 14 @ 10:42 PM ET
The problem is that his contract would reduce our future options and nash is in his prime NOW.

The avs aren't going to win a Cup right now so you have to think in the long term, not the short term.

Duchie, raydar, lando, EJ, Varly. All of these players are very young, barely above 22 years old on average. So you want to look for players around that age so the team can hit its peak at the same time.

- Meeqsb


I'd only want Nash if we could could trade Stastny for him - which would basically wash contracts. I think having an older, more experienced, and even energized presence on the wing would help. And I guess I think that this team can win now (within 2 years). We have bluechip talent at every position, which hasn't happened in 10 years.

Like you said it probably won't happen but I think it would help tremendously. If we replace Stastny with Nash (assuming Duchene is back) this team goes to the playoffs.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 14 @ 10:59 PM ET
Hey are there any avs stuff on the rumor chart? does anyone with a pass know
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Feb 14 @ 11:02 PM ET
Hey are there any avs stuff on the rumor chart? does anyone with a pass know
- Meeqsb


Semin @ 5%

Kostitsyn @ 40%

AK46 is the only one their leading on that makes sense.

Oh.. Roy is 20% & Kubina is 5% Neither in my opinion make much sense though.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 14 @ 11:04 PM ET
Semin @ 5%

Kostitsyn @ 40%

AK46 is the only one their leading on that makes sense.

- Steve-B


kk gracias. Its tough though cuz the avs franchise is super tight lipped
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Feb 14 @ 11:05 PM ET
kk gracias. Its tough though cuz the avs franchise is super tight lipped
- Meeqsb


I love how I ask about AK46 and he brings up Parise though.. I almost spit soda out of my nose when I read that.


EK on Kostitsyn : As for Kostitsyn, I hear he will sign for less than market to stay in Montreal. Moen is a better shot. or Derek Roy

Ewww.. It's not looking good..
Dissent
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Flavor Country
Joined: 03.28.2009

Feb 14 @ 11:25 PM ET
Duchene and Stastny should be on a line together just so we can see this celebration every other goal...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...xgNFu_9PU&feature=related
jonathonpeddle
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Newfounland, NF
Joined: 11.24.2011

Feb 15 @ 8:10 AM ET
why not ask toronto about clarke mcather? he would be a nice fit with landdy and orilley . . . he would prob be easy to get from them. i wouldnt try for AK unless its for kevin porter i just think he is way to lazy. . . and forget JVR he is out with a concussion and he still hasint steped up in the nhl yet , he only played well in last years playoffs.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 15 @ 11:18 AM ET
Still looking for 2 more players to play as the Dallas Stars and Minnesota Wild in my EA Sports NHL12 League for Xbox. Anyone interested?
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Feb 15 @ 3:20 PM ET
why not ask toronto about clarke mcather? he would be a nice fit with landdy and orilley . . . he would prob be easy to get from them. i wouldnt try for AK unless its for kevin porter i just think he is way to lazy. . . and forget JVR he is out with a concussion and he still hasint steped up in the nhl yet , he only played well in last years playoffs.
- jonathonpeddle



I would totally do that if it did not cost an arm and a leg.. At the same time I think the Avs "NEED" to get at least one top 9 winger before Duchene returns. I don't like the idea of him going back to wing. Not everyone agrees we even need someone right now.

It would be nice to see Mueller put back with Duchene and someone else take that spot on the right side next to O'Reilly.. If Winnik did not have hands of stone putting him back there and Galiardi with Duchene and Mueller would work. Except Winnik cant finish and just has virtually zero when it comes to offensive vision.

We are relying on production from O'Reilly's line so I think Galiardi is the only one that fits there if Mueller is moved back with Duchene. Who then do you play with those two..? I could see DVG getting a shot as a grinder on that line and he has shown some offensive vision. Quietly producing when he came up.. The next two weeks will be interesting..

What management does now could mean the difference between 90 & 96 points at the end of the year. Just enough of an impact to win us 2 or 3 more games might be the difference.
jshapiro
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 03.09.2006

Feb 15 @ 7:11 PM ET
How about these lines:

Duchene - O'Reilly - Landeskog
Mueller - Stastny - Hejduk
Jones - Galiardi - Winnik
Kobasew - McClement - VDG/McLeod
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Feb 15 @ 8:31 PM ET
How about these lines:

Duchene - O'Reilly - Landeskog
Mueller - Stastny - Hejduk
Jones - Galiardi - Winnik
Kobasew - McClement - VDG/McLeod

- jshapiro



Worthless 4th line and Duchene back at wing.. Why turn a valuable franchise center into a wing? It would be nice if VDG - McC - Winnik was forced to be the 4th line because of depth. If no one is brought in I am guessing it looks something like that though.
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:53 PM ET
How about these lines:

Duchene - O'Reilly - Landeskog
Mueller - Stastny - Hejduk
Jones - Galiardi - Winnik
Kobasew - McClement - VDG/McLeod

- jshapiro


That messes up all your lines again. Get some chemistry building for once.
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