ok i know Nash would never waive his no trade clause to come here but what would you offer? i don't like him as much as Bobby Ryan but here's my offer

Grabner, Nino and a one in 2013 or a 2 and 3 in this years draft
i figure i'd give us something to dream about

ok i know Nash would never waive his no trade clause to come here but what would you offer? i don't like him as much as Bobby Ryan but here's my offer

Grabner, Nino and a one in 2013 or a 2 and 3 in this years draft
- NYI78

I have a feeling it would have to be a first in the upcoming draft. I doubt they'd want to delay their rebuild an extra year. I know this may sound ridiculous but the hardest thing to give up there, for me, would be the first this year. So much defensive talent in the top 10, and our defensive prospect pool is so bare. Also you might need another NHL ready player. Really hope nobody suggests Bailey.

ok i know Nash would never waive his no trade clause to come here but what would you offer? i don't like him as much as Bobby Ryan but here's my offer

Grabner, Nino and a one in 2013 or a 2 and 3 in this years draft
i figure i'd give us something to dream about
- NYI78

That's a pretty good offer from an Isles perspective. For CBJ, they get a current top-six forward, a top tier prospect and a first rounder from a team that hasn't made the playoffs in five seasons, making that a liklely high first rounder. I'd do it, I just don't think Nash would ever waive his no-move to go to a team without a certain address past 2015 and one that has been as bad as CBJ for the past five seasons.

ok i know Nash would never waive his no trade clause to come here but what would you offer? i don't like him as much as Bobby Ryan but here's my offer

Grabner, Nino and a one in 2013 or a 2 and 3 in this years draft
i figure i'd give us something to dream about
- NYI78

Apparently he's not too keen on a big city so one never knows, but that's once again fantasy land thinking anyway. I'm still not sold on giving up too much for him only because of his salary. Not because the Islanders have money issues but he has only cracked the 70pt plateau once and he's making 7.8 per. Imagine what someone who produces more would want. Granted we'll never get that star either but since it's all fun and games anyway I figure I'd factor that in.

i agree with all of this..just wanted to change the subject for a minute

i agree with all of this..just wanted to change the subject for a minute
- NYI78

Good job buddy we need not worry about where they end up while there is still hockey here for the next few years. Love the trade proposal but we are talking about Garth you know. Wont happen. See now we can bash Garth again

Good job buddy we need not worry about where they end up while there is still hockey here for the next few years. Love the trade proposal but we are talking about Garth you know. Wont happen. See now we can bash Garth again
- kasperrko

You won't be bashing Garth this summer after he signs Parise, Suter and trades for Weber.

You won't be bashing Garth this summer after he signs Parise, Suter and trades for Weber.
- BringBackBalky

yeah I will that just means he wont be our GM anymore

Good job buddy we need not worry about where they end up while there is still hockey here for the next few years. Love the trade proposal but we are talking about Garth you know. Wont happen. See now we can bash Garth again
- kasperrko

ha!! perfect and dp...his fault to

Let's drop the whole direction this strain is going... Dee is a nice lady. She cares deeply about the Islanders and writes a post almost everyday to allow Isles fans the oportunity to vent on the Message boards. Please leave any personal comments about her off of these boards.

edit: feel free to bust on her posts.. we all do.. (in a civil way).
- niteislander

the hating on Dee isn't needed and directed at the wrong person. She doesn't get paid to blog, she does this on her own time because she loves the team like all of us do.

To bring the optimistic fun back down to Earth a little...realistic free agent wish list anyone?

http://capgeek.com/free_agents.php

To bring the optimistic fun back down to Earth a little...realistic free agent wish list anyone?

http://capgeek.com/free_agents.php
- eichiefs9

Based on age and salary looks like we're due for Sean O'Donnell (40) and Mike Knuble (39)

Edit: Oh wait, Jason Blake is only 38

That is incorrect. There are not more lucrative options elsewhere. That is why Wang wouldn't be "settling" for Brooklyn. Brooklyn is in the heart of the New York City Market. Tons of revenue is waiting to be tapped into in this market. Its why the Nets are going there. The cable contract, the corporate sponsorship opportunities, the population density to pull from to sell the place out with the convenience of mass transit. Brooklyn has a leg up on every other potential location. Truth is, the only reason Nassau County is even in the conversation is because the team is currently playing there and it is geographically close to the center of the fan base.

If you look at the other mentioned possibilities out of NY (KC, Seattle, Quebec), CW and the Isles would be tenants there as well. Seattle and KC don't have the population density of Nassau County, let alone NYC. Cable contracts in those areas won't be worth nearly as much as they are in NYC or Long Island. those factors alone take those cities out of the equasion as a more lucrative option than Brooklyn or even a new place in Nassau. Quebec is also building a municipality-owned arena, CW would be a tenant there as well and Quebec is more likely to get Phoenix to relocate there than the Isles.

The most important reason why Brooklyn is a more likely option than other municipalities is the fact that the NHL doesn't want to lose a team in the NY market. Even though the Rangers and Devils (sort of) are part of this market, it is in the League's best interests to have as many teams in the NYC market (that can be supported) as possible. This area has supported three teams for 30 years. It can continue to do so.

BD made a good point: CW can be a tenant, as long as he's given a deal where he is practically assured of turning a profit every season. If that's the case, he has no incentive to sell the team now, after losing over $200M on them when he can hold onto it for another 10 years or so and potentailly recoup his losses. As bad as CW is at making hockey decisions, he's a brilliant businessman. So are the guys affiliated with the Barclays. I'm sure they can hammer out a deal that would be beneficial to all parties involved.
- Jethro09

ofcourse he would be "settling" for the exact thing he didnt want when he bought the team.
He bought the team for one reason, because he was told if he did he would get land to build a new arena & his lighthouse... he was told.. "buy that team & the land is yours to do with as you please" the land is the only reason Wang the Ancient Mariner bought this Albatross. So for the team to end up in Brooklyn... on someone elses land, someone elses building, as a tenant, would be "settling"

XxNYIxX

Based on age and salary looks like we're due for Sean O'Donnell (40) and Mike Knuble (39)

Edit: Oh wait, Jason Blake is only 38
- BringBackBalky

Only a matter if time before we bring back Adrian Aucoin also...We dont have enough guys on the team who miss the net while shooting the puck 100 MPH from the points so we may as well get him back here.

To bring the optimistic fun back down to Earth a little...realistic free agent wish list anyone?

http://capgeek.com/free_agents.php
- eichiefs9

Hemsky, Ales »
Wideman, Dennis »
Carle, Matt
Hudler, Jiri »
Jones, David »
Moen, Travis »

these names stood out

Do we need to get into this again today?
- Jethro09

as i said I hope it is an option. I'm just pointing out what Gary Bettman said. If they move there, id be happy.

Hemsky, Ales »
Wideman, Dennis »
Carle, Matt
Hudler, Jiri »
Jones, David »
Moen, Travis »

these names stood out
- NYI78

interesting list....i name i would have added:

Reality, Please

No. You're not. The Barclays is sufficent to hold an NHL team. The Barclays is only 1,700 fewer seats than the current NVMC, with 3x the luxury suites. The Barclays has only 500 fewer upper bowl seats than the MTS Center in Winnipeg and that arena is doing just fine for the Jets.

Bettman and Co. are telling everyone that the Barclays is "insufficent" because they want the team to play in an arena that can seat 18000+ people as opposed to 14,500 so they can generate more revenue for the league and the team when the place acutally sells out. While it would be better for the Isles and the NHL to have an arena with more seating, the Barclays is "sufficent" to house an NHL franchise. If 15,000 works for the Jets in Winnipeg, I dont' see how 14,500 doesn't work for the Isles in Brooklyn.
- Jethro09

the jets left winnipeg once already partly due to that fact.

interesting list....i name i would have added:

Reality, Please
- LetsGoIsles

Last name first, first name last. Thank you!

Hemsky, Ales »
Wideman, Dennis »
Carle, Matt
Hudler, Jiri »
Jones, David »
Moen, Travis »

these names stood out
- NYI78

I'd like Boychuk, assuming he hits UFA status. Hemsky's injury troubles worry me, but the rest of them I like.

I am not one for the " moving Story " with the Isles, as I do not live near. However, I would like to see the Isles stay on the Island. I am in fear the the regional politics will not allow the Isles to do so.

It is a shame that a once VERY PROUD dynasty, has been reduced to this. It has not been one man, or one owner. It has been several men and a few owners that have caused this conundrum.

It is too bad. The history and tradition of the team deserve better..
- bixll

THIS!

What is the reason that you doubt he's lost $20M/season on the team? Instead of being cynical (and I ususally am by nature), I see a team playing in the oldest sports arena in the country (and Canada, I believe), with practically no luxury suites, situated on Long Island, that has been 1/3 empty practically every night he has owned the team. Don't forget, he also owned the team for about an 8 year period when it was burdened by a horrendous lease with the Building Managing agent, SMG, that basically pillaged whaever revenue the team did bring into the arena.

Its not that hard to believe that CW has legitimately lost $200M on this team since he's owned it. Couple that with the fact that he paid $180M for it and its now valued at about $150M, I don't think he'll get a good enough offer to sell the team where he can recoup a significant amount of the money he lost on this team so far.
- Jethro09

Creative accounting. He is not that big of a hockey fan to throw away 20 million per season, unless there is something in it for him.

Smart business guys do not throw money away. It is easy to show losses through accounting. I am sure that CW has several holding companies. I bet some lost money and some made some money. It just depends on how you want to juggle your funds, to maximize your returns.

Creative accounting. He is not that big of a hockey fan to throw away 20 million per season, unless there is something in it for him.

Smart business guys do not throw money away. It is easy to show losses through accounting. I am sure that CW has several holding companies. I bet some lost money and some made some money. It just depends on how you want to juggle your funds, to maximize your returns.
- bixll

distributions & salaries go a LONG way on the income statement. his bottom line might say he lost 20 million a year but i wonder how much he paid himself....

Hemsky, Ales »
Wideman, Dennis »
Carle, Matt
Hudler, Jiri »
Jones, David »
Moen, Travis »

these names stood out
- NYI78

Gaustad and Grossman next year!!!

ofcourse he would be "settling" for the exact thing he didnt want when he bought the team.
He bought the team for one reason, because he was told if he did he would get land to build a new arena & his lighthouse... he was told.. "buy that team & the land is yours to do with as you please" the land is the only reason Wang the Ancient Mariner bought this Albatross. So for the team to end up in Brooklyn... on someone elses land, someone elses building, as a tenant, would be "settling"

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

He's not going to get to develop any land anywhere now. That ship has sailed (thanks completely to the corrupt politics of the TOH and Nassau County, representatives of the ABLI and the small business owners and commercial real estate owners who stood to face competition from the Lighthouse). So, would Wang be better off "settling" for something that gives him a chance to recoup his financial losses over time, or would he be better off selling the team at a major loss? That's the real question. If he's a tenant in Brooklyn, with the right deal in place, he can recoup the losses that he's incurred due to the political BS he was ambushed with in Nassau and the TOH. If he sells at pennies on the dollar, he has no chance to recoup those losses.