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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 13 @ 9:55 AM ET
I was shaking my head at Coburn last night, I was hoping the Flyers could reverse the Zhitnik/Coburn trade at one point.
- Buts16


I was at the game last night. I thought Coburn played in fear of Datsyuk every time they were on the ice together.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
Its amazing that the Flyers have tried every route possible to try and shore up that position, and nothing seems to work.
- Gunner Staal


Well a half a season of poor play from Bryzgalov doesn't mean he isn't the answer. Still have to give him the rest of this year, and all of next year to see if he is the solution.
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
It was a rough weekend. Last night was a bit of a tease but moving forward, we should be just fine. The deadline is around the corner, so there isn't much to worry about. I'm not so sure this is our final roster of the season.
- roenick97


ROE

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
The team would come first if the player asks to be traded. What you get back in return should help bolster the roster. Why would the Flyers want to keep a player who asks to be traded? I get the point that it screams their sellers but the chances of winning the cup are very slim with or without him. The confidence of this team is already on a downslide whether Timonen is here or not. We obviously have different opinions on the situation. I dont condone trading Timonen unless he comes into Homers office and asks to be.
- stveshdy


If they're trading Timonen, it will be to a team that is a serious contender for the Stanley Cup. Serious contenders are not that likely to deal a ton off their roster, even to add Timonen, so you are likely looking at landing more kids and picks, and not a guy who can replace Timonen as the team's top defenseman or a guy who can immediately step in as a top line forward.

The absolute last thing you want with a team full of young players who, despite their recent struggles, are still in the thick of the playoff race is to strip even more confidence from them. Telling this group now that you don;t have any faith in them could have long term repercussions.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
Melrose is a flamboyant character, the guy knows the game though
- PLindbergh31


He's as good of an analyst as he was a coach.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
Melrose is a flamboyant character, the guy knows the game though
- PLindbergh31


So well he showed us first thing in Tampa what he's capable of
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
ROE
- Buts16


roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
ROE
- Buts16

HEY HEY!!
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
I was at the game last night. I thought Coburn played in fear of Datsyuk every time they were on the ice together.
- roenick97



if that big mother (frank)er ever hit some one and got some nasty into him, youd be looking at pronger v2
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
I remember a Flyers team dominating a Buffalo Sabres team back in 2001 or 02. Beat them all 4 times during the regular season, shut them out maybe 3 of those 4 times to boot.

They were matched up in the first round of the playoffs. Seemed like an easy sweep, one soft goal later by Cechmanik and the series was over in 5 games with an 8-1 beatdown.

Playoffs are a different beast. I want them to beat the Rags and every team for that matter but this is still a 4th seeded team playing 8 rookies and without their top defenseman.

I think they'll right the ship. As others have pointed out, they need better defensive play with the forwards helpding out. A win here and there can go a long way.

Go Flyers.
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
I was at the game last night. I thought Coburn played in fear of Datsyuk every time they were on the ice together.
- roenick97


everytime Datsyuk got the puck I was in fear
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
GEEZU Bryz did just post a shutout, but i forgot it doesn't count cause he only faced 17 shots, and he did go through a stretch of 8 games where he allowed more than one goal twice- both against Rags and Bruins hmm. Either way he's been an improvement over what the tandem they had last year.
- JoeRussomanno


I don't deny him that, however given the length and price of the deal I am sure there are Flyer fans that are uneasy about his consistency thus far.

I think when the Flyers made that aggressive move they would have liked to have gotten more consistency from that position. I mean I know its just a regular season game, but the fact he was benched for the Winter Classic is kind of a microcosm of his tenure thus far.

I'm not saying he won't turn it around, I'm just saying there have been more questions then I think the Flyers wanted when signing him to that deal.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
Just look at the flyers and how many times they mopped the floor with teams in the regular season then were shown the door in the playoffs. The cup ain't won in February.
- JoeRussomanno


If you make the playoffs anything can happen but the likelihood of the Flyers winning is shrinking imo. At some point you need to start playing consistent hockey and defensively the Flyers are a mess. If they can figure out a way to change that, then ill change my opinion of their chances.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 13 @ 9:57 AM ET
Well a half a season of poor play from Bryzgalov doesn't mean he isn't the answer. Still have to give him the rest of this year, and all of next year to see if he is the solution.
- PLindbergh31


I agree.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:57 AM ET
no worries, this flyers team is who we thought they were...
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 13 @ 9:58 AM ET
no worries, this flyers team is who we thought they were...
- mydoglicks


On a bright note, Talbot is living up to his deal so far, which I thought would be tough to do.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:58 AM ET
no worries, this flyers team is who we thought they were...
- mydoglicks


I didn't think they'd be sitting in 4th place at this point.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 9:58 AM ET
If they're trading Timonen, it will be to a team that is a serious contender for the Stanley Cup. Serious contenders are not that likely to deal a ton off their roster, even to add Timonen, so you are likely looking at landing more kids and picks, and not a guy who can replace Timonen as the team's top defenseman or a guy who can immediately step in as a top line forward.

The absolute last thing you want with a team full of young players who, despite their recent struggles, are still in the thick of the playoff race is to strip even more confidence from them. Telling this group now that you don;t have any faith in them could have long term repercussions.

- Jsaquella


Im not condoning trading Timonen. He would have to ask to be traded. I would still think he lands you a decent package. I also dont think the Flyers move him unless the team is heading in the wrong direction in the next few weeks. Meaning from the 4th seed to the 8th seed (and him asking to be traded).
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
everytime Datsyuk got the puck I was in fear
- Buts16

You and I both but you don't hesitate or allow yourself to get intimidated. That's what I felt when I saw Coburn going up against Datsyuk's fine. You're a freakin pro Hockey player. He goes up against every team's best every night. Play your game!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
I disagree with that....Ever see the front of our net? its like a comfort inn. I want to see someone change that.
- Philly1980


You don't need to hit people to help in that regard. They need to have a better presence there, but "crease Clearing" isn;t the same as it was a few years ago. Now you need guys who can keep opposing forwards from sitting on your goalie's lap and keep them out of the crease when the goalie is battling for rebounds.

Getting a big hitter doesn't do that.
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
Well a half a season of poor play from Bryzgalov doesn't mean he isn't the answer. Still have to give him the rest of this year, and all of next year to see if he is the solution.
- PLindbergh31


my Sunday morning goalie is great

3 weeks ago he let in 10 goals in game, we average giving up 2.5 which in beer league hockey is amazing. In the last 6 games he's given up 1,0,0,10,5,1 respectively.

I have decided all goalies are loons and you just never know what's going to happen.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
I don't deny him that, however given the length and price of the deal I am sure there are Flyer fans that are uneasy about his consistency thus far.

I think when the Flyers made that aggressive move they would have liked to have gotten more consistency from that position. I mean I know its just a regular season game, but the fact he was benched for the Winter Classic is kind of a microcosm of his tenure thus far.

I'm not saying he won't turn it around, I'm just saying there have been more questions then I think the Flyers wanted when signing him to that deal.

- Gunner Staal


well even fleury last year had a bad stretch...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 13 @ 10:00 AM ET
I don't deny him that, however given the length and price of the deal I am sure there are Flyer fans that are uneasy about his consistency thus far.

I think when the Flyers made that aggressive move they would have liked to have gotten more consistency from that position. I mean I know its just a regular season game, but the fact he was benched for the Winter Classic is kind of a microcosm of his tenure thus far.

I'm not saying he won't turn it around, I'm just saying there have been more questions then I think the Flyers wanted when signing him to that deal.

- Gunner Staal

we're like what an 18th of the way through the deal? Flyer fans are fickle over any goalie and will look for any reason to female dog about anything. The deal is fine just wish they din't have that NMC on it too.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 13 @ 10:00 AM ET
Im not condoning trading Timonen. He would have to ask to be traded. I would still think he lands you a decent package. I also dont think the Flyers move him unless the team is heading in the wrong direction in the next few weeks. Meaning from the 4th seed to the 8th seed.
- stveshdy


I don't think they move him, even if he asks, before the draft. I also don't think Timonen would sabotage the season if he's unhappy or doesn't think they can win.
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 13 @ 10:01 AM ET
You and I both but you don't hesitate or allow yourself to get intimidated. That's what I felt when I saw Coburn going up against Datsyuk's fine. You're a freakin pro Hockey player. He goes up against every team's best every night. Play your game!
- roenick97


I think dmen have been quaking in fear for 10 years because of that bastard.

What a hockey player.

I do agree with you, you gotta do everything you can to stop him and not play in fear which is easy to say from my couch
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