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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 12:02 PM ET
Phx has no youthful depth (raffi I'll take your head off torress, shane my career sucks doan, ray idfk whitney houston) tossing them JVR would be risky but i think they would bite for him
- Flyers4Life88


Cap hit is 5.25M until 2016. Carle is going to make the same or more and is two years older. I would hold onto Yandle if I was Phoenix. He is a legit first pairing defenseman. He is a steal for his contract (money and years).
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 12:04 PM ET
Cap hit is 5.25M until 2016. Carle is going to make the same or more and is two years older. I would hold onto Yandle if I was Phoenix. He is a legit first pairing defenseman. He is a steal for his contract (money and years).
- stveshdy


a little under half the teams salary is locked up in D. i think maybe a D and a young forward in return would give this deal legs

(talking about PHx)
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
Teemu has a NMC. And no "I" in his last name.
- rockychocbill


Yea, well I have read in 2 places now that he might be considering waiving his NMC. And SOOOO SOORRRY I mispelled SelannE.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
I would let Carle walk. Too many weaknesses in his game, if they are going to spend 5 million on him, might as well spend 6.5 on Suter.

I'm tired of watching Carle's shot from the point get blocked.

Edit: I would actually trade Carle at the deadline.

- PLindbergh31



I'm all for adding Suter over Carle. But what exactly are all of these weaknesses in Carle's game?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
Goaltending, D zone coverage, PK, equals game over.
- MJL


lather, rinse, repeat. broken record.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:06 PM ET
Just not eager to sign another huge contract.
- funmaster18

gotta make this team better somehow
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:06 PM ET
lather, rinse, repeat. broken record.
- hammarby31

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:08 PM ET
My two eyes are the evidence. I see soft as a marshmallow play from him constantly. Everyone all year has said the d-core has been awful, well you already have Meszaros and Coburn locked up, does it make sense to lock up another guy who has been part of the defensive struggles?
- PLindbergh31



If your seeing soft as marshmallow play from Carle then your dreaming or imagining it. Because it's just simply not the case. Either that or it is a bias. Carle has been very good all year, and is right up there with Timonen as far as being the top defenseman on this team. Carle has not been part of the team's defensive struggles.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:10 PM ET
If your seeing soft as marshmallow play from Carle then your dreaming or imagining it. Because it's just simply not the case. Either that or it is a bias. Carle has been very good all year, and is right up there with Timonen as far as being the top defenseman on this team. Carle has not been part of the team's defensive struggles.
- MJL

its easy to be on the top when everyone else is junk
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 12:11 PM ET
a little under half the teams salary is locked up in D. i think maybe a D and a young forward in return would give this deal legs

(talking about PHx)

- Flyers4Life88


If its a possibility I am all for it. Doesn't hurt to make a phone call and find out. I just dont see Phoenix wanting to give Yandle up (his contract is good). He is a top pairing defenseman who is very underrated.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:13 PM ET
If it's between 5 for Carle and 7 for Suter I'll gladly go for Suter. 3-4 guys shouldn't be making 5 mil, especially when we already have Mezzy and Coburn. No need to pay that much for Carle.
- hereticpride



What makes Carle a 3-4 defenseman?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 13 @ 12:13 PM ET
All I will say is this...Bobrovsky got lit up playing against two top teams in the league and his defense had alot to do with it. He is no better than Bryzgalov in net when the defense doesnt do their job. So I think its time we cut alittle slack on the goalies bc the defensive zone coverage is horrible. You cant make saves when your constantly leaving guys open in scoring areas. Crazy.
- stveshdy



how many tap in goals this weekend?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 12:14 PM ET
how many tap in goals this weekend?
- nastyflyergirl


Too many. Ridiculous.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 13 @ 12:14 PM ET
carles trade value will be the highest at the td to a team that is a true contender, if were not planning on resigning him we must get some return..

carle will not be a difference maker in whether we win a cup this year or not.

carles potential is maxed out
coburns potential is maxed out
mezzy's potential is maxed out

these guys are at the age where what you see is what you get, we need to blow the d up this offseason like we did up front last year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:15 PM ET
It's a game of chicken. Sometimes you get burned. There are some other solid UFA d-men out there. Guys like Boychuk.
- PLindbergh31



Put Boychuk on this team right now, with the suspect team defense and poor goaltending, and see how he looks.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 12:16 PM ET
carles trade value will be the highest at the td to a team that is a true contender, if were not planning on resigning him we must get some return..

carle will not be a difference maker in whether we win a cup this year or not.

carles potential is maxed out
coburns potential is maxed out
mezzy's potential is maxed out

these guys are at the age where what you see is what you get, we need to blow the d up this offseason like we did up front last year.

- mydoglicks


If they can add Suter and another defensive defenseman the Flyers will be just fine. Letting Carle walk is all that really needs to be done. If the Flyers arent happy with Mez or Coburn then they can trade one if they wish.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:16 PM ET
carles trade value will be the highest at the td to a team that is a true contender, if were not planning on resigning him we must get some return..

carle will not be a difference maker in whether we win a cup this year or not.

carles potential is maxed out
coburns potential is maxed out
mezzy's potential is maxed out

these guys are at the age where what you see is what you get, we need to blow the d up this offseason like we did up front last year.

- mydoglicks


what are you expecting in return for a Carle trade?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 13 @ 12:16 PM ET
What makes Carle a 3-4 defenseman?
- MJL

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:17 PM ET
how many tap in goals this weekend?
- nastyflyergirl


108. at least.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 13 @ 12:21 PM ET
what are you expecting in return for a Carle trade?
- wilsonecho91


high pic and prospect
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 12:21 PM ET
Put Boychuk on this team right now, with the suspect team defense and poor goaltending, and see how he looks.
- MJL


boychuck, wth are you talking about, and give boston what? gtfoh
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 12:21 PM ET
high pic and prospect
- mydoglicks


nothing
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:21 PM ET

- hereticpride



That's about the answer I expected.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 13 @ 12:21 PM ET
If your seeing soft as marshmallow play from Carle then your dreaming or imagining it. Because it's just simply not the case. Either that or it is a bias. Carle has been very good all year, and is right up there with Timonen as far as being the top defenseman on this team. Carle has not been part of the team's defensive struggles.
- MJL


The Carle soft as marshmallow play when he posed for a picture with Bertuzzi on the Wings PP goal. It was in the same dream with Briere flying to Florida while being concussed.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:25 PM ET
throw in carle. his wife stays tho
- Flyers4Life88

I can see him listening to offers from Minne, since they live there during the offseason (she's a Minnesota gal).
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