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Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
Kronwall's hit was great. I'd like to see more Flyers apply those kind of checks.

My point on Rinaldo was the 'distance traveled' aspect of the charging rule.

- tangent_man


yeah yeah i know
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 13 @ 11:23 AM ET
My two eyes are the evidence. I see soft as a marshmallow play from him constantly. Everyone all year has said the d-core has been awful, well you already have Meszaros and Coburn locked up, does it make sense to lock up another guy who has been part of the defensive struggles?
- PLindbergh31


I think Carle is gone. Just a gut feeling. Coburn was higher on priority list to get signed.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 13 @ 11:23 AM ET
7 for suter? ehhhhh as much as i would like to the highest id go is 5-6.25
- Flyers4Life88

If it's between 5 for Carle and 7 for Suter I'll gladly go for Suter. 3-4 guys shouldn't be making 5 mil, especially when we already have Mezzy and Coburn. No need to pay that much for Carle.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 13 @ 11:24 AM ET
I would prefer to spend 6.5 mil on Suter, too. But to get to that point, you have to let Carle walk first, and then hope that Suter signs. If not, you're without both guys, and then overpaying for a lesser free agent, or trading valuable assets to acquire a like defenseman.
- bradleyc4


It's a game of chicken. Sometimes you get burned. There are some other solid UFA d-men out there. Guys like Boychuk.
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 11:24 AM ET
If it's between 5 for Carle and 7 for Suter I'll gladly go for Suter. 3-4 guys shouldn't be making 5 mil, especially when we already have Mezzy and Coburn. No need to pay that much for Carle.
- hereticpride


i would let carle walk this morning if it was possible
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 11:26 AM ET
i would let carle walk this morning if it was possible
- Flyers4Life88


tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 13 @ 11:26 AM ET
It's a game of chicken. Sometimes you get burned. There are some other solid UFA d-men out there. Guys like Boychuk.
- PLindbergh31


Edmonton gave Sutton an 1-year extension, so he's out of the running.

I like Boychuk's game.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 13 @ 11:26 AM ET
If it's between 5 for Carle and 7 for Suter I'll gladly go for Suter. 3-4 guys shouldn't be making 5 mil, especially when we already have Mezzy and Coburn. No need to pay that much for Carle.
- hereticpride


Agreed. Spending around 5 million for guys who aren't top pairing guys is a gamble. I would rather spend extra on a guy who can play on a top pairing.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 11:26 AM ET
My two eyes are the evidence. I see soft as a marshmallow play from him constantly. Everyone all year has said the d-core has been awful, well you already have Meszaros and Coburn locked up, does it make sense to lock up another guy who has been part of the defensive struggles?
- PLindbergh31

Suter. Enough said.
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 11:27 AM ET
Edmonton gave Sutton an 1-year extension, so he's out of the running.

I like Boychuk's game.

- tangent_man


boston wont giveup no d man! lol u kidding, i like lidstroms game...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 13 @ 11:27 AM ET
I think Carle is gone. Just a gut feeling. Coburn was higher on priority list to get signed.
- funmaster18


Coburn might have just agreed to the number they wanted first
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 11:28 AM ET
I think Carle is gone. Just a gut feeling. Coburn was higher on priority list to get signed.
- funmaster18


I agree with you. The Flyers will explore other options that are better than Carle. So Suter is a must have this offseason.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 13 @ 11:28 AM ET
Edmonton gave Sutton an 1-year extension, so he's out of the running.

I like Boychuk's game.

- tangent_man


So do I. There is a chance the Bruins lock him up before he becomes a UFA, but there are guys out there.

Heck Dennis Wideman is a UFA, he's had a better year than Carle.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 13 @ 11:29 AM ET
Coburn might have just agreed to the number they wanted first
- Jsaquella


Or Coburn will be dealt since resigning with the flyers is the kiss of death
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 11:30 AM ET
So do I. There is a chance the Bruins lock him up before he becomes a UFA, but there are guys out there.

Heck Dennis Wideman is a UFA, he's had a better year than Carle.

- PLindbergh31


Yeah but wideman is gonna ask for like 5, so why not just break the bank for the tandem down in nashvile
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 11:31 AM ET
So do I. There is a chance the Bruins lock him up before he becomes a UFA, but there are guys out there.

Heck Dennis Wideman is a UFA, he's had a better year than Carle.

- PLindbergh31


I dont look at players bc of numbers and minutes. You have to find a player that fits into the mold that your trying to create. I would take Boychuk and Grossman if they fit what the Flyers want to do. Sometimes you can have too many of the same defenseman, need to have a good mix.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 13 @ 11:31 AM ET
Yeah but wideman is gonna ask for like 5, so why not just break the bank for the tandem down in nashvile
- Flyers4Life88


Weber isn't a realistic option imo, but I believe Suter should be the top priority come July 1.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 13 @ 11:31 AM ET
I agree with you. The Flyers will explore other options that are better than Carle. So Suter is a must have this offseason.
- stveshdy


Yep. I think the Flyers may offer a lowball contract, but with timonen messy and Coburn under contract, barring a trade, Carle is odd man out. Could be wrong though. Hard to tell what homer will do.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 13 @ 11:32 AM ET
Weber isn't a realistic option imo, but I believe Suter should be the top priority come July 1.
- PLindbergh31


Suter is an upgrade, but still not sure If he's why we need, especially at the price he will command.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 11:33 AM ET
Yep. I think the Flyers may offer a lowball contract, but with timonen messy and Coburn under contract, barring a trade, Carle is odd man out. Could be wrong though. Hard to tell what homer will do.
- funmaster18


Wouldnt surprise me at all if Homer trades for Suters rights at the draft. Then try and sign him before he even hits the market. Homer doesnt sit back and wait when he wants something.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 13 @ 11:33 AM ET
Carle will walk. It's just too much money into the 3-4/5-6 spots. There is almost no way the Flyers can be a playoff team if they don't land the biggest UFA D man either this year or next. You cant even make a good offer if you pay Carle.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 13 @ 11:33 AM ET
All true. I think the contention will be that the hit was late.
- MBFlyerfan


Probably, but I disagree.
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 11:33 AM ET
Wouldnt surprise me at all if Homer trades for Suters rights at the draft. Then try and sign him before he even hits the market. Homer doesnt sit back and wait when he wants something.
- stveshdy


Truth
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
Probably, but I disagree.
- Scoob


I disagree as well. I thought it was a good hit.


funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
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- Flyers4Life88



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