not to mention he'd been on the ice for over a minute at that point...
- Big_Lightnin

why?

komi has played better defensively than schenn this year...and imo is a much better shutdown dman than schenn at this point. not to mention, a little vetran leadership could go a long way when a young team is battling for the playoffs...

army needs to be given an opportunity....period.
- Pen15

schenn was a plus 10 heading to the mtl game on saturday, what are u talking about.

he's a bad skater, often find himself out of position, and is king at giving the puck away in the worst possible moments...

i'm not saying he won't get better as he progresses, but maybe a few games in the press box will give him some perspective.
- Pen15

hey.. i am not against moving schenn.. we got holzer and aulie who play a similar game both ready for full time NHL duties.. especially bottom pairing duties

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Colborne is the ONLY prospect the Leafs have in the system who looks like he may actually be an NHL center one day (McKegg still in Jr, and splits time on the Wing).

They should not be trading Colborne unless he is demanded in a trade for somebody HUGE.
- Big_Lightnin

Olden (splits time, but looks more like a center), Carrick, Ryan, Crescenzi.

EDIT: Eakins has Kadri playing center fulltime with the Marlies this year as well.

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Colborne is the ONLY prospect the Leafs have in the system who looks like he may actually be an NHL center one day (McKegg still in Jr, and splits time on the Wing).

They should not be trading Colborne unless he is demanded in a trade for somebody HUGE.
- Big_Lightnin

I think if he is packaged with Schenn and Army, the 3 of them should give us a good return...

he played like 10 games since coming back from the concussion did nothing rw saw that and now he's sitting period.
- leafsdc

...and how long has lombo been doing nothing?

schenn was a plus 10 heading to the mtl game on saturday, what are u talking about.
- leafsdc

That only means he was on the ice a lot of times when Kessel and Lupul were on fire. That's all it means.

not to mention he'd been on the ice for over a minute at that point...
- Big_Lightnin

Thats true too......... he was gassed at that point

he played like 10 games since coming back from the concussion did nothing rw saw that and now he's sitting period.
- leafsdc

10 games you say?

wow.. how is he not back into form yet?

he played like 10 games since coming back from the concussion did nothing rw saw that and now he's sitting period.
- leafsdc

Colby's played 14 total games. And something like 9 were before he got back from his concussion.

And 10 games after a concussion? A lot of guys would still be feeling some effects after being off.

hey.. i am not against moving schenn.. we got holzer and aulie who play a similar game both ready for full time NHL duties.. especially bottom pairing duties
- Dozzer

exactly.

something's gotta give soon...this logjam at the back needs to be cleared up to get us something up front in return. i think schenn is the odd man out given all of our comparable pieces (that you named above), and the fact his name is most desirable amongts other GMs....which will probably get us a better return.

he played like 10 games since coming back from the concussion did nothing rw saw that and now he's sitting period.
- leafsdc

pretty sure he only played 1 game...maybe 2

I think if he is packaged with Schenn and Army, the 3 of them should give us a good return...
- bixll

dude....... thats over 7 million dollars as a package. Who wants 7 million of a fringe player, a not ready for prime time defensemen and a still in the minors center??

...and how long has lombo been doing nothing?
- Pen15

at least lombo can move from point a to point b wiothout it looking like there is a 200 pound man on his back.

pretty sure he only played 1 game...
- Big_Lightnin

ya go look, thats so wrong its unreal, are u a leaf fan. him and liles came back on same night, army sat first time on saturday.

rely? why in hell wouldnt they like it. if your a team who has jeff carter u buy him out, the player still gets all his money, it dosent count agasit that teams cap, then that player can go and sighn with a new team for more money. like the nba

example carter is owed 50 mill next 10 years a free buyout like the nba is the player gets the full amount not 2/3rds of it and the team gets the 5 mill off their cap, team would be jackets, then carter becomes ufa, lets say he sighns with kings for 4 years at 16 million, thats an extra 16 million carter would have never got. you can do that with loungo in vancouver and so many other players. works for both sides like nba.
- leafsdc

because if the player is over the age of 35, getting a new contract wont be so easy.

meh.. maybe buyouts will be allowed but only to a certain age.. we shall see i guess

But have the Leafs really been prevented from making a move due to cap space?

I doubt it.

If the Leafs were granted an extra $5 million in cap space last summer, would Burke have really made any different or additional moves?

This team doesn't lack cap space.

It lacks talent, and the ability to acquire that talent.
- Atomic Wedgie

Cap space is not the issue now. They are set up well contract-wise. They lack the resources to acquire the resources that they are missing... except for maybe a coach. They could go get a new one. Hopefully they will.

schenn was a plus 10 heading to the mtl game on saturday, what are u talking about.
- leafsdc

schenn:

1. can't skate for his life
2. is horrendus with the puck
3. often finds himself out of position

for those 3 reasons alone, he needs to be dealt before the league catches on.

dude....... thats over 7 million dollars as a package. Who wants 7 million of a fringe player, a not ready for prime time defensemen and a still in the minors center??


- faceto27

Hopefully Columbus or Anaheim.

rely? why in hell wouldnt they like it. if your a team who has jeff carter u buy him out, the player still gets all his money, it dosent count agasit that teams cap, then that player can go and sighn with a new team for more money. like the nba

example carter is owed 50 mill next 10 years a free buyout like the nba is the player gets the full amount not 2/3rds of it and the team gets the 5 mill off their cap, team would be jackets, then carter becomes ufa, lets say he sighns with kings for 4 years at 16 million, thats an extra 16 million carter would have never got. you can do that with loungo in vancouver and so many other players. works for both sides like nba.
- leafsdc

I realize you were just using the Carter contract as an example, but here goes:

If the new CBA contains a salary roll-back like the last one, the Carter contract is going to be an incredible bargain.

pretty sure he only played 1 game...
- Big_Lightnin

5 games actually

at least lombo can move from point a to point b wiothout it looking like there is a 200 pound man on his back.
- leafsdc

and how far do you think speed is going to get you coming down the stretch of the season??

welcome to playoff type hockey my friend....we have plenty of speed and that hasn't really done us any good of late. what we need is a player to match the style of game being played (close checking, dump and chase board game).....army > lombo at that.

exactly.

something's gotta give soon...this logjam at the back needs to be cleared up to get us something up front in return. i think schenn is the odd man out given all of our comparable pieces (that you named above), and the fact his name is most desirable amongts other GMs....which will probably get us a better return.
- Pen15

Not so sure he's "desireable" anymore........ Don Luce the director of player personnel for the Flyers, said when he was tailing the Leafs for a couple of weeks about Schenn............ "He is overrated"

I think so too

pretty sure he only played 1 game...maybe 2
- Big_Lightnin

Five.

Feb 1,4,6,7,9

ya go look, thats so wrong its unreal, are u a leaf fan. him and liles came back on same night, army sat first time on saturday.
- leafsdc

my bad, it's been 5. Was thinking it was the Pens game he returned.

Still, definitely not 10.