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shinebox
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Joined: 09.30.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:18 PM ET
cammy has had a tough couple seasons....no denying that, but he's far and above more talented than bourque. in the long run, it won't even be close.
- Pen15

Yup now subtract about 4 million a season with similar stats, plus effort and size which the habs needed badly.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:19 PM ET
Yup now subtract about 4 million a season with similar stats, plus effort and size.
- shinebox

who said bourque gives effort? his MO in calgary was showing up when he wanted to.

don't let a 5-10 game streak skew the reality. cammy is by far the superior player....his career stats prove that.
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:19 PM ET
i'd still take gus/reims of the goalies that are actually available there at a reasonable price.....

sure...i'll take tim thomas...but in reality he's not available...and if he was, he'd cost a poopload more than what you'd like to believe.

- Pen15


I doubt Backstrom makes that much again. Quick will get a raise for sure, but who knows how high. Lehtonen is a good goalie.
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:20 PM ET
i'd still take gus/reims of the goalies that are actually available there at a reasonable price.....

sure...i'll take tim thomas...but in reality he's not available...and if he was, he'd cost a poopload more than what you'd like to believe.

- Pen15

Well he is about 3 more FB posts away....

Their other goalie is UFA as well, Khoduban? They arent keeping both.
shmenge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.18.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:21 PM ET
i'd still take gus/reims of the goalies that are actually available there at a reasonable price.....

sure...i'll take tim thomas...but in reality he's not available...and if he was, he'd cost a poopload more than what you'd like to believe.

- Pen15

sometimes you just have to take a chance and hope it works out
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golfingsince
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Feb 12 @ 8:22 PM ET
who said bourque gives effort? his MO in calgary was showing up when he wanted to.

don't let a 5-10 game streak skew the reality. cammy is by far the superior player....his career stats prove that.

- Pen15


Doesn't matter. Cammy was being overpaid for his production, so Bourque's contract has better value. Also, Cammy was another small forward on a team full of them. It's not like the Habs gave up anything to get Cammy, so in reality they cleared cap space and got Bourque in return.
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:22 PM ET
who said bourque gives effort? his MO in calgary was showing up when he wanted to.

don't let a 5-10 game streak skew the reality. cammy is by far the superior player....his career stats prove that.

- Pen15

at least he showed up sometimes that at least is a step up from cammy, now you can get your kicks in if you think your right, cammy is the more talented player, no doubt, not like he is tearing it up on calgary now is he? How far apart are his and Bourques stats again? Bourque made the habs bigger up front as well.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:23 PM ET
Well he is about 3 more FB posts away....

Their other goalie is UFA as well, Khoduban? They arent keeping both.

- shinebox

why don't you name a couple guys you think can be had on that list...and provide a price you think would be reasonable....
shinebox
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Feb 12 @ 8:23 PM ET
Doesn't matter. Cammy was being overpaid for his production, so Bourque's contract has better value. Also, Cammy was another small forward on a team full of them. It's not like the Habs gave up anything to get Cammy, so in reality they cleared cap space and got Bourque in return.
- golfingsince

4 million worth. Somehow this gets lost in leaf fans minds, cause they need it to in their hearts to believe the habs got rolled, and they didnt.
shinebox
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Feb 12 @ 8:24 PM ET
why don't you name a couple guys you think can be had on that list...and provide a price you think would be reasonable....
- Pen15

Why? i left that up to you leaf fans, let me know when the habs need a goalie.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:25 PM ET
4 million worth. Somehow this gets lost in leaf fans minds, cause they need it to in their hearts to believe the habs got rolled, and they didnt.
- shinebox

Hard to believe that people think that the Habs were robbed in that deal.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:25 PM ET
at least he showed up sometimes that at least is a step up from cammy, now you can get your kicks in if you think your right, cammy is the more talented player, no doubt, not like he is tearing it up on calgary now is he? How far apart are his and Bourques stats again? Bourque made the habs bigger up front as well.
- shinebox

bourque will do the same in montreal as he did in calgary...just watch.

at least cammy has shown he can put up numbers when he wants to. i'm confident you'll see a different player next season. don't ask me to quantify that...it's just a feeling. guys with that skill level don't usually stay down for long.
golfingsince
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Feb 12 @ 8:25 PM ET
why don't you name a couple guys you think can be had on that list...and provide a price you think would be reasonable....
- Pen15


4.5 for Backstrom would be very reasonable.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:27 PM ET
Why? i left that up to you leaf fans, let me know when the habs need a goalie.
- shinebox

because you're claiming the market for a decent backup goaltender at the trade deadline isn't that large....

i'd like you to quantify the 'not that large' part.

for example....what would nabokov take?
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:27 PM ET
Hard to believe that people think that the Habs were robbed in that deal.
- mr.peanut

Just hab haters cause they need to believe it to make themselves feel better about their teams issues.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:27 PM ET
4.5 for Backstrom would be very reasonable.
- golfingsince

and what would it cost us to trade for him at the deadline?
shinebox
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Feb 12 @ 8:27 PM ET
because you're claiming the market for a decent backup goaltender at the trade deadline isn't that large....

i'd like you to quantify the 'not that large' part.

for example....what would nabokov take?

- Pen15

Halak trade. Get back to me.
shinebox
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Feb 12 @ 8:27 PM ET
4.5 for Backstrom would be very reasonable.
- golfingsince

Yup.
pwm3312
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 04.08.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:28 PM ET
4 million worth. Somehow this gets lost in leaf fans minds, cause they need it to in their hearts to believe the habs got rolled, and they didnt.
- shinebox


agree, they didn't. But that deal was all about term. Money is about the same actually, however, after 2 seasons, the Flames can either let Cami walk or bring him back at Ollie money if can doesn't see 30g again.

The habs are stuck with Bourque for 4 more years... 2 years is enough to have you go bald, can't imagine having to watch him for 4.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:28 PM ET
Hard to believe that people think that the Habs were robbed in that deal.
- mr.peanut

in the long run, they were.

had they not REACTED to cammy's comments, they could've driven up his price and traded him at the deadline for way more than bourque.

keep in mind, cammy can be sold on the belief he's a great playoff performer.
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:28 PM ET
bourque will do the same in montreal as he did in calgary...just watch.

at least cammy has shown he can put up numbers when he wants to. i'm confident you'll see a different player next season. don't ask me to quantify that...it's just a feeling. guys with that skill level don't usually stay down for long.

- Pen15

Sure and Cammy will have more 80 point seasons, cause thats what you need to believe, like i said...
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:28 PM ET
Bryz for Tavares...
- Flyfreaky


Please do not give Garth Snow any ideas. I feel bad Tavares is stuck with these idiots. How he signed for 6 years I'll never know.
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:29 PM ET
in the long run, they were.

had they not REACTED to cammy's comments, they could've driven up his price and traded him at the deadline for way more than bourque.

keep in mind, cammy can be sold on the belief he's a great playoff performer.

- Pen15

7 million dollars, save 4, get it yet? Nope, still need to believe they got robbed?
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:29 PM ET
agree, they didn't. But that deal was all about term. Money is about the same actually, however, after 2 seasons, the Flames can either let Cami walk or bring him back at Ollie money if can doesn't see 30g again.

The habs are stuck with Bourque for 4 more years... 2 years is enough to have you go bald, can't imagine having to watch him for 4.

- pwm3312

is is true bourque was amongst the most inconsistent players on that roster? showed up when he wanted to?
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:30 PM ET
Sure and Cammy will have more 80 point seasons, cause thats what you need to believe, like i said...
- shinebox

that's more believable than bourque who has never had an 80pt season.
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