Wouldnt hate to see Colby armstrong or Mike Brown included in that deal as well.
- nickmo2699

Or even David Steckel.

My article coming out soon...I mention a recent interview on Sat. with Bowman.

Scotty says 25% of hockey is special teams...You can connect the dots...
- Al

Prediction:

Kitchen to go, Q to stay, some trade or trades will be made to add D. Hope to make the playoffs. If they make it in, it's a quick out in the first round.

No way Wirtz pays Q for two more years to watch his kid play midget hockey.

Or even David Steckel.
- John Jaeckel

Grabovski?

I WILL say this: Schenn might be worth McNeill or Saad. Man, would he help this team.
- John Jaeckel

Schenn was horrendous on Saturday night but one thing he brings is youth, physical play and toughness and a willingness to drop em if necessary. He wouldn't stand for watching his captain get abused and pushed around like most of the disgusting woosies on this current Hawks team do.

The opposition's game plan is obvious for all to see - pound on Toews before and after the whistle, the Hawks won't fight back. If changing that costs McNeill or Saad that's the price if you want to change things.

I don't think perceptually or in terms of actually getting the team back on track they can afford to wait much longer. Not saying it should be Q, that's up to them. But a significant shakeup is needed very soon.
- John Jaeckel

That was my conclusion...for a few reasons and $$ enters into play too.

They won't/can't stand pat.

They wait 10 -12 games even with marginal improvement and they're done. So say they go 4-6-2 in that time. Very possible (maybe at best). They are out of the playoffs. The teams below the hawks are all winning games. The Hawks need to turn it around like RIGHT NOW.
- John Jaeckel

Next 12 games: 8 on the road with wings (2), blues (2), preds, rangers, kings, and an improved Ducks club.... 4-6-2 is about the best we can expect that would make them 4-13-3 over since the break! OUCH!!

My guess is Burke likes Saad. He is a USNTDP kid and Burke LOVES those kids.

Schenn is a BEAST in his own end and not a bad two-way defenseman. He would be a very significant piece missing from the puzzle right now.
- John Jaeckel

I have heard a lot of Leaf fans complain about how slow he is though.

Next 12 games: 8 on the road with wings (2), blues (2), preds, rangers, kings, and an improved Ducks club.... 4-6-2 is about the best we can expect that would make them 4-13-3 over since the break! OUCH!!
- bogiedoc

And five of those six teams have shutdown goalies. Not good news.

Prediction:

Kitchen to go, Q to stay, some trade or trades will be made to add D. Hope to make the playoffs. If they make it in, it's a quick out in the first round.

No way Wirtz pays Q for two more years to watch his kid play midget hockey.
- Return of the Roar

That doesn't usually happen during the season....Toronto did it but that would be a huge slap to Q, and would indicate his time could be short...I bring up Kitchen and what might be a surprise to most Hawks fans.

Grabovski?
- Return of the Roar

I think that would warrant a significant NHL player in return. Love Grabo tho. So quick and has excellent vision. But again, not physical. We need those lunch pale players that are gunna bang and bruise other teams.

As fas as trade rumors with Toronto goes ...My gues is Burke would want Stalberg back...

The propsects JJ brought up might interesst other GM's more than Burke.

Grabovski?
- Return of the Roar

McNeill and Saad for Grabo and Schenn?

???????

Some might disagree,

I would do that deal right this second.

Mr. Kitchen I show you the door. I don't think Joel Quennville should lose his job over the way this stretch has gone. Its obvious his young captain is not 100 %, Marian Hossa hasn't played this poorly in his entire career and if someone would finish I could see Patrick Kane having five assists in the last two games. Its time Quennville throws Frolik, Bickell and his buddy Andrew Brunette in the press box, and replace them with the young desperation waiting in the abyss in Rockford. John Jaeckel the excellent hawks blogger on this site mentioned a few ice hogs that could bring the toughness and mobility that is missing in the hawk line up. In 2010, the hawks went through a difficult losing streak and later won the cup. In times such as these you look to your captain, or your role players to get the team back on track. With the health issues of Jonathan Toews I do not see a player that can do that on this team.
- nickmo2699

oh c'mon...that's just not true! Hossa was an MVP or Selke canidate at the all-star break. He has bee MIA the last 6! But, he had much long invisible stretches last year and the year before when probably playing hurt. And I am sure he bad periods with the Wings, Penguins and Senators

I think that would warrant a significant NHL player in return. Love Grabo tho. So quick and has excellent vision. But again, not physical. We need those lunch pale players that are gunna bang and bruise other teams.
- nickmo2699

He's the missing 2nd line C. Put him with Hoss and look out.

As fas as trade rumors with Toronto goes ...My gues is Burke would want Stalberg back...

The propsects JJ brought up might interesst other GM's more than Burke.
- Al

Take him and give us Grabovski and schenn and we will throw in Mcneil and Saad if Steckel or Armstrong comes our way as well.

I think that would warrant a significant NHL player in return. Love Grabo tho. So quick and has excellent vision. But again, not physical. We need those lunch pale players that are gunna bang and bruise other teams.
- nickmo2699

I could def see Grabo centering Hossa and Sharp on the second line as a huge upgrade.

Need to keep Stalberg though - he's the left side on the top line.

Meanwhile, Dale's Florida Panthers are in first place, have the SAME amount of points as the Hawks, with less talent, and by far the best crop of prospects in the pipeline.....just sayin'.....
- hawks2010

And let's see what Talon can do when he has to manage to a cap: he spent like crazy in Miami last summer because he had to to get over the floor - completely different animal if he has to get players while up against a ceiling. Hasn't had to do that yet, either in Chicago or Miami.

Jury is still out....

Next 12 games: 8 on the road with wings (2), blues (2), preds, rangers, kings, and an improved Ducks club.... 4-6-2 is about the best we can expect that would make them 4-13-3 over since the break! OUCH!!
- bogiedoc

The Blues, Rangers , Kings and Ducks will physically pound the Hawks. They better upgrade the roster. Again , they have the prospects and picks to acquire Physical D man help. The Hawks prospects might not be good enough to acquire top end talent but the Hawks should be able to get actually tougher , not pretend tougher.

As fas as trade rumors with Toronto goes ...My gues is Burke would want Stalberg back...

The propsects JJ brought up might interesst other GM's more than Burke.
- Al

Why more than Burke? I have no specific info. but Saad is the TYPE of kid Burke loves.

Listen, I have nothing but a random tweet to go on about this. i have heard osme vague scuttlebutt for a few weeks about the Hawks and Leafs talking. They have in th epast.

Would not surprise me terribly if they wanted Stalberg back based on his progression, but there is a reason they dealt him two years ago and that has not totally disappeared (questionable hockey sense, inconsistency).

I would consider also putting Bolland into a deal for Grabo/Schenn.

He's the missing 2nd line C. Put him with Hoss and look out.
- John Jaeckel

Kane-Toews-Sharp
Hossa-Grabovski-Kruger
Steckel-Bolland-Shaw
Bickell-Mayers-Frolik

Take him and give us Grabovski and schenn and we will throw in Mcneil and Saad if Steckel or Armstrong comes our way as well.
- nickmo2699

Colby Armstrong gets injured eating a piece of toast. Forget him.

Come on StanBow.. do something!

And let's see what Talon can do when he has to manage to a cap: he spent like crazy in Miami last summer because he had to to get over the floor - completely different animal if he has to get players while up against a ceiling. Hasn't had to do that yet, either in Chicago or Miami.

Jury is still out....
- StLBravesFan

If we could trade GM's with Florida, I would do it in a secondf.

If you go back to summer 2011 - most experts were giving Stan either an A or B+ for all the moves he made. I believe it's bad coaching / bad system that makes this team play soft, not inspired and lost. BTW not trying to protect SB, but IMO most of the blame should be on Q.
- Hawkswin

Not matter why they were acquired (or how they were evaluated originally), these players (O'D, Montador, Lepisto, throw Leddy in there) have skills that Q has not really used.

Why hasn't Montador been on the PK at all? Why hasn't Lepisto played (almost) at all? Why has Leddy not played 3rd pairing all year (could have covered partnering with Hjalmarsson with Montador, Lepisto, etc. - not a great solution, but better than throwing a kid to the wolves, both for the team and the kid)?

Why has Mayer been at center most of the time, instead of at wing, where he could have been even better than he's been? Why did Scott ever play over O'D, Lepisto?

The Hawks front office has been described as dysfunctional by some and maybe they are. I think in comparison if this regime is dysfunctional then what would we call the previous regime run by Dollar Bill and his sidekick Pully? That was a regime that traded away fan favorites and alienated players and fans alike and their only"goal" was to make the playoffs period. At least this group however they did it won a cup. The problems now IMO are squarely on Stan Bowman and Q. Bowman has not been able to add depth and the complementary players needed for the Hawks to give them the best chance to compete for the cup. If as it looks that Bowman is not the right GM than that's on McD for hiring him and firing Tallon. I'll give McD a pass for now on the marketing because the Hawks as a franchise was so of the radar that high school sports got move coverage than them. I won't give McD a pass if he is not capable of seeing that the Hawks need a HOCKEY GUY running the show instead of a bean counter. If McD needs to see how it's done he should look no further than his former employers who finally figured it out and hired Theo Epstein. If McD is smart he will go out and get the best HOCKEY GUY. That may be a big IF.
- jhawk159

It seems to me, that McD was brought in to put fans in the seats.. Just as he did when he was with the Cubs. I don't know how well this next idea would work...

Put Scotty Bowman in as the President. I never got the McD thing, winning fills the seats in this town, its not that hard of a formula to figure out.