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watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Feb 13 @ 12:19 PM ET
don't see you doing much
- 2Real

she atleast attends games in person on a consistent basis
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:54 PM ET
she atleast attends games in person on a consistent basis
- watsonnostaw

yawn
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Feb 13 @ 12:58 PM ET
yawn
- 2Real

basic facts are often uninspiring
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 13 @ 1:19 PM ET
basic facts are often uninspiring
- watsonnostaw

i watch more games then you
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 13 @ 1:20 PM ET
I have a problem with it, especially if he's going to be a spectator on the ice when the game winning goal is scored against the Flyers.
- MJL


Not sure if you'll see this given that there is a new thread, but I don't see how Kimmo was a spectator on the Franzen goal. He's battling along the wall, gets no help, and the puck goes to the point. In about a second it goes to Lidstrom to Franzen for the goal. Looked to me like Talbot should have had one of either Lidstrom or Franzen there. He's the center and should be covering the front of the net. There's no way anyone was going to get from the side boards to Franzen in time to keep him from making that play. I just watched the replay again and that's the way it looks to me anyway.

Again I think the issue on that play is that Flyers did not transition from the PK to full strength very well. Talbot was still acting like he was on the PK and playing the high slot/point. We didn't get back into our 5 on 5 defense fast enough to cover everyone, and the Wings took advantage. I just don't see how you call out Timonen on that play. Granted, he did not break to the front of the net immediately after he lost the puck battle, but I don't think it really mattered. The puck was in the net about two seconds after that battle was lost.

Oh well, they'll live to fight another day. I think this level of play is about where I expected the team to be this season anyway. Being competitive, but not consistently beating the top teams in the league. I think we are a year or two away from that level. At least I hope we are.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 13 @ 1:27 PM ET
i watch more games then you
- 2Real

Big Brother game shows count?
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Feb 13 @ 2:47 PM ET
Big Brother game shows count?
- Flyskippy

apparently
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 13 @ 3:38 PM ET
Not sure if you'll see this given that there is a new thread, but I don't see how Kimmo was a spectator on the Franzen goal. He's battling along the wall, gets no help, and the puck goes to the point. In about a second it goes to Lidstrom to Franzen for the goal. Looked to me like Talbot should have had one of either Lidstrom or Franzen there. He's the center and should be covering the front of the net. There's no way anyone was going to get from the side boards to Franzen in time to keep him from making that play. I just watched the replay again and that's the way it looks to me anyway.

Again I think the issue on that play is that Flyers did not transition from the PK to full strength very well. Talbot was still acting like he was on the PK and playing the high slot/point. We didn't get back into our 5 on 5 defense fast enough to cover everyone, and the Wings took advantage. I just don't see how you call out Timonen on that play. Granted, he did not break to the front of the net immediately after he lost the puck battle, but I don't think it really mattered. The puck was in the net about two seconds after that battle was lost.

Oh well, they'll live to fight another day. I think this level of play is about where I expected the team to be this season anyway. Being competitive, but not consistently beating the top teams in the league. I think we are a year or two away from that level. At least I hope we are.

- BringBack25


I agree that Talbot has to get down low and help out on that play, and he failed to do so. My initial reaction was what I originally posted. I think an argument can be made that Timonen was in man to man D zone coverage, and went up with his man. That's a common tactic to draw a defenseman away from the net. I thought that Timonen should have released his man and gone back to the net. But as you stated, Talbot was closer as the Center. That wasn't the only blown coverage by Talbot in the game either.
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