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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:37 PM ET
It truly is amazing how good Lidstrom is. He's always in the right position, every pass is right on the tape, guy is unreal. At 41 the best d-man in the League still.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 9:37 PM ET
i dont know if this is a good thing or a bad thing
- Slammed81


Good thing. Flyers are going to score here on the PP and tie this game up.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 9:38 PM ET
How so? Was he not standing next to Franzen just seconds before he scored? He left his man to do someone else's job. That's what too many of them are doing right now.
- rockychocbill


Talbot stopped on the backcheck, leaving Coburn to have to choose whether to cover Franzen or Lidstrom. Bad play all around.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 12 @ 9:38 PM ET
Or 2006-2007
- feelingkettle

(The Season That Shall Not Be Named)
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:38 PM ET
Shenn doesn't have a half bad shot from the point. Don't want a rookie back there on the PP vs. detroit, but maybe Lavi should file that away and have the young man work on that.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 12 @ 9:39 PM ET
Didn't watch much from 1990 - 1994?
- Flyskippy


fortunately i was in college for that time period. vermont. espn2 was just born and not much hockey to be had other than HNIC. i focused a lot on the canucks at that point because i could watch a lot of their games on the weekend. very hard to follow the flyers from afar then.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 12 @ 9:39 PM ET
It truly is amazing how good Lidstrom is. He's always in the right position, every pass is right on the tape, guy is unreal. At 41 the best d-man in the League still.
- PLindbergh31

Dear PLindpergh31,

Wait...what?

Yours truly,
Shea Weber
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 12 @ 9:39 PM ET
He can't just leave his man in front of the net and go to the puck. If he was worth covering by Coburn the first time around he is still worth covering.
- PT21


and if he allows the shot everyone calls him worthless for not making a play. bottom line is what happened that led to the breakdown leaving him alone down low against two guys
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 12 @ 9:39 PM ET
some great hands by simmonds there. better save by macdonald.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:40 PM ET

Dear PLindpergh31,

Wait...what?

Yours truly,
Shea Weber

- Giroux_Is_God


Lidstrom is still better right now.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Feb 12 @ 9:40 PM ET
i'm so sick of defenders leaving an opposing player one on one with the goalie.
People wonder why the goalies look so bad.
I'm so GD angry at this defensive squad right now. The only guy you can't blame for that last goal was Kimmo. But hey, what do you expect when you leave Bob alone on an island with a guy like Franzen less than 3 feet away from him.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:41 PM ET
some great hands by simmonds there. better save by macdonald.
- hammarby31


Got to be able to beat a career AHL'er from the slot there.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 9:41 PM ET
Shenn doesn't have a half bad shot from the point. Don't want a rookie back there on the PP vs. detroit, but maybe Lavi should file that away and have the young man work on that.
- Lexington Flyer


Hell, maybe Schenn can move to defense and they can bump Couturier up to play with good players, and not Fantasy Camp, Shelley and Zac Attack and send MAB back to ADK
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 12 @ 9:41 PM ET
maybe so but he was left alone down low on a 2 on 1 while Timonen was along the boards standing there staring at the point. Just annoys the (frank) out of me that everyone jumps on him when he wasn't the cause
- nastyflyergirl


Like I said above, the problems started when nobody came to help Timonen along the wall. Wings outnumbered him and won the puck. After that it was tic tac toe to the point, to Lidstrom, to Franzen.

At that point Coburn was doomed. He had two men to cover. If he stayed on Franzen, Lidstrom is wide open. He chose to move to Lidstrom, who made him pay. End of story.

Can't really fault Timonen or Cobrun on that play. Whoever the forwards were on the ice need to recognize they're at full strength and help win that puck on the wall.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 12 @ 9:41 PM ET
Wow, big save there on a major Detroit breakdown. See the goalie is allowed to come up with one. Sigh.[/img]
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 12 @ 9:42 PM ET
God damnit Simmer is such a strong mother (frank)er
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:42 PM ET
i'm so sick of defenders leaving an opposing player one on one with the goalie.
People wonder why the goalies look so bad.
I'm so GD angry at this defensive squad right now. The only guy you can't blame for that last goal was Kimmo. But hey, what do you expect when you leave Bob alone on an island with a guy like Franzen less than 3 feet away from him.

- the deaninator


Simmonds was just one on one with an AHL goalie from right in the slot. No rule against the goaltender making a save once in a while.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 9:42 PM ET
Hell, maybe Schenn can move to defense and they can bump Couturier up to play with good players, and not Fantasy Camp, Shelley and Zac Attack and send MAB back to ADK
- Jsaquella


No need to panic. Flyers are just fine. Going to tie this game up shortly.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 12 @ 9:42 PM ET
Flyers have most PP goals in NHL? Wouldn't know it from the fanbase.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:43 PM ET
Meszaros with his best Bourdon't impersonation.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 12 @ 9:43 PM ET
God damnit Simmer is such a strong mother (frank)er
- mochoson

Even though he's got anorexic legs...
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 12 @ 9:43 PM ET
Like I said above, the problems started when nobody came to help Timonen along the wall. Wings outnumbered him and won the puck. After that it was tic tac toe to the point, to Lidstrom, to Franzen.

At that point Coburn was doomed. He had two men to cover. If he stayed on Franzen, Lidstrom is wide open. He chose to move to Lidstrom, who made him pay. End of story.

Can't really fault Timonen or Cobrun on that play. Whoever the forwards were on the ice need to recognize they're at full strength and help win that puck on the wall.

- BringBack25



I won't claim to play the same system as the Flyers but I know the system we play its my job as the center to rotate down and pick up the dman's positon on that play
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Feb 12 @ 9:43 PM ET
Simmonds was just one on one with a AHL goalie from right in the slot. No rule against the goaltender making a save once in a while.
- PLindbergh31


Blaming the goalie is easy. How many times in the last two games alone has someone scored with nobody within arms reach of the guy? If the goalie is so unbelievably bad, then play better defense and don't let guys get free shots every other shift.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:44 PM ET
maybe so but he was left alone down low on a 2 on 1 while Timonen was along the boards standing there staring at the point. Just annoys the (frank) out of me that everyone jumps on him when he wasn't the cause
- nastyflyergirl



He may not have been responsible for the (frank)up but he hardly showed good judgement when placed in it.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Feb 12 @ 9:45 PM ET
And the wings are getting blahblahblah much closer to history. STFU We get it announcer!!!!!
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