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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:36 PM ET
The Rangers are fantastic in the slot in both ends of the ice.
- Jsaquella


A good amount of that has to be coaching. The Rags defense isn't overly physical. A lot of it is being sound positionally.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:37 PM ET
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 12 @ 8:37 PM ET
Ugh....
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:38 PM ET

- Yosimar89


WOW.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:38 PM ET
Clean hit by Kronwall, glad nobody felt the need to take a retaliation penalty.

Damn...Jagr has to bury that.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:38 PM ET
Wow and Wow. How did that puck stay out of the net, and how did they not need a spatula to scrape Briere off the ice.
SeaIslelandLush
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.28.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:38 PM ET
This is a tough one. I like you understand that he lacks the physical attributes to win physical battles. My only complaint is when he lacks effort in the defensive end, and simply coasts or just fails to pay attention to the detail needed defensively. The thing is that with the offensive output he gives in the playoffs, offsets the negative defensive aspects. Now if he doesn't produce as he has in the past in the playoffs, then there would be a big issue. An argument can be made that it's tough to win like that. With having a key player not having a two way game. Especially for a Center
- MJL


Its why I have trouble with it too. I like the guy, he seems like a real honest player and person. But...it frustrates me to no end when I see Simmonds and Schenn working their tail off in the offensive zone and then there's Briere, waiting behind the net just expecting the other two forwards to do all the work.

And here again, he's not going to win many battles on the boards and maybe its a set design for him to 'hide' away from the play, but when Bill talks about every player being on board with playing the gamed completely on board with each other while playing both ends of the ice, I think of Briere.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:38 PM ET
Shiiizzz just got real son.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:39 PM ET
Wow and Wow. How did that puck stay out of the net, and how did they not need a spatula to scrape Briere off the ice.
- PLindbergh31


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 8:39 PM ET
A good amount that has to be coaching. The Rags defense isn't overly physical. A lot of it is being sound positionally.
- PLindbergh31


Part of it may be coaching, but you also have to have physical courage and good discipline to be good at it. Guys like Kerr and LeClair were so dominant because they couldn't be riled easily. Guys would get away with murder on those two, and they'd usually turn that into a goal.

When the Flyers get traffic in front, it's flowing and moving, but not usually an effective screen and definitely not very effective at deflections.

In their own end, sometimes it just seems they're too timid of taking a possible penalty or something.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 8:40 PM ET
Schennagain
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:40 PM ET
SUCK IT female dogES
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:40 PM ET
Schenns (frank)ing animal!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:40 PM ET
Shiiizzz just got real son.
- Yosimar89


Schenn again.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:40 PM ET
Schennagain
- Jsaquella

Bust...TRADE...HIM
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:40 PM ET
Schenn 2 Shine!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:40 PM ET
suck on that, detroit.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:40 PM ET
Double Redemp-Schenn.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:41 PM ET
suck on that, detroit.
- hammarby31

Bob should get ready for the hell that's about to come his way.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:41 PM ET
Double Redemp-Schenn.

- BringBack25


How long have you been holding onto that nugget ?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:41 PM ET
Schenn g counts the future awesome
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:41 PM ET
Clean hit by Kronwall, glad nobody felt the need to take a retaliation penalty.

Damn...Jagr has to bury that.

- BringBack25


jagr looks like he'll never score another goal ever.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:41 PM ET
Bob should get ready for the hell that's about to come his way.
- Yosimar89


the flyers d should get ready.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:42 PM ET
Part of it may be coaching, but you also have to have physical courage and good discipline to be good at it. Guys like Kerr and LeClair were so dominant because they couldn't be riled easily. Guys would get away with murder on those two, and they'd usually turn that into a goal.

When the Flyers get traffic in front, it's flowing and moving, but not usually an effective screen and definitely not very effective at deflections.

In their own end, sometimes it just seems they're too timid of taking a possible penalty or something.

- Jsaquella


Agreed. Guys like Meszy and Coburn are big enough and physical enough to be much better at doing just that.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:42 PM ET
How long have you been holding onto that nugget ?
- ob18


I'll never tell.
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