Myers could certainly be the 'do-it-all' type by that point.
- robin_steele264

Schenn's offense improves year after year. He could be too... he's also by far the more physical player.

The reason those 49 shots looked so harmless is because Reimer was practically flawless. No rebounds. No second chances for Ottawa shooters. Nothing to shoot at.

What about the Pittsburgh game before that? A 1-0 win. Hardly any goal support, and he needed to be perfect to give his team a chance to win. 25 saves.

Last week, he was 3-0-0 with a 1.00 GAA and 0.971 Sv% with 104 shots faced. 2 shutouts. NHL's third star of the week.

This week, he's 0-2-0 with a couple rough starts. Let's not forget that he did face 39 shots in Philly.

Answer me this: Why are the past two games more indicative of what he could do "at his best" than the 3 games before that?

You're using a very small sampling of Reimer at his worst to decide what he will be at his best. It's lunacy. Howard Berger makes more sense than you, for crying out loud.
- Leeman4Gilmour

He has more crappy games than really good games

Neither Reimer or Gus is a true number one.....but I think Gus has been more consistent this year

Schenn's offense improves year after year. He could be too... he's also by far the more physical player.
- Feeling Glucky?

Meh, I think Schenn can turn into a real solid 2nd pairing shutdown type.

Myers could be a true, blue chip #1... when he fills out he's gonna be a monster.


Just the way I see it.

Chara didnt become all-world till he hit 30 or so.

Lidstrom still hasnt peaked.
- robin_steele264

lidstrom should play for another 10 years and break howe's oldest player record .. i honestly think he could if he wanted to

but he's young and inconsistant, and apparantley that makes him a bust
- Dozzer

Sorry but speed isn't a over night fix. It will take him a few years of off season conditioning and some technique changes to get that sorted out. He may never be much faster. Some players just don't have it. Sedins have been working constantly over the past 5 summers on there skating and they are just slightly improving.

Schenn is a solid defender... I put him in the 2nd/3rd pairing role.... 15-18 minutes a night. He is young and could become a superstar... but if I were to put money on him I would say that is where he tops out at. He doesn't seem to have amazing hockey sense... but something that could get better with time.

Myers is a much more safe bet... he is still a question mark... but if I were take any 3 of those guys based on an all around game.. its Myers... purely offensive... hands down Karlsson... and as a shut down type it would be a toss up of Schenn and Myers. IMO
- kneughter

In Schenn's case, he slowed down from last season, because of his work-out plan this offseason. It's not about getting him faster than what he's shown, it's about getting him back to where he was... and then worrying about getting him faster. Also worth noting, Tavares' speed has improved massively in one season. Same with Stamkos earlier in his career. Grabovski's also sped up this last season, to the point where he's right up there with Kessel some nights.

Some guys, it's true, can't improve their speed. Some guys take time, and some guys just can't do it. We know Schenn is capable of more speed, because he's done it before.

If we're talking shut-down hockey, neither Myers, not Karlsson holds a candle to Schenn. And his potential is still that of a top-pairing shut-down guy. By no means is he only a 3rd pairing d-man.

Meh, I think Schenn can turn into a real solid 2nd pairing shutdown type.

Myers could be a true, blue chip #1... when he fills out he's gonna be a monster.


Just the way I see it.
- robin_steele264

Myers could be, but these last 2 seasons he's shown less of that ability. He's regressed from his awesome rookie season. One year was a sophmore slump, and this year he got hurt. He's still got to prove that his rookie season wasn't a one-off affair.

In Schenn's case, he slowed down from last season, because of his work-out plan this offseason. It's not about getting him faster than what he's shown, it's about getting him back to where he was... and then worrying about getting him faster. Also worth noting, Tavares' speed has improved massively in one season. Same with Stamkos earlier in his career. Grabovski's also sped up this last season, to the point where he's right up there with Kessel some nights.

Some guys, it's true, can't improve their speed. Some guys take time, and some guys just can't do it. We know Schenn is capable of more speed, because he's done it before.

If we're talking shut-down hockey, neither Myers, not Karlsson holds a candle to Schenn. And his potential is still that of a top-pairing shut-down guy. By no means is he only a 3rd pairing d-man.

- Feeling Glucky?

Schenn's offense improves year after year. He could be too... he's also by far the more physical player.
- Feeling Glucky?

Let's not forget we have a young Keith Aulie

A 'poor man's Myers'

6'5''

Can skate, and if only he could recapture what he and Dion had last year he's actually make Dion easier to bear.

- faceto27

Let's not forget we have a young Keith Aulie

A 'poor man's Myers'

6'5''

Can skate, and if only he could recapture what he and Dion had last year he's actually make Dion easier to bear.
- AngryWhiteMale

"make dion easier to bear"?

Aulie has 0 offensive prowess, and has lost a step the same way Schenn has this season. He could skate, last year, it's true. But this season, he's been crap with the Leafs.

He's nothing like Myers, outside of size.

The only thing correct about this post is that it'd be nice if he could get back to the way he was playing last season. But you don't even have his height right.

edit: a "young Keith Aulie" is actually a few months older than Schenn.

Myers could be, but these last 2 seasons he's shown less of that ability. He's regressed from his awesome rookie season. One year was a sophmore slump, and this year he got hurt. He's still got to prove that his rookie season wasn't a one-off affair.
- Feeling Glucky?

He's gotta put it all together... but with a frame like that, man he can dominate the league for years.

"make dion easier to bear"?

Aulie has 0 offensive prowess, and has lost a step the same way Schenn has this season. He could skate, last year, it's true. But this season, he's been crap with the Leafs.

He's nothing like Myers, outside of size.

The only thing correct about this post is that it'd be nice if he could get back to the way he was playing last season. But you don't even have his height right.

edit: a "young Keith Aulie" is actually a few months older than Schenn.
- Feeling Glucky?

in fairness that depends on where you look, some sites list him as 6'-6" but a site like sportsnet for example has him at 6'-5"

He's gotta put it all together... but with a frame like that, man he can dominate the league for years.
- robin_steele264

Sounds like Boris Valabik, he's tall therefor NEXT CHARA

He's gotta put it all together... but with a frame like that, man he can dominate the league for years.
- robin_steele264

I remember a forward who was fast, had a huge frame, powerful shot, and loved to hit. If he could put all those skills together, he could have been a top line powerforward... which is why he was drafted 4th overall. Now he's a firefighter.

That's why, until they put it all together for a few seasons, we can only talk about their potential... can't see it as a given.

Sounds like Boris Valabik, he's tall therefor NEXT CHARA
- AdamFrench

We've seen glimpses from Myers already.

Who?

We've seen glimpses from Myers already.

Who?
- robin_steele264

Kilger showed flashes, too.


I miss Kilger.

The only thing correct about this post is that it'd be nice if he could get back to the way he was playing last season. But you don't even have his height right.

edit: a "young Keith Aulie" is actually a few months older than Schenn.
- Feeling Glucky?

Ah yes, a young Keith Aulie that we gave nothing to get, as opposed to .

Yes, my point was about his having the steadying influence that he did last season. It's unfortunate that Gunnarsson hasn't been able to be that man, as he has been excellent so far this season.

No use in yaking on about Tyler Myers. Our blueline is set, once we dump Komi's cap hit, that is, and lock up Franson.

Let's just worry about getting a complimentary partner for Dion that allows him to look as good as Markov made Komi look before we gave him 4.5m per to be a turd that handles a puck like a hot potato

Kilger showed flashes, too.


I miss Kilger.
- Feeling Glucky?

I miss Gary Roberts

He has more crappy games than really good games

Neither Reimer or Gus is a true number one.....but I think Gus has been more consistent this year
- faceto27

This is just false.

Or did last season's 30+ games not count?

I miss Gary Roberts
- AngryWhiteMale

I miss them all.

remember 60-point McCabe and Kaberle, who could play top PP AND PK minutes?

Ah yes, a young Keith Aulie that we gave nothing to get, as opposed to .

Yes, my point was about his having the steadying influence that he did last season. It's unfortunate that Gunnarsson hasn't been able to be that man, as he has been excellent so far this season.

No use in yaking on about Tyler Myers. Our blueline is set, once we dump Komi's cap hit, that is, and lock up Franson.

Let's just worry about getting a complimentary partner for Dion that allows him to look as good as Markov made Komi look before we gave him 4.5m per to be a turd that handles a puck like a hot potato
- AngryWhiteMale

Phaneuf looks good with just about anybody this season.

http://www.theglobeandmai...ing-leafs/article2335373/

There was much for Ron Wilson to be unhappy about Saturday night but given the number of times he mentioned Carey Price by name both when prompted and unprompted and the manner in which he laid the unravelling of his team squarely on events after a first goal that was “stoppable,” it was clear where most of the blame lied.

That only reinforced the notion laid down in the Toronto Maple Leafs dressing room. There was James Reimer, finished his media responsibilities, still in his skates – head held in his hands.

Awesome coaching FTW.

I miss them all.

remember 60-point McCabe and Kaberle, who could play top PP AND PK minutes?


- Feeling Glucky?

Don't talk about that...Mccabe had one good year, once other teams figured him out he was neutralized.

If RW gets canned, bring back Pat Quinn. Leave it to the Irish to come in and instill an offensive-minded system that this young, fast team will thrive upon.

Now, of course, those young teams we reliant on goaltending we don't have, but our defense is in better position than it was under Pat

This is just false.

Or did last season's 30+ games not count?
- Leeman4Gilmour

They don't count this year now do they