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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 10:53 AM ET
What?

I hope this is a joke.

- Blackstrom2


How is it a joke? If they had no Cap space how did they sign Jagr? Why didn't they just add another Rookie?
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Feb 12 @ 10:55 AM ET
How is it a joke? If they had no Cap space how did they sign Jagr? Why didn't they just add another Rookie?
- MJL


Do you think I magically not include free agents signed that year as part of their cap situation? Do you think I calculate team's cap space before all of their pre-season signings?

At this point, we're talking past each other.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 10:59 AM ET
Do you think I magically not include free agents signed that year as part of their cap situation? Do you think I calculate team's cap space before all of their pre-season signings?

At this point, we're talking past each other.

- Blackstrom2


I think there are a lot of factors you didn't consider before making the statement that the only reason the Flyers have so many rookies is because that's all they could squeeze in.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
You understand it to the point of changing your team's Cup or bust mentality to a retool to conveniently temper your expectations of the season. It's just funny reading the comments here. Okay, it was a retool. It still doesn't change the fact you guys were and still are Cup contenders. You moved salary into the goalie spot and allocated the rest into Voracek and Simmonds. You had no cap space, and were forced to roll rookies on opening night. You signed Jagr. lol. It's just funny to see the spin...especially when you guys aren't even doing that bad.

I know this may be a difficult concept, but it is possible to follow the intricacies of more than one team of a sport. If you disagree, that's fine, but there are Flyer fans here who agree with me. So.

- Blackstrom2


Look, by definition when you change as many parts of a team as the Flyers did this past off-season, you're retooling. That doesn't mean you don't hope for the best however.

Nobody knew how Jagr would perform, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing him into the conversation. As to why he signed with the Flyers, who can say? I'm sure money had a bit to do with it, but I'm also guessing it's because the Flyers are an organization he's very familiar with, albeit as the competition.

I guess it boils down to the fact that retooling and being competitive, going for the cup, aren't mutually exclusive, but one makes the other that much harder.

Sure, we might have used 1 or 2 rookies due to cap considerations, but we've played with 6 rookies in the lineup night in, night out for months. That's not a cap problem, that's an injury and replacement availability problem.

Of course you can keep track of multiple teams if you want, more power to you...
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