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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 10 @ 10:42 AM ET
If im Carter I dont want a NTC anyways, who the hell wants to be stuck in Columbus.
- stveshdy

Yeah, regardless of whether or not it was ever voided that baby was waived the second he found out where he was going.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 10 @ 10:43 AM ET
What about grossman and gill? i like that pairing
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 10 @ 10:45 AM ET

- BulliesPhan87

I see what you did there...
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 10 @ 10:46 AM ET
What about grossman and gill? i like that pairing
- Deasr1

Grossman may be expensive and thats even if Dallas falls out of the playoff race. That team is just getting healthy so I would assume their going to try and make a push (only two points out).
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 10 @ 10:48 AM ET
Did a quick back read scan. Surprised not to see any chatter about the Dominic Moore hit on Fedetenko last night. That to me should be an automatic 10 games. And what the Seravalli was the back official watching to only hand out a 2 min. minor for roughing on that play? Donkey clowns.

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...enko-video-142039657.html

- rockychocbill

Ouch. Is it just me or has officiating just been terrible league wide this year?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 10 @ 10:51 AM ET
Grossman may be expensive and thats even if Dallas falls out of the playoff race. That team is just getting healthy so I would assume their going to try and make a push.
- stveshdy


Souray just went down (again) last night and Morrow remains out with a neck/shoulder injury. I'm not liking their chances of putting together a successful push for the playoffs this year. They've been in a one-step-forward-one-step-back holding pattern for awhile now.

The Stars have been trying to negotiate an extension with Grossman. If they can't get it done, I do think he'll be moved at the deadline and would be a nice fit with Carle if he were to come here.

rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 10:51 AM ET
Ouch. Is it just me or has officiating just been terrible league wide this year?
- hereticpride


It's not just you.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 10 @ 10:53 AM ET
Souray just went down (again) last night and Morrow remains out with a neck/shoulder injury. I'm not liking their chances of putting together a successful push for the playoffs this year. They've been in a one-step-forward-one-step-back holding pattern for awhile now.

The Stars have been trying to negotiate an extension with Grossman. If they can't get it done, I do think he'll be moved at the deadline and would be a nice fit with Carle if he were to come here.

- bmeltzer

Bill, what are the chances that we could get both gill and grossman? Would it be enough to give us a shot
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
i dont think we do anything at the deadline, i dont see any upgrades over what we have..

im the first to say our d needs overhauled, but it wont be addressed till summer imo.

luke schenn is okay, but not worth jvr...schenn showed me nothing last night and jvr is still very young and has had health issues this year and will be a force once he gets back on the horse.

not interested in gill, jack johnson....nobody gets my attention execept for weber/suter, so unless we can get 1 of those i hope we stay put.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 10 @ 10:57 AM ET
Did a quick back read scan. Surprised not to see any chatter about the Dominic Moore hit on Fedetenko last night. That to me should be an automatic 10 games. And what the Seravalli was the back official watching to only hand out a 2 min. minor for roughing on that play? Donkey clowns.

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...enko-video-142039657.html

- rockychocbill


Fedetenko won't be able to score the empty net goal tomorrow.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 10:57 AM ET
My take on Rumors:

IMO I think acquiring some young defenseman is important. Either Johnson or Schenn, or Both. The reason is our defense is getting older, and no-one other then Timonen is stepping up. And next season is Timonen's last, so some kind of youthful replacements have to be in place.

We are covered on goalies. And we have a lot of offensive depth. We can trade some offense to fill our defense. Economically speaking, it is cheaper and easier to sign forwards to fill gaps then it is defenseman.

I think the Flyers should Consider trading for both, and if not trade for one and try and get Gill.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 10 @ 10:58 AM ET
What about grossman and gill? i like that pairing
- Deasr1


i wouldn't give up more than a quarter for gill at this point. old, slow, plays against crappy competition, and mtl still gives up a ton of shots when he's out there.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 10 @ 10:58 AM ET
Souray just went down (again) last night and Morrow remains out with a neck/shoulder injury. I'm not liking their chances of putting together a successful push for the playoffs this year. They've been in a one-step-forward-one-step-back holding pattern for awhile now.

The Stars have been trying to negotiate an extension with Grossman. If they can't get it done, I do think he'll be moved at the deadline and would be a nice fit with Carle if he were to come here.

- bmeltzer


Didnt know Souray got hurt last night. I still think they have a legit chance at making the playoffs. They have two games in hand to Phoenix and only trail by two points. Morrow is suppose to be back this weekend (unless the reports are wrong). If Grossman becomes available it would be a nice add for the Flyers. You would definately know more than me about the Stars cause you cover them but I still think with a healthy Benn that team is going to make the playoffs. What kind of deal is Grossman looking for from Dallas (yrs/money)?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 10:59 AM ET
i dont think we do anything at the deadline, i dont see any upgrades over what we have..

im the first to say our d needs overhauled, but it wont be addressed till summer imo.

luke schenn is okay, but not worth jvr...schenn showed me nothing last night and jvr is still very young and has had health issues this year and will be a force once he gets back on the horse.

not interested in gill, jack johnson....nobody gets my attention execept for weber/suter, so unless we can get 1 of those i hope we stay put.

- mydoglicks


What if you could get L.Scehnn for Voracek and MAB? Would you do it then?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:00 AM ET
Bill, what are the chances that we could get both gill and grossman? Would it be enough to give us a shot
- Deasr1


I think it'd be one or the other.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:00 AM ET
i dont think we do anything at the deadline, i dont see any upgrades over what we have..

im the first to say our d needs overhauled, but it wont be addressed till summer imo.

luke schenn is okay, but not worth jvr...schenn showed me nothing last night and jvr is still very young and has had health issues this year and will be a force once he gets back on the horse.

not interested in gill, jack johnson....nobody gets my attention execept for weber/suter, so unless we can get 1 of those i hope we stay put.

- mydoglicks


You might be right. I actually hope you are. No trade puts this team over the hump this year, might as well stand pat with the youth and picks and make a run at Suter in the summer. Johnson is a nice PP player, but he's a specialist. He would improve the PP, but he wouldn't help the Flyers shortcomings when it comes to defensive zone coverage.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 10 @ 11:03 AM ET
You might bet right. I actually hope you are. No trade puts this team over the hump this year, might as well stand pat with the youth and picks and make a run at Suter in the summer. Johnson is a nice PP player, but he's a specialist. He would improve the PP, but he wouldn't help the Flyers shortcomings when it comes to defensive zone coverage.
- PLindbergh31


I know there is noway the Flyers could get him but I would love for them to try and acquire Yandle from Phoenix. He is a big guy who could fill the shoes of a number one guy. This would take some creativity over the summer but I wish their was a way to get him. I would put this possibility at about 0-5%.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:03 AM ET
My take on Rumors:
I think the Flyers should Consider trading for both, and if not trade for one and try and get Gill.

- RooNosHockey

Depends on where Carle is at money wise but I would not be opposed to two trades for young D men if the prices are right. That said they sound nowhere near a fair price on L Schenn. I'd be ok with JJ for a 1st and prospect as long as we're not talking about Voracek or Coots or the like as the prospect.

Honestly I think they should grab JJ now if that's the price then after the season see where Carle is at. Try to get him back under at a fair price if not start looking elsewhere
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:03 AM ET
Fedetenko won't be able to score the empty net goal tomorrow.
- PLindbergh31


I've never been a Rusty fan, but that was just a ridonkulous move on Moore's part. I know he's not known as a dirty player, but Shanahan needs to send a message here. Anything less than 10 games for that is weak imo.

Bourque got 5 games for his nonsense on Backstrom and NB still hasn't played a game since. It has affected the whole Caps team.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 10 @ 11:04 AM ET
I think it'd be one or the other.
- bmeltzer

I still think we need 2 d men and a vet scoring winger. Just too many rookies. I love the youth and talent. Just think 8 rookies is way too much for this and next year.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
You might bet right. I actually hope you are. No trade puts this team over the hump this year, might as well stand pat with the youth and picks and make a run at Suter in the summer. Johnson is a nice PP player, but he's a specialist. He would improve the PP, but he wouldn't help the Flyers shortcomings when it comes to defensive zone coverage.
- PLindbergh31

With Carle leaving, and Timonen only has 1 year left... Flyers are in need of a puck mover, and someone young that doesnt cost too much. Johnson might be a good fit here, especially if he could learn from someone like Timonen.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
i wouldn't give up more than a quarter for gill at this point. old, slow, plays against crappy competition, and mtl still gives up a ton of shots when he's out there.
- OrangeBlack27


Agreed.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:06 AM ET
I know there is noway the Flyers could get him but I would love for them to try and acquire Yandle from Phoenix. He is a big guy who could fill the shoes of a number one guy. This would take some creativity over the summer but I wish their was a way to get him. I would put this possibility at about 0-5%.
- stveshdy


I like Yandle. A lot of people seem to think he's not good in his own end, all the games I have seen him play he's been very solid overall. He's a fantastic skater, maybe the best skating d-man in the League. I think his price tag would be pretty high if he were even available.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:07 AM ET
I still think we need 2 d men and a vet scoring winger. Just too many rookies. I love the youth and talent. Just think 8 rookies is way too much for this and next year.
- Deasr1

Can you say Ray Whitney?

Guy is having an amazing year out of nowhere.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:07 AM ET
I've never been a Rusty fan, but that was just a ridonkulous move on Moore's part. I know he's not known as a dirty player, but Shanahan needs to send a message here. Anything less than 10 games for that is weak imo.

Bourque got 5 games for his nonsense on Backstrom and NB still hasn't played a game since. It has affected the whole Caps team.

- rockychocbill


That was a bush league move by Moore. Who isn't that type of player. No chance he gets 10 games. I think he will get 3.
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