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RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 1:10 PM ET
I'm pretty sure Carle contributes to this team being high scoring, not benefitting from it.
- funmaster18


I'm not saying he doesn't... Dont put words in my mouth...lol I'm just saying that you can post numbers till your blue in the face, doesn't mean the numbers are telling the WHOLE story.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:10 PM ET
Hartnell will be on WIP during 3 pm hour. I may be at lunch...so there may not be a transcript.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
oh ok gotcha
- OrangeBlack27

you are a cold hearted bro
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
Facts can be misleading when someone takes them out of context....

Example:

Columbus discovered America in 1492... Fact

Person's Conclusion... America was discovered in 1492... False!

- RooNosHockey


I don't know how to respond to this.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 10 @ 1:13 PM ET
I'm not saying he doesn't... Dont put words in my mouth...lol I'm just saying that you can post numbers till your blue in the face, doesn't mean the numbers are telling the WHOLE story.
- RooNosHockey


The debate was is he offensive and the answer is yes. Though he's not THE TOP scoring defenseman out there.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
Fedotenko out, Rangers going with 7 D tomorrow according to LBrooks.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
The debate was is he offensive and the answer is yes. Though he's not THE TOP scoring defenseman out there.
- funmaster18


Some people here find him very offensive.
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
Isn't that why we have Gustafsson? Same ceiling?
- bradleyc4


I see Voynov as having a much higher ceiling
Flyer_Nation71
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Your sister's house
Joined: 11.15.2010

Feb 10 @ 1:15 PM ET
Berry's latest blog

jesus

- 2Real



He's very entertaining...I dig him.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 1:15 PM ET
Carle contributes greatly to the team being a top offensive team. His ability to move the puck and make plays is a great asset to the team, and it's scoring ability. Carle would be a top defenseman available in free agency regardless of who else is available. Carle is far better then just slightly above average. And what he's going to get paid has nothing to do with being lucky in the year he went to UFA. It has to do with how good of a player he is.
- MJL


Carle is a nice player. But he is not a Number 1 D-man, and really isnt a true Number 2 either, IMO. If Carle is as good as you say, and so valuable to the team, then why arent the FLyers doing everything they can to try and resign him?

And Yes the Free Agent market does determine how much players get paid. Its called Supply and Demand. Because there is a Large demand, and Little Supply, Carle will get much more then he would in other years...
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
I don't really considering it defending the player. More like just putting the facts out there and letting them stand on their own merit.
- MJL


True enough. Lot's of folks, myself included, get carried away on an emotional level at times. A dose of reality is often needed.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
Hartnell will be on WIP during 3 pm hour. I may be at lunch...so there may not be a transcript.
- bodiva88


In other words at 3, all heck can break loose and BO wont be here to stop it.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
He's such a joke. Making things up out of thin air is supposed to be the bailiwick of basement bloggers. But there are bloggers out there (and here) with higher standards of journalistic integrity than that dogpack.
- bodiva88



dogpack
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 1:17 PM ET
Hartnell will be on WIP during 3 pm hour. I may be at lunch...so there may not be a transcript.
- bodiva88


Suck it Phanuef.
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 10 @ 1:17 PM ET
Fedotenko out, Rangers going with 7 D tomorrow according to LBrooks.
- bodiva88


well that's one guaranteed goal out of the lineup so that's something.

Would the 7th dman be Eminger? If it is you know whats going to happen besides him getting burned by the Flyers a few times
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:18 PM ET
In other words at 3, all heck can break loose and BO wont be here to stop it.
- RooNosHockey

Other mods are lurking. There's a new guy just itching for his first bans.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 10 @ 1:18 PM ET
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN
Bryz is out there, too

Chris Therien @ctherien6
@tpanotchCSN is he or isn't he!? Its not like its a tough thing to tell

Flyskippy Zudrak @FlySkippyZudrak
@ctherien6 @tpanotchCSN LOL! If there are more goalies than nets, Bryz is there.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:19 PM ET
dogpack
- nastyflyergirl

The visual of guys eating trash and sniffing each others junk just paints the picture.
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 10 @ 1:20 PM ET
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN
Bryz is out there, too

Chris Therien @ctherien6
@tpanotchCSN is he or isn't he!? Its not like its a tough thing to tell

Flyskippy Zudrak @FlySkippyZudrak
@ctherien6 @tpanotchCSN LOL! If there are more goalies than nets, Bryz is there.

- Flyskippy


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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:20 PM ET
Carle is a nice player. But he is not a Number 1 D-man, and really isnt a true Number 2 either, IMO. If Carle is as good as you say, and so valuable to the team, then why arent the FLyers doing everything they can to try and resign him?

And Yes the Free Agent market does determine how much players get paid. Its called Supply and Demand. Because there is a Large demand, and Little Supply, Carle will get much more then he would in other years...

- RooNosHockey



He's definitely a #2. How do you know the Flyers aren't doing everything they can to sign him? If you follow the UFA market, it is not just based in supply and demand. There is far more that goes into what a player is paid. Market value is set by what players of previous ability have earned. Teams competing with each other is certainly part of it. But is not as simple as Supply and demand.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 10 @ 1:21 PM ET
Karlsson, Wideman, Edler, Campbell, Weber, Phaneuf, Suter, Timonen, Bieksa, Yandle, Streit, Chara, Keith, and Boyle are all ahead of Carle.

Carle is tied with Gonchar, Lidstrom, Del Zotto in points.

Carle is a good defenseman so to expect him to sign cheap would be ridiculous bc a young NHL defenseman are at a high premium. Im not a huge Carle fan but if were going by points hes right up their with some good players.

Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 10 @ 1:21 PM ET
any news on trade rumors
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 10 @ 1:21 PM ET
serious rumors
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 10 @ 1:22 PM ET
any news on trade rumors
- Deasr1


Yes. There are plenty of trade rumors out there. Most of them are as palatable as a poop sandwich.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 10 @ 1:22 PM ET
serious rumors
- Deasr1

No.
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