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rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 12:22 PM ET
I think if we trade for Schenn, Carle is staying. If we trade for Johnson and Schenn, then Carle leaves. So I'll do it 3 ways... Just my opinion for fun.

Option 1:

Carle-Schenn
Timonen-Coburn
Gus-Meszaros

Option 2:
Timonen-Coburn
Gus-Schenn
MAB-Meszaros

Option 3:
Timonen-Coburn
Johnson-Schenn
Gus-Meszaros

- RooNosHockey


I like option No. 3 of those as well. I'd like for Coburn, Johnson and Mezzy, all to be looking to safely jump up into the rush a.s.a.p. with the security of steady partner behind them.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:22 PM ET
There aren't any distractions out there. Nothing to focus on besides hockey. I'm shocked he is struggling the way he is.
- PLindbergh31



Nah, there's nothing to distract a young guy in LA.


Note: not saying he is distracted by anything.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:24 PM ET
Nah, there's nothing to distract a young guy in LA.


Note: not saying he is distracted by anything.

- MJL


Don't let Frank see the post, he will automatically start tweeting:
Richards out all night doing drugs, girls and drinking
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 12:26 PM ET
It would all change depending on who was brought in. I can't answer tha question definitively. I really don't want to see both Gustafsson and Bourdon both in the lineup.
- MJL


Why not? They haven't looked terribly out of place to me. They are both young, affordable, serviceable D men, who can play as high as No. 4 for short spells if need be imo. Better than much of what we've had in the 5-6 slots the past few season imo.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 10 @ 12:26 PM ET
Don't let Frank see the post, he will automatically start tweeting:
Richards out all night doing drugs, girls and drinking

- nastyflyergirl


My post about no distractions was obviously sarcasm... Oh well...

Bryz is not at practice, apparently the folks who report from Voorhees can't tell the difference between Ba-Cash-Money and Bryzgalov.

Looks like Bob this weekend.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:26 PM ET
I don't question Richards desire to win
- nastyflyergirl


me neither, until he decided to stop skating sometime in the last couple years.

he went from, "why bother?" with the media to why bother working hard since i'm getting paid an average of 5.6 million until 2021.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
update that was not Bryz at practice
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 12:28 PM ET
I was really impressed with both Bourdon and Gussy's games last night. Especially Bourdon made some really good decisions in his own end with pressure on and Flyers forwards not back to support... and Gus has got that Timmonen'esque ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone with flair...

It sucks coming to the realization at this point in the season that the team is probably still a year or two away from 'really' contending for a cup (with all the injuries and rookies filling key roles) - but watching the young guys out there with the game on the line (Coots winning that D-zone draw with a less than 3 mins left comes to mind last night) - they have a great core of youth and I think they can be really good... AND once you get to the post season - who knows what can happen!

Go Flyers!

- briseman


If the Flyers play like they did last night every night, then they are cup contendors. They need a little help on defense, and Bryz needs to be consistantly GOOD. But as long as they stay healthy now, and stop playing a perimeter pass game, and get the pucks and bodies to the net, then they can play with any team in the league, and win...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:30 PM ET
Why not? They haven't looked terribly out of place to me. They are both young, affordable, serviceable D men, who can play as high as No. 4 for short spells if need be imo. Better than much of what we've had in the 5-6 slots the past few season imo.
- rockychocbill



I think both are depth defenseman who can play adequately. I like Bourdon better then Gustafsson at this point. I don't view either as a player you want in your top 4. Maybe in the future. Bourdon needs some more experience, but has some good tools. I don't like Gustafsson's size, and he's not good enough with the puck to make up for it. They're decent players, but not really enamored with either.
Last year we had Meszaros and O'Donnell on the 3rd pair.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
update that was not Bryz at practice
- JoeRussomanno


JASON BACASHIHUA wearing Bryz's practice jersey?
Jack-Meoff
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
My post about no distractions was obviously sarcasm... Oh well...

Bryz is not at practice, apparently the folks who report from Voorhees can't tell the difference between Ba-Cash-Money and Bryzgalov.

Looks like Bob this weekend.

- PLindbergh31



Well thats a good thing for bob....its his time and opportunity to step in there and prove what hes got..... He better be chomping at the bits to get in there and show em he can start.....If he can go into this weekend and play real well and grab at least 3 points....it will be hard for lavi to put bryz in when hes back....
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:32 PM ET
Well thats a good thing for bob....its his time and opportunity to step in there and prove what hes got..... He better be chomping at the bits to get in there and show em he can start.....If he can go into this weekend and play real well and grab at least 3 points....it will be hard for lavi to put bryz in when hes back....
- Jack-Meoff


No it wont. As soon as Bryz is healthy he goes back in regardless IMO.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 10 @ 12:33 PM ET
JASON BACASHIHUA wearing Bryz's practice jersey?
- rockychocbill

Panatch just tweeted
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN

sorry folks. that is NOT Bryz down at the far end ...he remains out. that is Bacashihua

geez- like we couldn't have waited 5 minutes to hear who that really was?
Flyer_Nation71
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Your sister's house
Joined: 11.15.2010

Feb 10 @ 12:34 PM ET
He does but I dont see him giving the Flyers a discount. If he would sign for what Coburn did I think he would be locked up. My guess is he will get around $5.5M and I dont know if the Flyers are willing to go that high yet. They may be in on Carle but see what his market value is (like Ville). If the price is too expensive they will move on imo.
- stveshdy


In my opinion, i don't think Carle is even worth that much. I think he's a dime a dozen type of Dman. He's not an offensive threat and he's not physical. If you're going to demand that type of salary, the dman is usually one or the other.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:36 PM ET
Panatch just tweeted
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN

sorry folks. that is NOT Bryz down at the far end ...he remains out. that is Bacashihua

geez- like we couldn't have waited 5 minutes to hear who that really was?

- JoeRussomanno

like lisa said, it's the botulism guy.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 10 @ 12:39 PM ET
Pantachio gets Bacashihua to skate over during a brief break in practice and commences interview:
Panatch: So Bryz, did your time on the throne all day yesterday give you any insight into how you can score goals on the shootout?
Bacashihua: Uh I'm not Bryz
Panatch: Okay then Bryzard of Oz how are you going to handle it in tommorows game if you suddenly get a relapse of yesterday's symptoms in the game?
Bacashihua: Bryz isn't here today I am Jason Bacashihua Bryz is still sick.
Panatch: yes good ploy be someone else besides the universe guy we saw on HBO if you do have a relapse of the runs tommorow we will just write how bad you stunk out there, no pun intended
Bacashihua: I AM NOT (frank)ING BRYZGALOV!
Panatch: wait so you're telling me Bryz isn't playing tommorow?
Lavy screams at Baca to get his butt back in net and practice continues
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 12:40 PM ET
I think both are depth defenseman who can play adequately. I like Bourdon better then Gustafsson at this point. I don't view either as a player you want in your top 4. Maybe in the future. Bourdon needs some more experience, but has some good tools. I don't like Gustafsson's size, and he's not good enough with the puck to make up for it. They're decent players, but not really enamored with either.
Last year we had Meszaros and O'Donnell on the 3rd pair.

- MJL


I agree with your take on it. I'm thinking more towards the future though. Both MAB and Gus have played very few NHL games. With Pronger being out, and if you take away Jagr, suddenly the Flyers are one of the youngest teams in the league. I'd really like to see them grow together over the next two seasons or so and then take a real run at it.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 10 @ 12:41 PM ET
like lisa said, it's the botulism guy.
- isaiah520

phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:42 PM ET
Pantachio gets Bacashihua to skate over during a brief break in practice and commences interview:
Panatch: So Bryz, did your time on the throne all day yesterday give you any insight into how you can score goals on the shootout?
Bacashihua: Uh I'm not Bryz
Panatch: Okay then Bryzard of Oz how are you going to handle it in tommorows game if you suddenly get a relapse of yesterday's symptoms in the game?
Bacashihua: Bryz isn't here today I am Jason Bacashihua Bryz is still sick.
Panatch: yes good ploy be someone else besides the universe guy we saw on HBO if you do have a relapse of the runs tommorow we will just write how bad you stunk out there, no pun intended
Bacashihua: I AM NOT (frank)ING BRYZGALOV!
Panatch: wait so you're telling me Bryz isn't playing tommorow?
Lavy screams at Baca to get his butt back in net and practice continues

- JoeRussomanno


I bet there is some merit to this...LOL
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:43 PM ET
Pantachio gets Bacashihua to skate over during a brief break in practice and commences interview:

- JoeRussomanno


RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 12:43 PM ET
No it wont. As soon as Bryz is healthy he goes back in regardless IMO.
- MBFlyerfan


Bryz's last 5 games... 6 goals 1.3 G.A.A. .947 SV%
Last 8 games... 12 goals 1.70 G.A.A. .938 SV%
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:43 PM ET
I think both are depth defenseman who can play adequately. I like Bourdon better then Gustafsson at this point. I don't view either as a player you want in your top 4. Maybe in the future. Bourdon needs some more experience, but has some good tools. I don't like Gustafsson's size, and he's not good enough with the puck to make up for it. They're decent players, but not really enamored with either.
Last year we had Meszaros and O'Donnell on the 3rd pair.

- MJL


not sure we've seen enough of gustafsson to determine that he's not good enough with the puck. that's his strength. not really in a position right now to let that come out, though i do think you see it in flashes.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:44 PM ET
I gotta be honest, if you were to have told me the player having the best year after leaving the Flyers last season was Versteeg I would have said no way

Versteeg 51GP 20-25-45 +5
Richards 47 GP 14-13-27 0
Carter 33 12-7-19 -9
Leino 42 4-11-15 -5
Carcillo 28 2-9-11 +10
Powe 54 4-5-9 -12

- nastyflyergirl


Richards is at his career goals per season pace, his linemates (Penner and Stoll) are bringing him down.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 10 @ 12:45 PM ET
JASON BACASHIHUA wearing Bryz's practice jersey?
- rockychocbill


No, panotch is just retarded
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 10 @ 12:46 PM ET

- wilsonecho91

that wasn't an error either
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