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nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:45 AM ET
It's a much better idea and would allow for more roster flexibility/versatility!


NHL fans would like trade deadline day a lot more I suspect...

- Max to the House

Yeah, but have to point out, we're saying that now, sure. Two years ago this proposal would be met with several



On here, another example of how the NHL doesn't give a whiff about competitive balance.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:46 AM ET
Doesn't the union hate when players do that?
- snowstorm077



Fvck the union and what they want.

The union in any sport is about the top 1% and their money. They could careless about the other 99%.

See the lockout that took out the 04/05 season.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
Yeah, but have to point out, we're saying that now, sure. Two years ago this proposal would be met with several



On here, another example of how the NHL doesn't give a whiff about competitive balance.

- nfph



Because people just see it as the rich getting richer. I've always saw as teams get to keep their players. Briere, Drury, Dumont, McKee, and Campbell all might've been re-signed.
MillerTime1130
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You F#cking Chernobyl Motha F#ckers
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:49 AM ET
I wouldn't be eagerly pushing for an extension for Vanek.
Don't get me wrong he's been good for Buffalo but he disappears too often and is starting to get injured quite a bit. I suppose it depends on the price. I don't think he is worth 7 million/per.
Malkin is another story.

- Max to the House


I just don't think Vanek is worth 7+ a year...

If Vanek was extended and brought down to like 6.25 or amazing would be for Pominville and Vanek to have extensions similiar in money..
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:49 AM ET
Because people just see it as the rich getting richer. I've always saw as teams get to keep their players. Briere, Drury, Dumont, McKee, and Campbell all might've been re-signed.
- dadeadhead


I mean just think about Nashville and the situation they are in right now. That is a team that definitely needs and the fans deserve to have some continuity with their stars.
Max to the House
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 12.02.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:49 AM ET
Yeah, but have to point out, we're saying that now, sure. Two years ago this proposal would be met with several



On here, another example of how the NHL doesn't give a whiff about competitive balance.

- nfph


That's fair...I just think it would allow teams to restructure their rosters and make for a better product. Currently it is difficult to alter the landscape of any organization especially if a given team is hampered by even one or two poor contracts.
Max to the House
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 12.02.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:50 AM ET
I just don't think Vanek is worth 7+ a year...

If Vanek was extended and brought down to like 6.25 or amazing would be for Pominville and Vanek to have extensions similiar in money..

- MillerTime1130


That's a much more reasonable figure for Vanek. If he were making that now the team would better off, especially when they are/have been up against the cap.
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Feb 10 @ 11:51 AM ET
Yeah I'm not worried about Fitzpatrick's deal whatsoever!
I just worry about Spiller losing confidence going back to the bench. He really came into his own this season. He is the most dynamic player on the roster IMO.

- Max to the House


Until we draft Courtney Upshaw or Melvin Ingram in the draft.... But offensivley he and Stevie are both pretty dynamic... Considering SJ stays.... My dream would be to Sign Vincent Jackson and Stevie.... Fitz would have alot of fun...
MillerTime1130
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You F#cking Chernobyl Motha F#ckers
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:52 AM ET
Until we draft Courtney Upshaw or Melvin Ingram in the draft.... But offensivley he and Stevie are both pretty dynamic... Considering SJ stays.... My dream would be to Sign Vincent Jackson and Stevie.... Fitz would have alot of fun...
- BuffaloKyle


VJax just said he wants 10 million guaranteed per season...
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:54 AM ET
That's a much more reasonable figure for Vanek. If he were making that now the team would better off, especially when they are/have been up against the cap.
- Max to the House



Vanek's making 6.4 this year, His cap hit is for 7.1. His contract was dictated because of Larry and Darcy saying "we'll match any offer". IMO that took his contract from a 6yr 39mil deal to a 7 yr 49 mil deal(1st 2yrs with a 5mil bonus).
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
I mean just think about Nashville and the situation they are in right now. That is a team that definitely needs and the fans deserve to have some continuity with their stars.
- Gunner Staal



Agreed.

Also with restructuring Millers contract would look like a 8yr 39.25 mil deal or 4.91 mil cap hit.

I think myself and several others would blame Miller less.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:59 AM ET
Because people just see it as the rich getting richer. I've always saw as teams get to keep their players. Briere, Drury, Dumont, McKee, and Campbell all might've been re-signed.
- dadeadhead

Of course, it's more wiggle room under the cap, which on its own is already outpacing what many teams can keep up with. We'd have lost those guys anyway too, in all likelihood, because the other teams would have restructured contracts to make room for them.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
Adam Rubin @AdamRubinESPN Close
Sad that looks like #Mets leaving Binghamton. Been affiliated since '92. Buffalo could kick out Mets too. May be lot of movement next winter
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:02 PM ET
Adam Rubin @AdamRubinESPN Close
Sad that looks like #Mets leaving Binghamton. Been affiliated since '92. Buffalo could kick out Mets too. May be lot of movement next winter

- Gunner Staal

Wouldn't the Jays make more sense?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:03 PM ET
Adam Rubin @AdamRubinESPN Close
Sad that looks like #Mets leaving Binghamton. Been affiliated since '92. Buffalo could kick out Mets too. May be lot of movement next winter

- Gunner Staal



Well it's not like the Mets have any quality talent they've sent to Buffalo.
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Feb 10 @ 12:04 PM ET
VJax just said he wants 10 million guaranteed per season...
- MillerTime1130


I dont care... Gotta spend to win..
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:05 PM ET
I dont care... Gotta spend to win..
- BuffaloKyle


In the Bill's case next year they have to spend to hit the floor.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:06 PM ET
VJax just said he wants 10 million guaranteed per season...
- MillerTime1130



They have to spend to the cap. Pay Stevie and bring in Vincent Jackson. Pay them both. They have the cash to burn.
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Feb 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
It still blows my mind that Gomez had a goal drought for a year.... he's got talent... Crazy..
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Feb 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
In the Bill's case next year they have to spend to hit the floor.
- Gunner Staal


Exactly... Give Fitz the best chance to win... Gets some o-line and some weapons... Vjax, Spiller, SJ, Nelson, Chandler, Freddy..... That could be fun to watch...
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
It still blows my mind that Gomez had a goal drought for a year.... he's got talent... Crazy..
- BuffaloKyle



Maybe he just rights that ship.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:10 PM ET
Exactly... Give Fitz the best chance to win... Gets some o-line and some weapons... Vjax, Spiller, SJ, Nelson, Chandler, Freddy..... That could be fun to watch...
- BuffaloKyle



Thats the key right there.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:10 PM ET
Exactly... Give Fitz the best chance to win... Gets some o-line and some weapons... Vjax, Spiller, SJ, Nelson, Chandler, Freddy..... That could be fun to watch...
- BuffaloKyle


To be honest, was that really a problem last year? I thought they did OK. They need defensive help like no other.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
To be honest, was that really a problem last year? I thought they did OK. They need defensive help like no other.
- Gunner Staal



Agreed.
MillerTime1130
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You F#cking Chernobyl Motha F#ckers
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 10 @ 12:12 PM ET
Exactly... Give Fitz the best chance to win... Gets some o-line and some weapons... Vjax, Spiller, SJ, Nelson, Chandler, Freddy..... That could be fun to watch...
- BuffaloKyle


If Rinehart was a full time starter they would be alot better...
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