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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:44 AM ET
I will rip on any player if/when they deserve it.

I couldn't like a player more than I like Giroux but he's been a fiasco the last little while as you've pointed out. He's far from the only one.

Good thing is the Flyers have been pretty close to a .500 team the last while and they've been playing like crap, time to turn it back up.

- Buts16


I hope Pronger's visit yesterday gives them a bit of a kick in the ass.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 9:46 AM ET
I hope Pronger's visit yesterday gives them a bit of a kick in the ass.
- tangent_man


It's nice that he got to visit the team, but still showing no signs of improvement sucks.

I still get sad when I see him in ads during games.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 9 @ 9:46 AM ET
I've never met an athlete (or former athlete) who was so gracious with his time. Wouldn't be surprised if Bill gets his picture taken with each and every person at that seminar.
- bradleyc4


he's probs walkin' outta there with lots of digits, too.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:47 AM ET
no, but I expect more than a 14 goal pace...

Giroux is more than capable of playing at a 20-30g/50-60a pace....

- jak521


Correct, and that's the pace he's on. The torrid first half is being tempered by a lull to start the 2nd half. It will all even out in a likely PPG (or a little higher) pace for the season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 9:47 AM ET
he's probs walkin' outta there with lots of digits, too.
- OrangeBlack27


Bill Clement, Cougar Hunter.
broadstreetbully12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.09.2009

Feb 9 @ 9:48 AM ET
Anybody thinks Lavvy should try some new lines?

I have always been a fan of putting Briere and Giroux together but I understood the need for spreading the talent around. However, Briere is coming off of a concussion, Giroux is in a mini-slump. Let Briere play wing with Giroux and Hartnell for a game or two and see if that can start something. They've shown in the past they can be good together. Schenn can play center with Jagr and Simmonds, giving Jagr the opportunity to hold on to the puck and make plays while Schenn can work on playing center and Simmonds can make room for everyone. Other two lines stay the same. Just an idea I have.

Hartnell - Giroux - Briere
Jagr - Schenn - Simmonds
Read - Talbot - Voracek
Sestito - Couturier - Rinaldo
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 9 @ 9:49 AM ET
Twenty-one games since returning to action from the concussion against Dallas.
- Jsaquella


I don't think it has anything to do with the concussion. Giroux has habitually struggled at midseason during his still-young NHL career before coming on again. I honestly think he's right on the brink of a huge game, and would not be the least bit surprised if tonight was the night.

From my observations over the years, scoring droughts often go in a cycle something like this:

1) A player gets away from doing the things that made him successful. No one talks about it in the first 3-4 games of the drought, but the player is quite often invisible on the ice in these games.

2) The player himself starts to lose a little confidence, and passes up shots he was taking before. Now he's being asked questions about why he isn't scoring, although the reasons should be obvious if you really look at his recent games.

3) The player focuses on simplifying his game a bit, and the scoring chances start to come again. Unfortunately, few (if any) chances end up in the net, because he's pressing to finish the chances rather than simply reacting.

4) Fans and media are now all over the players' case but it's just a matter of time until the beginning of the next offensive outburst; which often starts by potting a goal early in a game.

I truly think Giroux has been in stage 4 the last couple games. All he needs is to grab one early tonight and both he and the team will loosen up.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:49 AM ET
bill you inspired me to watch the Dusty Rhodes documentary on Netflex. Forgot how amazing he was. Wish i was old enough to have seen/remembered the pre-polkadot phase.
- Crimsoninja



netflex? that a special wrestling movie database?
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:50 AM ET
he's probs walkin' outta there with lots of digits, too.
- OrangeBlack27



he's still got it imo
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:51 AM ET
netflex? that a special wrestling movie database?
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:51 AM ET
netflex? that a special wrestling movie database?
- Don'tForgetTocchet

bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:51 AM ET
he's still got it imo
- Don'tForgetTocchet


if you don't mind the stench of stale cigars and cognac
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 9 @ 9:52 AM ET
Correct, and that's the pace he's on. The torrid first half is being tempered by a lull to start the 2nd half. It will all even out in a likely PPG (or a little higher) pace for the season.
- bradleyc4

I dont mean on the season. For him to have only 4 goals in his last 23 games... thats a huge problem.

For him to be a -4 despite having 60 points is a huge problem.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 9:53 AM ET
I don't think it has anything to do with the concussion. Giroux has habitually struggled at midseason during his still-young NHL career before coming on again. I honestly think he's right on the brink of a huge game, and would not be the least bit surprised if tonight was the night.

From my observations over the years, scoring droughts often go in a cycle something like this.

1) A player gets away from doing the things that made him successful. No one talks about it in the first 3-4 games of the drought.

2) The player himself starts to lose a little confidence, and passes up shots he was taking before. Now he's being asked questions about why he isn't scoring, although the reasons should be obvious if you really look at his recent games.

3) The player focuses on simplifying his game a bit, and the scoring chances start to come again. Unfortunately, few (if any) chances end up in the net, because he's pressing to finish the chances rather than simply reacting.

4) Fans and media are now all over the players' case but it's just a matter of time until the beginning of the next offensive outburst; which often starts by potting a goal early in a game.

I truly think Giroux has been in stage 4 the last couple games. All he needs is to grab one early tonight and both he and the team will loosen up.

- bmeltzer


The sheer amount of chances he's generating is very encouraging. Starting with the Devils game, he's been getting so many great chances, that sooner or later one's going to go in and he's going to catch fire again.

He's not forcing things anymore, like he seemed to be doing for awhile. He's taking shots and and creating chances for his teammates off of what he's been doing. When he was struggling, it seemed he was forcing everything and pressing too hard, not that he was suffering any ill effects from his injury.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 9 @ 9:54 AM ET
As soon as retards stop ripping him after a shutout, I'll stop defending him.
- Jsaquella


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 9:54 AM ET
he's still got it imo
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Now that he regrew the 'stache, sure
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:54 AM ET
I dont mean on the season. For him to have only 4 goals in his last 23 games... thats a huge problem.

For him to be a -4 despite having 60 points is a huge problem.

- jak521


It's just a matter of luck right now. He's getting many glorious scoring chances and just not burying them right now. Bill detailed it nicely a few posts back.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 9 @ 9:55 AM ET
I truly think Giroux has been in stage 4 the last couple games. All he needs is to grab one early tonight and both he and the team will loosen up.
- bmeltzer

I sure hope so, because we need him at the top of his game in order to elevate the team. He has had so many gifts lately (typically they are a sign he is doing the right things) so it should only be a matter of time before he starts potting the points again. I still cannot believe how many open nets, and gimme goals, he has missed over the past 5 or so games.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 9 @ 9:55 AM ET
Twenty-one games since returning to action from the concussion against Dallas.
- Jsaquella


Thought it was tampa?
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 9 @ 9:55 AM ET
I am very jealous. I've met a bunch of athletes and I would have to say two of the nicest were Bill Cosby and Sammi Hannu Antero Kapanen
- Deasr1


nicest athlete i've ever met was curtis martin luther king dunlap tire iron sheik
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 9:56 AM ET
Thought it was tampa?
- funmaster18


First game back was against the stars. 1 G, 3 A
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Feb 9 @ 9:56 AM ET
I don't think it has anything to do with the concussion. Giroux has habitually struggled at midseason during his still-young NHL career before coming on again. I honestly think he's right on the brink of a huge game, and would not be the least bit surprised if tonight was the night.


- bmeltzer



I hope it's not tonight but we'll see.


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 9:56 AM ET
nicest athlete i've ever met was curtis martin luther king dunlap tire iron sheik
- OrangeBlack27

broadstreetbully12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.09.2009

Feb 9 @ 9:57 AM ET
Thought it was tampa?
- funmaster18

Definitely Dallas. Had a four point night and we beat that ass!
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:57 AM ET
nicest athlete i've ever met was curtis martin luther king dunlap tire iron sheik
- OrangeBlack27

*claps*
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