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SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:33 AM ET
Okposo missed a couple of golden oportunities too...

Isles need at least 40 points to make the playoffs. No shot anyone under 92 points gets 8th spot.. none. That said they have 29 games now to get AT LEAST 40 points (I would bet they need 43 points). They are not out of the hunt yet??!! unless this team wins 8 or 9 in a row.. they are out.

- niteislander


Isles go 21 and 8 down the stretch under pressure packed situations?????

Oh please my side is splitting.

Nite Isle, you have never been more RIGHT in your life.



UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 10 @ 11:50 AM ET
Isles go 21 and 8 down the stretch under pressure packed situations?????

Oh please my side is splitting.

Nite Isle, you have never been more RIGHT in your life.


- SCLI


The schedule in March isn't very friendly either...starts with Flyers, Bruins, Devils 3x, then the Rangers, and ends with Pittsburgh 2x and the Bruins
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:51 AM ET
Isles go 21 and 8 down the stretch under pressure packed situations?????

Oh please my side is splitting.

Nite Isle, you have never been more RIGHT in your life.


- SCLI


Agreed scary thing is because of Jacks umm "success" He will probably be back next year and GArth wont do anything since we had a better season. Id ont get this team some times.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
if Snow doesn't trade Nabby I'm going to be pissed.

TSN is saying he (Snow) will not be trading Nabokov, that Snow has faith in this squad and isn't surrendering the season... WTF! You can't actually believe for one second that the Isles are going to make the post season. The Isles are bottom 5 in the league in scoring, our defense is amoung the worst in the league, our coach is a (frank)ing tool, the list goes on.

The team is still young and developing. We have seen many good things this season but come on, where's the reality here Garth? I admire his confidence (really plain stupidity) in our squad but we're just not there yet. I understand there's a business side to this game and selling off players and pretty much admitting defeat isn't good for revenue (tickets, concessions, etc..) but is it business or does Snow really not see the team for what it is? Does he actually think he's done such a great job building this team that it can actually compete for the cup? Does he really think getting in as the eighth seed the Isles would stand a chance or even win a single game? Would we score a goal in the first round? Answer: No. Aside from Tavares and Moulson (and I don't consider Moulson a legit offensive threat) we got nothing up front. Bailey, Okposo, Nielsen, Grabner, Martin are all inconsistent as they come. Playoff teams aren't made up of these components. Playoff teams are solid, consistent, balanced teams - polar opposites of what we are.

Swallow your pride Garth, trade Nabby, make a trade or two. Looking at this roster everyone should be in play, well keep #91 around. Keep the homegrown talent, sign and trade to fill the voids. This summer offer some money to Parise, stupid money! Why not?! Than one day we can retire him and his Dad into the Isles Hall Of Fame, we'll make a weekend out of it.

- Mr.Black

Snow tries that every year and the best he comes up with are Jon Sim, Brian Rolston and Marty Reasoner. Snow couldn't sell a fire hose to man on fire. He can't supplement the home grown talent with any outside help. It will be that way until this team is a playoff team and its arena situation is settled.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:06 PM ET
I think it's time to find out if MM can produce without JT. PA has done pretty well off the top line. Nino was a top 5 pick and has a rep for scoring big goals lets see what he can do with JT. Did anyone in the media even ask Jack if he thought about changing lines? At this rate I rather see Doug Weight as coach. I cannot take passive Jack anymore.
- ses111

I'd rather see a real NHL coach come in instead of Doug Weight. Why can't Snow bring in a real coach like MacTavish, Therrien or Andy Murray? Why do we have to settle for a guy with no experience or some AHL guy trying to get into the Show?
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:10 PM ET
To you, me & the next guy.

But you have no idea what he says or doesn't say behind closed doors. He does not run his businesses out in the public.. there is no need for him to.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

Based on this team's track record during Wang's tenure, its hard to believe that he demands anything from his staff other than mediocrity. Wang is far too accepting of failure. He kept Milbury around after he had destroyed the organization. His current GM hasn't gotten the team out of the league's bottom five in five years, yet his job is incredibly safe. Wang doesn't need to say anything for people to see that he accepts failure and mediocrity and refuses to hold people he likes (i.e. Snow) accountable for their results, or lack therof.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Feb 10 @ 12:12 PM ET
I'd rather see a real NHL coach come in instead of Doug Weight. Why can't Snow bring in a real coach like MacTavish, Therrien or Andy Murray? Why do we have to settle for a guy with no experience or some AHL guy trying to get into the Show?
- Jethro09



lets think about this for a second....islanders have the 6th best pp in the leauge and whenever they show the bench after a bad call Weight is the one going absolutely insane....i would not mind seeing what this guy can do, i sure as hell would be he would keep the team motivated and im doubled sure hed do a significantly better job than cappy.

i dont need a big name coach, i need a coach thatll do his job.....i cant blame weight for never being a coach before, the guy was playing before. even guys like MacTavish, Therrien, and Andy Murray had to start somewhere....
bhockey47
Joined: 02.26.2008

Feb 10 @ 12:15 PM ET
Dee you have to be drinking the same stuff that Butch is drinking...this team is playing like crap, they're back to 14th in the conference, 26th in the league. KO is a -11 Bailey no better...Grabner a total bust...Charles Wang is trying to do this on the cheap...well the top tier teams see it differently put real talent on the ice and go to the playoffs, put the Isles on the ice and go home...and that's no reflection on JT, Moulson, PA, and Nabby..the rest are useless...absolutely useless.
bhockey47
Joined: 02.26.2008

Feb 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
I'd rather see a real NHL coach come in instead of Doug Weight. Why can't Snow bring in a real coach like MacTavish, Therrien or Andy Murray? Why do we have to settle for a guy with no experience or some AHL guy trying to get into the Show?
- Jethro09


Pretty simple when the boss wants to do the entire organization on the cheap, the coach is an AHL coach at best...
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Feb 10 @ 12:23 PM ET
lets think about this for a second....islanders have the 6th best pp in the leauge and whenever they show the bench after a bad call Weight is the one going absolutely insane....i would not mind seeing what this guy can do, i sure as hell would be he would keep the team motivated and im doubled sure hed do a significantly better job than cappy.

i dont need a big name coach, i need a coach thatll do his job.....i cant blame weight for never being a coach before, the guy was playing before. even guys like MacTavish, Therrien, and Andy Murray had to start somewhere....

- LetsGoIsles


I think I agree with you on this.......hold on, let me read it again. Yep, I agree.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:26 PM ET
I think I agree with you on this.......hold on, let me read it again. Yep, I agree.
- BringBackBalky


I too will not mind Weight behind the bench. I love his energy and how he flips out. I can see him being the next coach to throw sticks and water bottles on the ice. See when a team sees there coach fiery like that then they will play that way. Jack seems like he could care less and it reflects alot on this team
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:28 PM ET
lets think about this for a second....islanders have the 6th best pp in the leauge and whenever they show the bench after a bad call Weight is the one going absolutely insane....i would not mind seeing what this guy can do, i sure as hell would be he would keep the team motivated and im doubled sure hed do a significantly better job than cappy.

i dont need a big name coach, i need a coach thatll do his job.....i cant blame weight for never being a coach before, the guy was playing before. even guys like MacTavish, Therrien, and Andy Murray had to start somewhere....

- LetsGoIsles

I'm not blaming anything this season on Doug Weight. But, if you're going to change coaches, and your organization is screaming for credibility, you can't keep hiring coaches with no experience. Doug Weight was a terrific player. That doesn't mean he'll make a good coach. Bryan Trottier was one of the best players ever. He sucked as a coach. Gretzky was the best player ever. He was a mediocre coach.

Its time this organization makes SOME move that gains it credibility and accolades. Makes a move that will garner respect from players both in the organization and out. This team needs a name behind the bench if they're going to hire a third coach in less than 2 years.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Feb 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
Dee you have to be drinking the same stuff that Butch is drinking...this team is playing like crap, they're back to 14th in the conference, 26th in the league. KO is a -11 Bailey no better...Grabner a total bust...Charles Wang is trying to do this on the cheap...well the top tier teams see it differently put real talent on the ice and go to the playoffs, put the Isles on the ice and go home...and that's no reflection on JT, Moulson, PA, and Nabby..the rest are useless...absolutely useless.
- bhockey47



im not one to defend dee cause some of the stuff she says....well, we all know. but a direct quote from this blog

"Well, as I was asked on twitter, "so are they mathematically eliminated now?"

Uh... well... in my mind? Yeppers."
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 10 @ 12:30 PM ET
Gillies was not working toward becoming a complete hockey player away from the puck. Looking at how Nino's developed over the year, I think it's pretty clear where the focus has been with him and what he's been told to work on during his shifts: skating, defensive awareness, and being a physical presence. There's been pretty significant improvement in those areas compared to the first handful of games he played. He was a big-bodied pushover and traffic cone to start the year. He at least blends in now skating-wise, he can fight for pucks along the boards, and he can shake off a check or two. That never happened earlier. Frankly, I'm not worried at all that when he's actually put into a scoring role and gets more chances, that he'll figure out how to score. He has a very good release and can get shots off in a hurry. Give him time.

If I remember right, you have been exceedingly patient with Bailey...but Nino's a major concern after 30 games in a year he probably should have been returned to juniors if the Isles didn't need his cap hit?
edit -- as a late aside...in just 6 AHL games that Nino has played total...where he was in a scoring role...he scored as many goals as Gillies has in the AHL since 2006-2007.

- UIF



ha.. I was just going to say same to you. Bailey who is on the PK and one of the best 2 way players on this team gets sht all over, but Nino who I have never seen back check or do any of these other wonderful things you are talking about is just fine. Listen.. I want Nino to be great... but he has not shown me sht to think that at this point. I realize he is young... but we passed on a lot of guys for him and I would at least like to see Flashes of what he can become in the future.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
Jeez, at least have Weight coach in Bridgeport for a couple of seasons or something to see if he'd even be remotely credible as a head coach before giving him an NHL head coaching job...
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Feb 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
Capuano says that d-pairs will change for tomorrow night. Parenteau and Okposo may switch again.

There you go guys......and you say he never makes changes
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
Agreed scary thing is because of Jacks umm "success" He will probably be back next year and GArth wont do anything since we had a better season. Id ont get this team some times.
- kasperrko



If Snow would do something to increase our chances of winning. I wouldnt be so pessimistic. Or as I call it. Realistic about our chances of obtaining a PO spot. But he'll continue to spill the nonsense that this team is capable of reaching the PO's as it is. With the current staff, mounting injuries and with call ups like Reese Wallace and Ness.

After thinking it over. Riding Nabby in search of a unobtainable (nearly impossible) goal. Rather then entertaining offers from other teams. (Snow has publicly stated this) At a time when his value is as high as it will ever be. In my opinion. Shows how Unbelievably naive & inexperienced Snow is when it comes to building a team outside of the Draft and Waiver route.

We have talented Goalies in the system. We are not going to make the PO's this yr. Nabby could bring a #2 rd pick in this yrs draft that could be used as part of a package or be used to obtain another 1st rd pick in what is considered a very good draft yr.

Nabby has been good. Isnt that what we had hoped for? Good enough to trade him for a respectable return. He is not our future.

He is not going to carry us to a PO spot but he can do exactly what we expected him to do. Play well enough to bring something of value to the Isles via a trade.

UIF, I did look at the upcoming schedule. It would be tough enough if we were healthy and had everyone clicking. But realistically as we stand now.IF we play as well as we can. At very best. I could see us winning 12 - 14 games out of the 29 remaining. Which pretty much keeps us in the same spot we are now. The NHL version of a 500 record.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
Ok saw the game last night and not until the third period the Islanders did not seem interested in playing. I dont get why we cant come out every night fighting for our lives. We can do that if we had a coach to motivate them. I made metion of this at the beginning of the season Jack should have been let go during the summer and brought in a real NHL coach.

As for the game itself when I heard Scotty Gomez has not scored over a year I knew he would score last night it was a matter of time. There is no excuse for that at all!! We revive people careers all the time. Nabby looked ok last night I would like to see Montoya Saturday and Nabby Sunday. Every game is important but Sunday is against our own Conference. Also it seems Tavares is trying to do everything on his own. Bailey impressed me last night and was at least trying and our Fourth line is outshining our 3rd and second line. Something wrong there. I feel the Islanders are not going to be able to get to the playoffs but they are still in it.

As for Nabby one last time. I agree to try him if he bolts at the end of the season, but lets face it without him we would be about 14 points out right now. I would see what he would like to do and ifhe agrees to extension keep him around for a couple years and train Poulin. Drop DP on his head somewhere and ship Al out of here as he gives up to many weak goals and rebounds.

- kasperrko



I disagree with this statement too.. Isles were flying around and peppering the net just not scoring. Price was amazing.
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Feb 10 @ 12:33 PM ET
Jeez, at least have Weight coach in Bridgeport for a couple of seasons or something to see if he'd even be remotely credible as a head coach before giving him an NHL head coaching job...
- UIF


Doesn't Weight handle the PP? I mean we are 6th in the league. Not saying that qualifies him to be a HC but he obviously has some idea what he's doing.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:34 PM ET
Based on this team's track record during Wang's tenure, its hard to believe that he demands anything from his staff other than mediocrity. Wang is far too accepting of failure. He kept Milbury around after he had destroyed the organization. His current GM hasn't gotten the team out of the league's bottom five in five years, yet his job is incredibly safe. Wang doesn't need to say anything for people to see that he accepts failure and mediocrity and refuses to hold people he likes (i.e. Snow) accountable for their results, or lack therof.
- Jethro09


And complete obedience to his every whim and whimsey.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:34 PM ET
ha.. I was just going to say same to you. Bailey who is on the PK and one of the best 2 way players on this team gets sht all over, but Nino who I have never seen back check or do any of these other wonderful things you are talking about is just fine. Listen.. I want Nino to be great... but he has not shown me sht to think that at this point. I realize he is young... but we passed on a lot of guys for him and I would at least like to see Flashes of what he can become in the future.
- niteislander

I would like to see more from Nino too, but to be fair to him, he (like Bailey in 08-09) has no business being in the NHL and if they were going to rush him into the league, the least they could do is play him on one of the top three lines. Playing a 19 year old kid 6 minutes/night on the fourth line with Pandolfo, Reasoner or Wallace is not going to allow this kid to show anything or worse yet, allow him to develop. At least when Bailey was rushed, he was given top three line minutes, PP time, etc. Nino is getting squat and he's sitting on the fourth line so Cappy could play a bum like Rolston instead. That infuriates me.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 10 @ 12:36 PM ET
you really just compared nino with trevor (frank)ing gillies????

nino is clearly brushing up on the parts of his game he was never forced to use (IE using his physicality as much as possible). being that he always was the scorer, he never needed to use his body. he is being groomed to be the physical presence on a top 2 line. take it easy on the guy....

- LetsGoIsles


The gillies reference was a joke to show that even a goon can score once in a while. NINO HAS TO FKEN START SCORING!! STOP BABYING HIM AND GIVING HIM A PASS. he has had PP time and has had a lot of very good oportunities. Where are these wonderful hands we heard about? Where is the "he's a finisher"... has a nose for the net?? Hey Nino.. you were a top 5 pick and they gave u an extra year in juniors to develope. Start fken scoring!!!
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 10 @ 12:37 PM ET
ha.. I was just going to say same to you. Bailey who is on the PK and one of the best 2 way players on this team gets sht all over, but Nino who I have never seen back check or do any of these other wonderful things you are talking about is just fine. Listen.. I want Nino to be great... but he has not shown me sht to think that at this point. I realize he is young... but we passed on a lot of guys for him and I would at least like to see Flashes of what he can become in the future.
- niteislander


You haven't seen Nino throw or fight off any checks? You don't notice any improvement in his skating from the beginning of the year?
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Feb 10 @ 12:38 PM ET
ha.. I was just going to say same to you. Bailey who is on the PK and one of the best 2 way players on this team gets sht all over, but Nino who I have never seen back check or do any of these other wonderful things you are talking about is just fine. Listen.. I want Nino to be great... but he has not shown me sht to think that at this point. I realize he is young... but we passed on a lot of guys for him and I would at least like to see Flashes of what he can become in the future.
- niteislander


Outside of Hall & Seguin, there are only 3 other guys from that draft that have played an NHL game. Not like we passed on the next best thing.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:39 PM ET
I disagree with this statement too.. Isles were flying around and peppering the net just not scoring. Price was amazing.
- niteislander

I agree with Kasper.
It looked all to much like Cookie Cutter hockey. Up and down the wing. Shoot! Back check! Defend! Back up the wings. Shoot. Back Check. Defend. Again and Again. Boring Droid Hockey. No individual effort. No Shaking anything up. No big hits. No fights. No Scrums. NO crashing the goalie. No excitement. No enthusiasm. Up and down up and down waiting for something to happen.

Boring!
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