I don't know that I'd say 0%. Marincin and Gernat have the potential both are long-term projects, and Marincin isn't playing as bad as you made it out to be in your post.

As for Klefbom and Musil, both have potential the same quality as Smid.
- Lahey

Oilers D Top Prospects

Oscar Klefbom
Martin Marincin
David Musil
Brandon Davidson
Martin Gernat
Taylor Fedun

Sutton Replacement in couple years;

Kyle Bigos
Position: D
Shoots: Right
Height: 6-5
Weight: 230 lbs

Klefbom has no offensive side to him, he will most likely be a good #4-5. Musil also looks like he is capable of making the NHL as a 3rd pairing d-man. Marincin has not been showing the drive necessary to make it to the NHL, his play has dropped off significantly and he is still just as lanky as he was when the Oilers drafted him and he is much too weak. As for Gernat, he simply just doesn't have the skill set required to be an NHL player at all, let alone top pairing. I see Marincin and Gernat both being career AHL-ers until their late 20's at which point some team will give them an NHL shot or they will go play in Europe. Ales Hemsky has a better chance of becoming a first pairing D then those guys.
- dallas717

Worst post ever. You are a clown

Klefbom has no offensive side to him, he will most likely be a good #4-5. Musil also looks like he is capable of making the NHL as a 3rd pairing d-man. Marincin has not been showing the drive necessary to make it to the NHL, his play has dropped off significantly and he is still just as lanky as he was when the Oilers drafted him and he is much too weak. As for Gernat, he simply just doesn't have the skill set required to be an NHL player at all, let alone top pairing. I see Marincin and Gernat both being career AHL-ers until their late 20's at which point some team will give them an NHL shot or they will go play in Europe. Ales Hemsky has a better chance of becoming a first pairing D then those guys.
- dallas717

Worst post ever. You are a clown

Worst post ever. You are a clown
- Ihatebrianburke

That's a pretty bold statement. Maybe worse of the day, but not ever.

Worst post ever. You are a clown
- Ihatebrianburke

he is not a clown,he is just in love with sutter,weber and possibly souray

Plante is going to surprise all of you.

why for sure trade yakupov? why not wait a couple years... maybe hes better than hall and you deal hall instead?

why for sure trade yakupov? why not wait a couple years... maybe hes better than hall and you deal hall instead?
- DarcyTucker16

Plante is going to surprise all of you.
- Pilgor09

Klefbom has no offensive side to him, he will most likely be a good #4-5. Musil also looks like he is capable of making the NHL as a 3rd pairing d-man. Marincin has not been showing the drive necessary to make it to the NHL, his play has dropped off significantly and he is still just as lanky as he was when the Oilers drafted him and he is much too weak. As for Gernat, he simply just doesn't have the skill set required to be an NHL player at all, let alone top pairing. I see Marincin and Gernat both being career AHL-ers until their late 20's at which point some team will give them an NHL shot or they will go play in Europe. Ales Hemsky has a better chance of becoming a first pairing D then those guys.
- dallas717

Lol what the hell makes you able to say this? Listen to people at the draft and scouts. Klefbom could have a higher upside that Larsson, but he's a lot more of a risk. Plus he was named one of two All Star Defensemen at the World Juniors. What is hurting him right now IMO is that he is staying in Sweden, where he's not playing as much as he would if he were to come over to NA. Musil is a longer term project, supposed to be a shut down Dman. I'll admit Marincin took a step back this year, but one year is not enough to write off a career. And Gernat is playing around PPG as a rookie in the WHL, how doesn't he have the skills?? Considering he's a sixth round pick, I'm pretty effin happy how he's doing as of right now.

Worst post ever. You are a clown
- Ihatebrianburke

You're right. Martin Gernat, the 5th round draft pick, is going to be a top 2 defenseman, Martin Marincin is going to score 60 points every season, and Oscar Klefbom is going to win the mother(frank)ing Norris trophy. I am an idiot.

Either say why you think I'm wrong and show some logic to back it up or (frank) off.

he is not a clown,he is just in love with sutter,weber and possibly souray

- AlEx_OiL

Shea Weber is the best defenseman in the NHL, Ryan Suter is one of the best, and Sheldon Souray is still better than everyone on the Oilers, except for maybe Whitney. I'm so stupid to like those players and to want them to play for us. You're right, Gernat and Marincin are waaaaaaaayyyy better than those guys

Roy is not a 1st line centre, especially this season.

They are giving back Grigorenko (a #2/#1 overall), who will become BUFs #1 centre.
- mfreedman

Thats wrong, sorry.

Derek Roy is 100% a 1st line center. Is he having a down year? Sure. But so is just about everyone else on the Sabres.

That draft pick is valuable, yes. But you have no idea how good Griogorenko (or whoever would be picked) will be. Its a draft pick. Not an established player. Can't speak so highly of someone who's a teenager and has yet to play a game of professional hockey.

Lol what the hell makes you able to say this? Listen to people at the draft and scouts. Klefbom could have a higher upside that Larsson, but he's a lot more of a risk. Plus he was named one of two All Star Defensemen at the World Juniors. What is hurting him right now IMO is that he is staying in Sweden, where he's not playing as much as he would if he were to come over to NA. Musil is a longer term project, supposed to be a shut down Dman. I'll admit Marincin took a step back this year, but one year is not enough to write off a career. And Gernat is playing around PPG as a rookie in the WHL, how doesn't he have the skills?? Considering he's a sixth round pick, I'm pretty effin happy how he's doing as of right now.
- dragonslade

There is no way he has the offensive skill set or potential that Larsson does. I said I think he will be a good #4 d-man for the Oilers one day, similar player to Ladislav Smid, there is nothing wrong with that at all. He was named an all-star because he was excellent defensively. As for Gernat, sure he's doing great offensively for a 5th round pick, but defense is where he struggles. If I had a nickel for every player who put up a lot of points in the WHL and never had that translate to an NHL career I'd be rich

You're right. Martin Gernat, the 5th round draft pick, is going to be a top 2 defenseman, Martin Marincin is going to score 60 points every season, and Oscar Klefbom is going to win the mother(frank)ing Norris trophy. I am an idiot.

Either say why you think I'm wrong and show some logic to back it up or (frank) off.
- dallas717

I'm not saying those guys are first pairing for sure or like u said they may never make the show but you're an idiot. You're basing their potential on where they were drafted? Moron. There's hundreds of players who developed more than expected of them.

Plante is going to surprise all of you.
- Pilgor09

I think he's going to be here full time next year. Even if its on the bottom pair, or as the 7th guy.

You're right. Martin Gernat, the 5th round draft pick, is going to be a top 2 defenseman, Martin Marincin is going to score 60 points every season, and Oscar Klefbom is going to win the mother(frank)ing Norris trophy. I am an idiot.

Either say why you think I'm wrong and show some logic to back it up or (frank) off.
- dallas717

The "Logic" is all those players haven't play yet at the NHL level so to said that there will be top 2,3,4 or botton 6 is nonsense,unless you can see the future or have a magic ball

For the love of god, cant we all STOP using (frank)ing numbers to describe dmen? You all sound (frank)ing retarded.

There is a such thing as a number 1 dman, yes. I get that. To an extent, I would even go as far to say as there is a such thing as a number 2 dman. I don't even like saying that.

However, a number 3, 4, 5, 9, 12341 guy? Give me a break. It sounds retarded. There is NO such thing.

And yes, I am being anal about something like terms right now. Top pairing. Top four. Second pairing. Bottom pairing. Theres no (frank)ing difference between a "3-4 guy" and a "5-6" guy. If your a 5-6 guy, your a bottom pairing dman. 5 is not better then 6. Neither is good enough to be a top 4. Thats all. 3 is not better then 4. They are just, depending on the team, not as good as the two guys on the top pair. On most teams, theres very little disparity amongst 1-2-3 and 4.

I'm sorry, but reading "Well, Colton Teubert can probably be a 4-5-6 guy" is (frank)ing retarded. It doesn't make any sense.

Thats wrong, sorry.

Derek Roy is 100% a 1st line center. Is he having a down year? Sure. But so is just about everyone else on the Sabres.

That draft pick is valuable, yes. But you have no idea how good Griogorenko (or whoever would be picked) will be. Its a draft pick. Not an established player. Can't speak so highly of someone who's a teenager and has yet to play a game of professional hockey.
- mochoson

Keep in mind it isn't just a draft pick.. It is a lottery pick, and after that trad emost likely a top 2 pick...

What do you think it would take to acquire Nugent Hopkins? How about Hall, Seguin, Tavares, etc...

It is a damn valuable pick and a trade straight up for Myers wouldn't get it done IMO

Also, this team needs to shed some salary if they are going to change things up

Plante is going to surprise all of you.
- Pilgor09

I could see him being our new Sutton. The kid is a monster

Keep in mind it isn't just a draft pick.. It is a lottery pick, and after that trad emost likely a top 2 pick...

What do you think it would take to acquire Nugent Hopkins? How about Hall, Seguin, Tavares, etc...

It is a damn valuable pick and a trade straight up for Myers wouldn't get it done IMO

Also, this team needs to shed some salary if they are going to change things up
- mfreedman

Your asking that now, after all of those players have played games in the NHL. Its not the same. Its easy to name all of the lottery picks from recent years who have done well. But how about ones that have not done so well? I can name plenty.

I realize its a lottery pick. It'd be one of the main pieces going back to Buffalo.

That doesn't mean you can package it with a over-age, non-established prospect like Omark and expect to get back a proven, 1st line, PPG center in Roy, a Vezina, top-5 goalie in Miller, and a first pairing dman like Myers. The return would have to be enormous.

And what other salary are they suppose to shed exactly? Their saving nearly 3 mill just for swapping Miller with Khabbi. They also only have Khabbi for next year, where as Miller is on the hook for two more seasons.

Thats without the other almost 10 mill being sent back combined between Myers and Roy. If anything, the deal would need major restructuring just to make it work cap wise. The Sabres would almost have to take back Horcoff as well.

For the love of god, cant we all STOP using (frank)ing numbers to describe dmen? You all sound (frank)ing retarded.

There is a such thing as a number 1 dman, yes. I get that. To an extent, I would even go as far to say as there is a such thing as a number 2 dman. I don't even like saying that.

However, a number 3, 4, 5, 9, 12341 guy? Give me a break. It sounds retarded. There is NO such thing.

And yes, I am being anal about something like terms right now. Top pairing. Top four. Second pairing. Bottom pairing. Theres no (frank)ing difference between a "3-4 guy" and a "5-6" guy. If your a 5-6 guy, your a bottom pairing dman. 5 is not better then 6. Neither is good enough to be a top 4. Thats all. 3 is not better then 4. They are just, depending on the team, not as good as the two guys on the top pair. On most teams, theres very little disparity amongst 1-2-3 and 4.

I'm sorry, but reading "Well, Colton Teubert can probably be a 4-5-6 guy" is (frank)ing retarded. It doesn't make any sense.
- mochoson

you probably didn't like Math

The "Logic" is all those players haven't play yet at the NHL level so to said that there will be top 2,3,4 or botton 6 is nonsense,unless you can see the future or have a magic ball

- AlEx_OiL

You just proved my point. Neither of Gernat or Marincin have played at an NHL level and, based on their skills, there is no reason to assume they ever will. That is why it is stupid to say they will probably one day play for the Oilers, let alone have first pairing potential like Richard said, which is the point I was trying to make in the first place. No I don't have a magic ball, but what I do have is common sense when it comes to who has a legit chance at playing in the NHL (Klefbom, Musil) and who doesn't (Gernat, Marincin). Try using it.

you probably didn't like Math
- AlEx_OiL

English is not your first language, is it?

I'm honestly not trying to be a d1ck either. That's a serious question

Your asking that now, after all of those players have played games in the NHL. Its not the same. Its easy to name all of the lottery picks from recent years who have done well. But how about ones that have not done so well? I can name plenty.

I realize its a lottery pick. It'd be one of the main pieces going back to Buffalo.

That doesn't mean you can package it with a over-age, non-established prospect like Omark and expect to get back a proven, 1st line, PPG center in Roy, a Vezina, top-5 goalie in Miller, and a first pairing dman like Myers. The return would have to be enormous.

And what other salary are they suppose to shed exactly? Their saving nearly 3 mill just for swapping Miller with Khabbi. They also only have Khabbi for next year, where as Miller is on the hook for two more seasons.

Thats without the other almost 10 mill being sent back combined between Myers and Roy. If anything, the deal would need major restructuring just to make it work cap wise. The Sabres would almost have to take back Horcoff as well.
- mochoson

you just use the same term to describe a D player...(1)first pairing dman like Myers....