Pohl
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Location: Lethbridge, AB Joined: 06.20.2007
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If Derek Roy is a first-line center then Sam Gagner is a point per game player. |
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mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Thornhill, ON Joined: 10.04.2010
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...for real? are you actually serious? 3 of our best players for an un proven forward, decrepit goaltender, china glass fragile forward, and a guy who had an overrated shootout goal that has accomplished virtually nothing in the NHL and a second round pick?
I guess it makes sense that a leafs fan would suggest this but that would NEVER happen, no GM is that stupid. - sabresfan365
Roy is overrated imo, and is showing that he can't handle the workload as the #1C imo.
You get the Oilers #1 this year, and you still have your own.
Khabby splits time with Enroth to let him adjust to being the future #1.
Hemsky will provide some nice secondary scoring, and can become a good addition too.
Now Miller and Myers are the pig pieces here.
I think Enroth is the better goalie, which is why I would be OK giving up Miller if I were you, if it is for the right pieces.
This doesn't justify giving him up for nothing, though.
Keep in mind the Oilers #1 will most likely be a top 5 pick.
Also, if you get rid of Myers and Miller, you will most likely get a top 5 pick as well.
This gives you a shot at Grigs and Yakupov (did you see them in the WJC?)
Imagine this
Nail-Grigs-Vanek
Hemsky-Adam-Pominville
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Defence....
Enroth
Khabby
Along with the fact that you also have EDM's 2nd rounder as well. Good depth pick-up.
It's a risk, but one I might be willing to take if I were you |
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kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Ferguson Joined: 01.16.2011
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Agreed then I don't Agreed
Would like the Oilers to get Dumba but I think the Oilers need another Forward for the top 6 and desperately a R Winger...Oilers got more then enough D coming up which 2 or 1 of them could make the Oilers next season,most Oilers forwards coming up are Centers or Left W;Tyler Pitlick, C,Ryan Martindale, C,Curtis Hamilton, LW,Teemu Hartikainen, LW etc the only RW prospect Oilers have is Tobias Rieder, RW and he is just a little bigger then Eberle... - AlEx_OiL
Pitlick is not a LW, Martindale is in the ECHL, Hamilton is not a C, and Rieder is smaller than Eberle. Anything else you care to pull out of your ass? |
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kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Ferguson Joined: 01.16.2011
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Roy is overrated imo, and is showing that he can't handle the workload as the #1C imo.
You get the Oilers #1 this year, and you still have your own.
Khabby splits time with Enroth to let him adjust to being the future #1.
Hemsky will provide some nice secondary scoring, and can become a good addition too.
Now Miller and Myers are the pig pieces here.
I think Enroth is the better goalie, which is why I would be OK giving up Miller if I were you, if it is for the right pieces.
This doesn't justify giving him up for nothing, though.
Keep in mind the Oilers #1 will most likely be a top 5 pick.
Also, if you get rid of Myers and Miller, you will most likely get a top 5 pick as well.
This gives you a shot at Grigs and Yakupov (did you see them in the WJC?)
Imagine this
Nail-Grigs-Vanek
Hemsky-Adam-Pominville
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Defence....
Enroth
Khabby
Along with the fact that you also have EDM's 2nd rounder as well. Good depth pick-up.
It's a risk, but one I might be willing to take if I were you - mfreedman
Enroth is better than Miller?
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mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Thornhill, ON Joined: 10.04.2010
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Enroth is better than Miller? - kingbrehm
I think he will be... I meant in his career, not right now. Just from wha tI've seeen of him...
Am I way off on my assessment of Enroth BUF fans? |
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If Derek Roy is a first-line center then Sam Gagner is an 8 point per game player. - Pohl
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AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Machu Picchu, AB Joined: 02.28.2011
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Pitlick is not a LW, Martindale is in the ECHL, Hamilton is not a C, and Rieder is smaller than Eberle. Anything else you care to pull out of your ass? - kingbrehm
Did you just woke up or drinking???read again
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dragonslade
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: St. Paul, AB Joined: 11.07.2010
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Pitlick is not a LW, Martindale is in the ECHL, Hamilton is not a C, and Rieder is smaller than Eberle. Anything else you care to pull out of your ass? - kingbrehm
He's got the positions after the names not before |
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kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Ferguson Joined: 01.16.2011
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I think he will be... I meant in his career, not right now. Just from wha tI've seeen of him...
Am I way off on my assessment of Enroth BUF fans? - mfreedman
I think you're eating paint chips. Miller is easily a top 5 goalie in the NHL. Rough season or not there aren't many goaltenders I'd take in front of him.
Lundqvist, Thomas, Rinne ... maybe Quick. |
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If we are in contention for top 3 picking I would stick to the picks as anyone of the top 3 could be in the NHL next year as NHL ready... and by my top 3 as in most its Yakupov, Grigs and then Murray... |
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AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Machu Picchu, AB Joined: 02.28.2011
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Pitlick is not a LW, Martindale is in the ECHL, Hamilton is not a C, and Rieder is smaller than Eberle. Anything else you care to pull out of your ass? - kingbrehm
Jordan Eberle
Height: 5' 11"
Weight: 184
Shoots: Right
Born: 15 May 1990 (Age 21)
Tobias Rieder
Shoots: Left
Height: 5-11
Weight: 173 lbs
Birthdate: 1993-01-10 (Age 19) |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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If its a possibility, when would you expect a deal like that to go down? - Jack-artist
After the playoffs. |
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Why are teams so hesitant to make a deal or 2 prior to the deadline... is it researching more or they are not wanting the salary transfer sooner than later or? Or they try to use the hours and minutes remaining to squeeze each other into stupidity? Just curious... |
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Tweek
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 04.20.2010
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"till keep reading about how Sam Gagner is being shopped. Heck, TSN, who I trust more than anyone else, has Gagner listed on their NHL Trade Bait page. Gagner is not being shopped."
Just out of curiosity, but, you love to say that you are not a member of the media with inside connections, just some guy in his basement with a blog. So that being said, how can you say for sure you know the above statement to be true, and that you, the blogger, are right, while TSN, the media outlet with actual connections, is wrong? |
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mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Thornhill, ON Joined: 10.04.2010
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I think you're eating paint chips. Miller is easily a top 5 goalie in the NHL. Rough season or not there aren't many goaltenders I'd take in front of him.
Lundqvist, Thomas, Rinne ... maybe Quick. - kingbrehm
Price and Fleury
Also, this move is not to wint he cup for them next year... It is to make them cup contenders in 2-3 years time when Miller will be around 35.
I assume it might be better off for them to have Enroth honing his skills by then. |
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AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Machu Picchu, AB Joined: 02.28.2011
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Why are teams so hesitant to make a deal or 2 prior to the deadline... is it researching more or they are not wanting the salary transfer sooner than later or? Or they try to use the hours and minutes remaining to squeeze each other into stupidity? Just curious... - saskoil21
Nope Hockey deadline trade Season is for Fans to see whos the worst GM and the best GM....I think Oilers GM is safe,He demonstrated that last Season |
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LotekLeafs
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Markham, ON Joined: 12.22.2010
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I think you're eating paint chips. Miller is easily a top 5 goalie in the NHL. Rough season or not there aren't many goaltenders I'd take in front of him.
Lundqvist, Thomas, Rinne ... maybe Quick. - kingbrehm
Fleury, price? Just adding a couple more to put in my two cents, being:
1 cent = miller isnt top 5 anymore, top 10 sure.
2 cent = (completely unrelated to miller) please ignore mfreedman, hurts to read that guy post |
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dallas717
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.03.2010
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AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Machu Picchu, AB Joined: 02.28.2011
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"till keep reading about how Sam Gagner is being shopped. Heck, TSN, who I trust more than anyone else, has Gagner listed on their NHL Trade Bait page. Gagner is not being shopped."
Just out of curiosity, but, you love to say that you are not a member of the media with inside connections, just some guy in his basement with a blog. So that being said, how can you say for sure you know the above statement to be true, and that you, the blogger, are right, while TSN, the media outlet with actual connections, is wrong? - Tweek
TSN is Toronto Maple Leaft female doge$ so anything they can say about another team to get them confuse they will or create chaos they will....... |
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AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Machu Picchu, AB Joined: 02.28.2011
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dallas717
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.03.2010
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- AlEx_OiL
See edited post above for explanation. There is absolutely 0 chance any of those guys have top pairing potential. |
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See edited post above for explanation. There is absolutely 0 chance any of those guys have top pairing potential. - dallas717
Considering we have had Tom Gilbert in his bad years play a top 2 role a few years back I would never rule '0" chance on any of the prospects named... this team has placed many dmen in higher than normal roles in the past so if there are no better options via trade or draft from management we could see 1 or 2 from that list in the top 4- and maybe even top 2 |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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See edited post above for explanation. There is absolutely 0 chance any of those guys have top pairing potential. - dallas717
I don't know that I'd say 0%. Marincin and Gernat have the potential both are long-term projects, and Marincin isn't playing as bad as you made it out to be in your post.
As for Klefbom and Musil, both have potential the same quality as Smid. |
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AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Machu Picchu, AB Joined: 02.28.2011
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dallas717
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.03.2010
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Considering we have had Tom Gilbert in his bad years play a top 2 role a few years back I would never rule '0" chance on any of the prospects named... this team has placed many dmen in higher than normal roles in the past so if there are no better options via trade or draft from management we could see 1 or 2 from that list in the top 4- and maybe even top 2 - saskoil21
That's true that we could end up playing them in higher roles then they are capable of but that shouldn't be our goal. I see Oscar Klefbom as a watered down version of Ladislav Smid, and I see David Musil as a watered down version of Ladislav Smid who is a terrible skater. Honestly, Musil and Klefbom are the only 2 D prospects Edmonton has right now that have a legit chance of getting a regular NHL job. It is my hope that Whitney and Smid will sign extensions next year, and Gilbert the year after. That puts Whitney on the first pairing, with Smid and Gilbert on the second pairing, and hopefully Sutton on the 3rd pairing for a couple more years with Petry. With Musil and Klefbom both having a real shot at being #4-5 d-men, that puts the Oilers 1 top pairing defenseman away from having a respectable D core. This defenseman could be acquired through this years draft, or through a trade for a guy like Weber or Suter (longshot) |
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