I saw on the web Matt Gilroy could be traded soon. Could be a good pickup...not expensive, having a pretty good year and he is a local boy...for a mid round pick I would do it...
- kear20

Pass. He's been scratched in 7 games. We don't need another soft guy that can't play actual defense to save his life. We have that in spades already.

We have unproven depth. I agree we need that big time guy but I just don't think Suter is worth 7+ a year even though we'd have to overpay to attempt to get him anyway.
- BringBackBalky

He's at least a $6M a year D-man on the open market which means we need to get to at least $7M to get his attention. 7/50 is $7M a year, and give him the extra million to round the number out and make it look nice. Even if Suter isn't exactly worth it, this is the best way to get that stalwart.

That wasn't my point at all lol my point is that the money is there for an offer. Whether Suter accepts it or not is out of our control. My point was that the Islanders have the ability to make a competitive offer.
- isles10289

I meant to say that we threw big money at both of the guys I mentioned, it's no secret that Snow has Wang's blessing to throw money at a guy if they think he'd be a big upgrade. We made competitive offer to both of them, I just don't see how this year would be any different.

He's at least a $6M a year D-man on the open market which means we need to get to at least $7M to get his attention. 7/50 is $7M a year, and give him the extra million to round the number out and make it look nice. Even if Suter isn't exactly worth it, this is the best way to get that stalwart.
- isles10289

If we don't land Suter they should definitely be ringing on Wideman's door. If not at the same time.

I meant to say that we threw big money at both of the guys I mentioned, it's no secret that Snow has Wang's blessing to throw money at a guy if they think he'd be a big upgrade. We made competitive offer to both of them, I just don't see how this year would be any different.
- eichiefs9

That's a totally separate issue. Someone earlier said that the Islanders won't even be able to make an offer. That's what I was debunking. Your issue is a legit problem, but it's a different issue.

I meant to say that we threw big money at both of the guys I mentioned, it's no secret that Snow has Wang's blessing to throw money at a guy if they think he'd be a big upgrade. We made competitive offer to both of them, I just don't see how this year would be any different.
- eichiefs9

Our only "real" shot is that teams with all-star (or potential) d-men have cap issues and can't come close. Obviously we won't be his #1-29 choice

If we don't land Suter they should definitely be ringing on Wideman's door. If not at the same time.
- BringBackBalky

Wideman is way overrated. I'm looking in Boychuk's direction. He's overshadowed by Chara, but he's a fantastic shutdown D-man. Wideman is iffy in his own zone and is really overrated because of that all-star berth. Wideman strikes me as this year's Wisniewski- way overrated, worst contract of the offseason candidate.

Wideman is way overrated. I'm looking in Boychuk's direction. He's overshadowed by Chara, but he's a fantastic shutdown D-man. Wideman is iffy in his own zone and is really overrated because of that all-star berth. Wideman strikes me as this year's Wisniewski- way overrated, worst contract of the offseason candidate.
- isles10289

Man, why you always taking a dump on my posts? LOL

Man, why you always taking a dump on my posts? LOL
- BringBackBalky

Lol sorry man. I'm in my constitutional law class. It's made me argumentative

Wideman is way overrated. I'm looking in Boychuk's direction. He's overshadowed by Chara, but he's a fantastic shutdown D-man. Wideman is iffy in his own zone and is really overrated because of that all-star berth. Wideman strikes me as this year's Wisniewski- way overrated, worst contract of the offseason candidate.
- isles10289

I mentioned this a few weeks ago..I really want to make a legit run at Boychuk if he gets to free agency. He can actually play defense and loves to hit.

No one ever said he was.
- isles10289

actually, previous posts did suggest that the Isles can and should sign Parise...

actually, previous posts did suggest that the Isles can and should sign Parise...
- Jethro09

Actually, we were talking about where he would play in the line up if they did sign him. Try to keep up; we're not talking rocket science.

I meant to say that we threw big money at both of the guys I mentioned, it's no secret that Snow has Wang's blessing to throw money at a guy if they think he'd be a big upgrade. We made competitive offer to both of them, I just don't see how this year would be any different.
- eichiefs9

Using JT as a selling point would be helpful. The thing is, I assume Snow will put more of his efforts towards signing a defenseman and I don't think selling JT to a top tier UFA defenseman would have as much pull as compared to when trying to sign a forward.

Ottawa and Florida are falling off the face of earth. Why do you think it will take that many points? If the sens go ..500 the rest of the way they would have 87 points and Florida would have 89. The way they are both playing and the fact they aren't exactly teams with recent good track records, this is entirely possible. It could even be less.
- Isles316

Florida and Ottawa may be falling fast but if the Isles are to make a strong run, whats to say another team not currently in a playoff spot won't either, say Tampa or Buffalo. I agree, the Isles will need low to mid 90's in points to sure themselves a shot at the dance.

Florida and Ottawa may be falling fast but if the Isles are to make a strong run, whats to say another team not currently in a playoff spot won't either, say Tampa or Buffalo. I agree, the Isles will need low to mid 90's in points to sure themselves a shot at the dance.
- brodydog29

Isles need to go 20-10 to have a legit chance at the playoffs, 92 pts. Gotta double up every loss with 2 wins.

Did the Isles sign Parise, and Suter yet???

Did the Isles sign Parise, and Suter yet???
- jimmc7722

Not yet. They're waiting to see how this Rolston kid turns out before making a long term commitment to Parise.

He's at least a $6M a year D-man on the open market which means we need to get to at least $7M to get his attention. 7/50 is $7M a year, and give him the extra million to round the number out and make it look nice. Even if Suter isn't exactly worth it, this is the best way to get that stalwart.
- isles10289

suter/weber is widely regarded as the best defense pair in the league. If wis is worth 6.5, it could be insane bidding for suter. Detroit will have cap room, as will several other big markets, so the chances of the Isles attracting Suter's interest is pretty minimal. Sadly, with so many teams now signing their important ufa's prior to the end of the season, we get left looking at free agent markets like last year, where an Ehrhoff looks like a number 1 defenseman because everything else available is crap or depth signings. The amount of money thrown at players who don't deserve half the salary is ridiculous. See Leino for an example at forward.

The offseason is an easier road for the large market teams with a recent successful track record, and even more of an uphill climb for teams with a losing history, especially when Snow clearly doesn't want to grossly overpay.

The chances of the Isles picking up a great UFA in the offseason is next to nil. They're going to have to either develop through the draft or pull the trigger on a trade.

This offseason is going to resemble our last one unless Snow takes a chance and can make a deal.

suter/weber is widely regarded as the best defense pair in the league. If wis is worth 6.5, it could be insane bidding for suter. Detroit will have cap room, as will several other big markets, so the chances of the Isles attracting Suter's interest is pretty minimal. Sadly, with so many teams now signing their important ufa's prior to the end of the season, we get left looking at free agent markets like last year, where an Ehrhoff looks like a number 1 defenseman because everything else available is crap or depth signings. The amount of money thrown at players who don't deserve half the salary is ridiculous. See Leino for an example at forward.

The offseason is an easier road for the large market teams with a recent successful track record, and even more of an uphill climb for teams with a losing history, especially when Snow clearly doesn't want to grossly overpay.

The chances of the Isles picking up a great UFA in the offseason is next to nil. They're going to have to either develop through the draft or pull the trigger on a trade.

This offseason is going to resemble our last one unless Snow takes a chance and can make a deal.
- Isles_since_6

Isles need to focus on trades. Snow should not even waste too much time on the big FA's. Snow needs to focus now on what possible trades he can make and which prospects he can trade. Snow has to make sure he does not bring back anymore Rolston, Reasoner and Pandolfo types. Snow should also trade for a useful dman now with all these injuries. Use some of these draft picks.

suter/weber is widely regarded as the best defense pair in the league. If wis is worth 6.5, it could be insane bidding for suter. Detroit will have cap room, as will several other big markets, so the chances of the Isles attracting Suter's interest is pretty minimal. Sadly, with so many teams now signing their important ufa's prior to the end of the season, we get left looking at free agent markets like last year, where an Ehrhoff looks like a number 1 defenseman because everything else available is crap or depth signings. The amount of money thrown at players who don't deserve half the salary is ridiculous. See Leino for an example at forward.

The offseason is an easier road for the large market teams with a recent successful track record, and even more of an uphill climb for teams with a losing history, especially when Snow clearly doesn't want to grossly overpay.

The chances of the Isles picking up a great UFA in the offseason is next to nil. They're going to have to either develop through the draft or pull the trigger on a trade.

This offseason is going to resemble our last one unless Snow takes a chance and can make a deal.
- Isles_since_6

We all know and I'm pretty sure even Columbus knows Wiz isn't worth that. You could also look at it from the other end where as teams aren't going to spend as much based on those contracts and what they got from them. Suter will make his money but it may not be as much as we think. Then again some stupid team will probably make him the highest paid d-man in the league for all we knoe.

I mentioned this a few weeks ago..I really want to make a legit run at Boychuk if he gets to free agency. He can actually play defense and loves to hit.
- eichiefs9

Boychuk is the type of solid FA Snow needs to focus on. Snow needs to hit the solid lesser known FA's quick and forget the Star FA's he has no chance on. Snow will just lose out on the Boychuk types that could help.

Boychuk is the type of solid FA Snow needs to focus on. Snow needs to hit the solid lesser known FA's quick and forget the Star FA's he has no chance on. Snow will just lose out on the Boychuk types that could help.
- ses111

I often disagree with you but that's bang on. Fax over one big offer to Parise's agent, one to Suter's and start pounding the phones on the other guys. If one of the big one's comes back? Sick. But when they almost definitely don't, at least your attention is focused in reality.

If he can move Streit (doubtful), Wideman would be a nice replacement assuming Washington doesn't/can't re-sign him. Boychuk is my #1 realistic signing hopeful. Carle and Oduya also would be upgrades over what we have now. And before anyone points it out, yes I realize that a garbage can with a stick taped to it would be an upgrade.

I often disagree with you but that's bang on. Fax over one big offer to Parise's agent, one to Suter's and start pounding the phones on the other guys. If one of the big one's comes back? Sick. But when they almost definitely don't, at least your attention is focused in reality.

If he can move Streit (doubtful), Wideman would be a nice replacement assuming Washington doesn't/can't re-sign him. Boychuk is my #1 realistic signing hopeful. Carle and Oduya also would be upgrades over what we have now. And before anyone points it out, yes I realize that a garbage can with a stick taped to it would be an upgrade.
- eichiefs9

You often disagree with me? I have no problem with Snow still making huge offers to Parise and Suter he just cannot lose out on the Boychuk types or any players he needs in trades. Snow needs to identify guys he has a real chance at early and go get them.

suter/weber is widely regarded as the best defense pair in the league. If wis is worth 6.5, it could be insane bidding for suter. Detroit will have cap room, as will several other big markets, so the chances of the Isles attracting Suter's interest is pretty minimal. Sadly, with so many teams now signing their important ufa's prior to the end of the season, we get left looking at free agent markets like last year, where an Ehrhoff looks like a number 1 defenseman because everything else available is crap or depth signings. The amount of money thrown at players who don't deserve half the salary is ridiculous. See Leino for an example at forward.

The offseason is an easier road for the large market teams with a recent successful track record, and even more of an uphill climb for teams with a losing history, especially when Snow clearly doesn't want to grossly overpay.

The chances of the Isles picking up a great UFA in the offseason is next to nil. They're going to have to either develop through the draft or pull the trigger on a trade.

This offseason is going to resemble our last one unless Snow takes a chance and can make a deal.
- Isles_since_6

Would be suprised if they try and sign a Free Agent that will make more than Tavares. I think they want JT to be the highest paid player.

Would be suprised if they try and sign a Free Agent that will make more than Tavares. I think they want JT to be the highest paid player.
- kear20

Something tells me that JT doesn't care what anyone else gets paid. Especially if said player/s will help the team win.