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77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 8 @ 8:50 PM ET
This time of year, it's contagious. Regardless of any scenario, the key is not making a bad deal. No deal is better than a bad one. And yes, fire is hot
- Jsaquella


That's what makes sports interesting. That's why the TD, June 1st, and draft day are so popular and exciting.

Every February, the trees are filled with underwear. Every June, the toilets explode.

Personally, I'm not married to anybody on this team and wouldn't lose sleep regardless of who was traded. I watched Bernie move and move back again. I remember Boston letting Orr walk, the Lindros fiasco, Gretzky's teary eyed presser...

And yet somehow, life went on.

It makes for great (usually) conversation and debate before, during and after.
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM ET
not dressing. just a lug.
- isaiah520


schultz at 2.75, trade would indeed give him some confidence/motivation

schultz for a 3rd
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 8 @ 8:53 PM ET
schultz at 2.75, trade would indeed give him some confidence/motivation

schultz for a 3rd

- Flyers4Life88


6'6 220 1st round pick in 2004...c'mon
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 8 @ 8:54 PM ET
6'6 220 1st round pick in 2004...c'mon
- Flyers4Life88


Why would Washington do that?
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 8 @ 8:55 PM ET
Why would Washington do that?
- MBFlyerfan


He hasn't dressed in weeks.....why he hasnt played idk....if they're not playing doesn't that mean they dont want him?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM ET
I wouldn't mind having any of those guys but not at the expense of anything more than a Phantom or late round pick.

Oh meant to say this earlier but at the game last night I saw Carle give a few nice shots behind the play- i.e he is not soft. Does he play bonecrushing hockey? No but his style of play is necessary. If we didn't have him things would be worse than they are. Yes he had a couple bad plays last night but so what? it happens just like once in a while the goalie is gonna give up one he wished he had back. People just gotta go with it at this point. I think not just flyer fans but sports fans in general are conditioned to be in this trade mentality.
Granted there is times for trades but right now this group of players has a ton of potential. We might not see it coming this year, but believe me we are sitting on a gold mine of a hockey team people.

- JoeRussomanno

homer, knowing about the range that carle will demand, may think that JJ locked in for 6 yrs at 4.35 is better value. carle prob gets ~ 5MM.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM ET
He hasn't dressed in weeks.....why he hasnt played idk....if they're not playing doesn't that mean they dont want him?
- Flyers4Life88


I mean, why would Washington trade with the Flyers?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM ET
homer, knowing about the range that carle will demand, may think that JJ locked in for 6 yrs at 4.35 is better value. carle prob gets ~ 5MM.
- isaiah520

If they can't resign him they gotta do what they gotta do. Be a shame to see him go- who knows what's going on.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM ET
6'6 220 1st round pick in 2004...c'mon
- Flyers4Life88

that's a lot of coin for a guy who was living off of greens halcyon days. he's a #5-6 guy who's worth ~ 1-1.5MM tops. poor value.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM ET
Gagner scores again. Dude is on fire.
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM ET
I mean, why would Washington trade with the Flyers?
- MBFlyerfan


to get a 3rd round pick for a guy that aint even playing....
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:01 PM ET
Sorry Bo. Know what you mean. Ive been sucked into it a lot haha. Need to get back to the old days of posting random crazy poop.

There are topics here that go on and on. Forsberg. J-Bow. Kovy. Carter/Richards. Stamkos. You name it.

Whats new my sweet sassy lass?

- flyer_nutter

11 hour workdays. But today I just left after 9 hours. That'll show em! And it's finally SNOWING!
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:02 PM ET
I'll probably get laughed off the net but if we can keep the guys we have on the Blueline and just build that would be perfect in my book. People say they are tired of this guy or that and want someone they think will be the knight in shining armor.
Its like married people getting divorced because they can't deal with the issues already entwined in a marriage when the partner isn't the issue. Hope I didn't get too deep there trying to do a paper for school and talking hockey throws me out of character

anyway yes we have gone through some growing pains with this group and there is a lot more to sports than swapping in and out parts. Sometimes trades work wonderfully for teams but a lot of times they don't. Does the defense need help? yes but I don't want to overturn half the roster to get it. This is a young team that needs to grow. For all we know MAB and Gustafson could be Beast and Howe in 3-4 years then what? I'm sorry but under no circumstances do I want to trade Couturier or Schenn at this point. I do not want to trade JVR either. IF we must trade one of them it better be good gosh darn deal. Team just needs to grow IMHO and their franchise goalie needs perhaps some more time to adapt. People just need some patience.

- JoeRussomanno


You may sit over here with me. I'll make an apple tart.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:03 PM ET
That's what makes sports interesting. That's why the TD, June 1st, and draft day are so popular and exciting.

Every February, the trees are filled with underwear. Every June, the toilets explode.

Personally, I'm not married to anybody on this team and wouldn't lose sleep regardless of who was traded. I watched Bernie move and move back again. I remember Boston letting Orr walk, the Lindros fiasco, Gretzky's teary eyed presser...

And yet somehow, life went on.

It makes for great (usually) conversation and debate before, during and after.

- 77rams

It gives me agita.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:05 PM ET
not dressing. just a lug.
- isaiah520



I have less then zero interest in taking on Shultz 2.75 for two more years after this one.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:05 PM ET
It gives me agita.

- bodiva88


take some tums
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 8 @ 9:05 PM ET
I'll probably get laughed off the net but if we can keep the guys we have on the Blueline and just build that would be perfect in my book.......... People just need some patience.
- JoeRussomanno


Im on the record with you. I want them to stay put. MAYBE....MAYBE....make a small deal to fill a hole. But I would rather let the team develop and fill the holes through FA in the off season.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:08 PM ET
You may sit over here with me. I'll make an apple tart.
- bodiva88

yes ma'am
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 8 @ 9:11 PM ET
Lots of EA sports deals being proposed in here today....
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 8 @ 9:13 PM ET
yes ma'am

- JoeRussomanno



Excuse me, do you happen to have the proper license for that Spock? It happens to be a violation of Starfleet regulation to impersonate a Starfleet officer.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:15 PM ET
Im on the record with you. I want them to stay put. MAYBE....MAYBE....make a small deal to fill a hole. But I would rather let the team develop and fill the holes through FA in the off season.
- MBFlyerfan

and another thing- we do not know if Pronger can comeback for the playoffs or next season and be Chris Pronger.

Yes his concussion is bad but even Lindros came back after that vicious Stevens hit which was after other multiple concussions. I'd really hate to write him off completely right now.

Furthermore my gut tells me he gives it one more attempt because he is an oldschool player. I truly believe he feels more bad about letting us down than anything because he's one of those old world warrior types. Yes he's had a heckuva career but remember Dennis Quaid's character in Any Given sunday? Those type of guys won't let an injury do them in without one last go at strapping up and getting out there. Even lappy admitted lying to the Doctors so he could play. Pronger is no different.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:16 PM ET
Lots of EA sports deals being proposed in here today....

- MBFlyerfan

The Iginla one really needs to die.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:16 PM ET

Excuse me, do you happen to have the proper license for that Spock? It happens to be a violation of Starfleet regulation to impersonate a Starfleet officer.

- BulliesPhan87

No I don't
Man I gotta figure out that giff stuff
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:16 PM ET
Lots of EA sports deals being proposed in here today....

- MBFlyerfan

I'm getting offered Vinny Prospal on a daily basis.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 8 @ 9:18 PM ET
No I don't
Man I gotta figure out that giff stuff

- JoeRussomanno

It would be a violation of the Prime Directive to share my gif posting technologies with a pre-warp civilization
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