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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 8 @ 7:22 PM ET
in German "Es besteht kein Zweifel"
- 2Real


in Italian "Senza dubbio di esso"
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:23 PM ET
in Italian "Senza dubbio di esso"
- stveshdy

in Dutch "geen twijfel over het"
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 7:24 PM ET
If they're moving Johnson, it's unlikely that they move Greene, too.

It's interesting, if they trade for Johnson, what is the cost? Is it just picks/prospects? More likely a pick and a roster guy at least, or a good roster guy like JvR or Voracek.

If they add Johnson, do they move Carle before the season ends? I'd be surprised if they add Johnson and Carle re-signs. If they put Carle on the table, can they get a guy like Boychuk? Or do they try to land a forward for Carle ?

- Jsaquella

I was thinking maybe they move greene instead of Johnson, ugh its frustrating, I just want the deadline over yesterday so this stuff can calm down for a few months
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 8 @ 7:24 PM ET
in Dutch "geen twijfel over het"
- 2Real


In French "sans aucun doute de lui"
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 8 @ 7:25 PM ET
Who you think would come cheaper JJ or Schenn?
- stveshdy


If it's Schenn it's because Burke wants JvR.

Johnson, if not for JvR, might be had for a Voracek package. The Kings need offense.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 8 @ 7:26 PM ET
I was thinking maybe they move greene instead of Johnson, ugh its frustrating, I just want the deadline over yesterday so this stuff can calm down for a few months
- JoeRussomanno


I like the deadline.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 8 @ 7:26 PM ET
I was thinking maybe they move greene instead of Johnson, ugh its frustrating, I just want the deadline over yesterday so this stuff can calm down for a few months
- JoeRussomanno


I know who wont be getting traded at the deadline, Ilya Bryzgalov. Guy is a monster in the last few weeks. His numbers dont like as he is getting much better.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:26 PM ET
In French "sans aucun doute de lui"
- stveshdy

in Russian "Нет сомнений в отношении его"
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 8 @ 7:27 PM ET
in Russian "Нет сомнений в отношении его"
- 2Real


In Thai "ไม่ต้องสงสัยเลยว่าเกี่ยวกับมัน"
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:28 PM ET
If it's Schenn it's because Burke wants JvR.

Johnson, if not for JvR, might be had for a Voracek package. The Kings need offense.

- Jsaquella


I'm interested in seeing how bad Burke wants JVR.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 8 @ 7:29 PM ET
If it's Schenn it's because Burke wants JvR.

Johnson, if not for JvR, might be had for a Voracek package. The Kings need offense.

- Jsaquella


If the Flyers can trade Voracek and a pick for Johnson would you make that deal?

I dont know what round the pick would be though. Im guessing in the 1st or 2nd round imo.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 8 @ 7:29 PM ET
I was thinking maybe they move greene instead of Johnson, ugh its frustrating, I just want the deadline over yesterday so this stuff can calm down for a few months
- JoeRussomanno

You do know as soon as the TDL comes and goes, there'll be the dissatisfied fans who begin looking to draft day trades we have to make, right?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:29 PM ET
I'm interested in seeing how bad Burke wants JVR.
- ob18


I'm sure his interest could be peaked if JVR can get back on the ice, or at least close to it.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:29 PM ET
In Thai "ไม่ต้องสงสัยเลยว่าเกี่ยวกับมัน"
- stveshdy

in Swedish "Ingen tvekan om det"
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 7:30 PM ET
You do know as soon as the TDL comes and goes, there'll be the dissatisfied fans who begin looking to draft day trades we have to make, right?
- BulliesPhan87

yes
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 8 @ 7:31 PM ET
The first place I saw anyone mention it was Dennis Bernstein of TFP suggesting a JvR for JJ swap, right after Pronger got hurt.

There's a few rumor guys that have kept the fire warm since. Of course there's guys still milking JvR for Schenn.

- Jsaquella

thanks
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 8 @ 7:31 PM ET
I'm interested in seeing how bad Burke wants JVR.
- ob18


JvR being hurt may slow that process down. Nobody knows when he will be out on the ice playing in games again. If he wasnt injured you would think Burke would be offering legit deals.

Those rumors of JvR & Read for Schenn are just ludacris.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:32 PM ET
JvR being hurt may slow that process down. Nobody knows when he will be out on the ice playing in games again. If he wasnt injured you would think Burke would be offering legit deals.

Those rumors of JvR & Read for Schenn are just ludacris.

- stveshdy

no it's not if we're getting Schenn Kadri and a pick back
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 8 @ 7:33 PM ET
yes
- JoeRussomanno

Metal health (and hockey rumors) will drive you mad
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 8 @ 7:33 PM ET
no it's not if we're getting Schenn Kadri and a pick back
- 2Real


I didnt hear about all that. The rumor I read had JvR & Read for Schenn (and thats it). I dont think my 2 year old daughter would make that deal.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 7:34 PM ET
Metal health (and hockey rumors) will drive you mad
- BulliesPhan87

but they can cure your crazy
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 7:38 PM ET
Read and jvr stay people. No way they leave unless Holmer is absolutely blown away. I think voracek is the trade bait. Don't know what the interest would be for him.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:40 PM ET
Read and jvr stay people. No way they leave unless Holmer is absolutely blown away. I think voracek is the trade bait. Don't know what the interest would be for him.
- Just5

Voracek is better than both combined he's staying JVARGH fakes injuries he can shove off
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:42 PM ET
He is a young talented kid. He may not be the best defenseman in the league but he will get better. Contract, Age, Potential, Need, its something the Flyers should seriously consider if the asking price is right.
- stveshdy

What about Flyers fans makes you think getting a young defenseman that will get better is the way they'll want to go? They still think Carle is the same player he was when he got here. Every player stays in their minds as he was when he arrived.

I kind of wish we could keep the mid-career defensemen we've already been through growing pains with (Carle and Coby). Keep the young guys who's growing pains will be at least our own guys growing pains (Gusty and MAB). Keep the guy who needed a change of scenery (Meszaros) and find someone to replace the fully mature player we sadly will likely not see again (Pronger). But do you do that now? Or when Timmo's deal is up?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:43 PM ET
Read and jvr stay people. No way they leave unless Holmer is absolutely blown away. I think voracek is the trade bait. Don't know what the interest would be for him.
- Just5


If your asking me who I would trade out of the 3, it's Voracek. But I have no idea how Holmgren feels towards that. I guess we'll find out.
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