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I agree with Voracek being the most expendable but I'm hoping no forwards are dealt and Homer keeps his options open for the off season. I'd be happy with Holmgren renting a UFA to be Dman for a reasonable price. I think there is too much uncertain with the team right now to risk making a big move.

Pronger's health, Carle's contract status and whether Jagr will be back next year are all things Holmer needs to evaluate before making another drastic move IMO.
- Baxter27

This is all just speculation on my part. I'm not really worried about Jagr coming back. I think you do that if you have the Cap space available. But I would have no problem with not bringing him back. He's 40 years old. If they would get Schenn for Voracek, they would have the option of trading a defenseman and then jumping into the UFA market if someone like Suter is there.

The biggest issue is what happens with the Cap. I've heard some things that I don't like, but that's just speculation also.

I know you guys are gonna hate on me put I wouldn't mind this
To phl: jack Johnson + Kyle clifford
To la: jake v + mab
Then
To phl: Hal gill
To mtl: 4th + ahl'er

I know you guys are gonna hate on me put I wouldn't mind this
To phl: jack Johnson + Kyle clifford
To la: jake v + mab
Then
To phl: Hal gill
To mtl: 4th + ahl'er
- griouxmvp2012

LA needs a pure goal scorer, not a setup man. jake may be able to get schenn, but not JJ, imo.

This is all just speculation on my part. I'm not really worried about Jagr coming back. I think you do that if you have the Cap space available. But I would have no problem with not bringing him back. He's 40 years old. If they would get Schenn for Voracek, they would have the option of trading a defenseman and then jumping into the UFA market if someone like Suter is there.

The biggest issue is what happens with the Cap. I've heard some things that I don't like, but that's just speculation also.
- MJL

schenn for jake seems like a decent deal, but I don't think he fits the mold of what burkes looking for.

LA needs a pure goal scorer, not a setup man. jake may be able to get schenn, but not JJ, imo.
- isaiah520

The Leafs are in the market for the same. So I'm not sure if they would be interested in Jake at the cost of Schenn either.

The Leafs are in the market for the same. So I'm not sure if they would be interested in Jake at the cost of Schenn either.
- Baxter27

Neither am I.

The Leafs are in the market for the same. So I'm not sure if they would be interested in Jake at the cost of Schenn either.
- Baxter27

I had no idea Vorcacek had that much value. I'd be OK with Vorcacek+(Sestito or Harry Z) for Schenn. I just hate the idea of losing JVR.

I had no idea Vorcacek had that much value. I'd be OK with Vorcacek+(Sestito or Harry Z) for Schenn. I just hate the idea of losing JVR.
- steelydan

None of us really know what Voracek's value would be in a deal. Were all just speculating.

I had no idea Vorcacek had that much value. I'd be OK with Vorcacek+(Sestito or Harry Z) for Schenn. I just hate the idea of losing JVR.
- steelydan

Voracek is a 22 year old playmaker with a lot of skill and size to boot. He's definitely a valuable asset.

Voracek is a 22 year old playmaker with a lot of skill and size to boot. He's definitely a valuable asset.
- LordStanley88

Similar to his role in the Richards trade, I look at him as a strong compliment in a trade. However, if he does bring the value of a centerpiece in a trade for Schenn, I'd have a hard time saying no to the trade.

So you guys don't like my trade proposal up above??

Similar to his role in the Richards trade, I look at him as a strong compliment in a trade. However, if he does bring the value of a centerpiece in a trade for Schenn, I'd have a hard time saying no to the trade.
- steelydan

Voracek came in the Carter deal.

Voracek came in the Carter deal.
- MJL

Shhhhhh.


Similar to his role in the Carter trade, I look at him as a strong compliment in a trade. However, if he does bring the value of a centerpiece in a trade for Schenn, I'd have a hard time saying no to the trade.

Shhhhhh.


Similar to his role in the Carter trade, I look at him as a strong compliment in a trade. However, if he does bring the value of a centerpiece in a trade for Schenn, I'd have a hard time saying no to the trade.
- steelydan

There you go. I knew what you meant.

Which also begs the question. If he has so much interest in him and seems like he could be available for a fair price; why is he available? Wouldn't Burke want to hold onto this sort of franchise player that teams tend to build around? People always speak how franchise forwards are commodities compared to franchise defenseman. Why is Burke "seemingly" okay with giving up Schenn?
- steelydan

Not when they have so much defensive depth

So you guys don't like my trade proposal up above??
- griouxmvp2012

No, JJ isnt reliable defensively which is what we need

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- griouxmvp2012

actually phillies pitchers and catchers report to spring training in 11 days

actually phillies pitchers and catchers report to spring training in 11 days
- watsonnostaw

papelbon!

papelbon!
- flyfan1212

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I'm not fired up about trading JVR either. Out of any of the young forwards, the one I'd be most willing to deal, would be Voracek. If I was Holmgren, he would be the bait if needed.
- MJL

I agree, which is why I asked earlier today if anyone would be willing to take on Dustin Brown for Jake Voracek. There is a lot of unknown heading into next season and in my opinion there is nothing wrong with preparing right now as we head into the playoffs. Voracek is a play maker and Jagr isn't exactly scoring in bunches. At the moment I really miss Jeff Carter's shot from anywhere, wing or center. Brown is a scorer and he plays a physical game. He's also young and his cap hit is affordable with a couple years left on it.

I agree, which is why I asked earlier today if anyone would be willing to take on Dustin Brown for Jake Voracek. There is a lot of unknown heading into next season and in my opinion there is nothing wrong with preparing right now as we head into the playoffs. Voracek is a play maker and Jagr isn't exactly scoring in bunches. At the moment I really miss Jeff Carter's shot from anywhere, wing or center. Brown is a scorer and he plays a physical game. He's also young and his cap hit is affordable with a couple years left on it.
- Schenn2shine

oh god you miss that idiot would you rather not have the amazing voracek and couturier?

Voracek is a 22 year old playmaker with a lot of skill and size to boot. He's definitely a valuable asset.
- LordStanley88

Problem is Toronto is supposively looking for a Power Forward. Dont think Voracek fits that description.

If Toronto would take Voracek + for Schenn I would pull the trigger on that move and I like Voraceks game.

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- 2Real

I agree, which is why I asked earlier today if anyone would be willing to take on Dustin Brown for Jake Voracek. There is a lot of unknown heading into next season and in my opinion there is nothing wrong with preparing right now as we head into the playoffs. Voracek is a play maker and Jagr isn't exactly scoring in bunches. At the moment I really miss Jeff Carter's shot from anywhere, wing or center. Brown is a scorer and he plays a physical game. He's also young and his cap hit is affordable with a couple years left on it.
- Schenn2shine

Dustin Brown is a nice player. But if I'm trading a young forward, I'd like a defenseman in return.