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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 6:01 PM ET
Good.

My take on it is: early season comments + mid season soft goals = playoff meltdown.

- rockychocbill


To each his own. I'm going to remain positive and give Bryzgalov every chance to succeed here. And I see no reason why, by the time the playoffs role around, he can't have his game together. And if he doesn't then I'll think the same next year.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 6 @ 6:02 PM ET
Who's talking about credibility of a player? I personally have no problem with what Timonen said. But calling out a player on your team to the press is either throwing a teammate under the bus or it isn't. Regardless of who says it.
- MJL

I missed Kimmo's comments. What was said?
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 6:03 PM ET
To each his own. I'm going to remain positive and give Bryzgalov every chance to succeed here. And I see no reason why, by the time the playoffs role around, he can't have his game together. And if he doesn't then I'll think the same next year.
- MJL


Hope springs eternal.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 6 @ 6:03 PM ET
Why Tom Petty?
- bodiva88


Tom Petty seems like he would appeal to the Super Bowl watching demographic more than Madonna
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 6 @ 6:03 PM ET
There's been a handful of teams that have had that need. A top defensive defenseman who makes a good first pass, is just as valuable to a team. Especially one such as the Flyers, who have that need. Each situation is unique depending on the needs of the team.
- MJL

flyers need another puck mover if they are getting a young dman given carle's status and the pronger/kimmo age dynamic. ok?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 6 @ 6:03 PM ET
Fair enough. Bryzgalov's play deserves to be called out. If someone interprets that as throwing him under the bus so be it.

I posed this question about three weeks ago, and I didn't see any answers that explained why this was the case:
A lot of folks have blamed the Flyers defensive coverage as to one of the reasons Bryzgalov has struggled, that being said how can it be explained that Curtis Sanford of the Blue Jackets has posted a significantly higher save %'s than Bryzgalov has? Does Columbus have fewer defensive zone coverage breakdowns than the Flyers do? Hard for me to imagine the worst team in the NHL would be better defensively than a top 10 team.

- PLindbergh31


I dont know, but JVR for Sanford
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 6 @ 6:03 PM ET
Good.

My take on it is: early season comments + mid season soft goals = playoff meltdown.

- rockychocbill


If he poops himself during the playoffs after what has been a disgrace of a regular season to this point, it's going to be open season.

Can you imagine the circus it would be if Bobrovsky starts game 2 or 3 of a playoff series.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 6 @ 6:04 PM ET
I dont know, but JVR for Sanford
- Just5


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 6:05 PM ET
Fair enough. Bryzgalov's play deserves to be called out. If someone interprets that as throwing him under the bus so be it.

I posed this question about three weeks ago, and I didn't see any answers that explained why this was the case:
A lot of folks have blamed the Flyers defensive coverage as to one of the reasons Bryzgalov has struggled, that being said how can it be explained that Curtis Sanford of the Blue Jackets has posted a significantly higher save %'s than Bryzgalov has? Does Columbus have fewer defensive zone coverage breakdowns than the Flyers do? Hard for me to imagine the worst team in the NHL would be better defensively than a top 10 team.

- PLindbergh31


Mason and Sanford have played the same amount of games for the same team. One has a .918 SV% and the other has a .881%. How is that possible? That'll answer your question.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 6 @ 6:05 PM ET
Hope springs eternal.
- rockychocbill

Hey, Alexander Pope is my bit, get your own!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 6:05 PM ET
flyers need another puck mover if they are getting a young dman given carle's status and the pronger/kimmo age dynamic. ok?
- isaiah520


Who has said they don't need another puck mover? I'm pretty sure that's why most people are interested in Suter and or Weber.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 6 @ 6:06 PM ET
i hope timonen literally throws bryz under a bus so we can get a real goalie
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 6:08 PM ET
If he poops himself during the playoffs after what has been a disgrace of a regular season to this point, it's going to be open season.

Can you imagine the circus it would be if Bobrovsky starts game 2 or 3 of a playoff series.

- PLindbergh31


And it should be open Season if Bryzgalov plays poorly in the playoffs. He will deserve it. But I will still look at it objectively, and give criticism on every player who deserves it. Not just who I choose to single out.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 6 @ 6:08 PM ET
Mason and Sanford have played the same amount of games for the same team. One has a .918 SV% and the other has a .881%. How is that possible? That'll answer your question.
- MJL


It doesn't answer my question. What does Mason have to do with Bryzgalov? I asked why does a goaltender on the worst team in the sport have a better save % than Bryzgalov does?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 6:09 PM ET
It doesn't answer my question. What does Mason have to do with Bryzgalov? I asked why does a goaltender on the worst team in the sport have a better save % than Bryzgalov does?
- PLindbergh31


It absolutely answers your question.

And if Mason doesn't have anything to do with Bryzgalov. What does Sanford have to do with Bryzgalov?
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Feb 6 @ 6:10 PM ET
flyers need another puck mover if they are getting a young dman given carle's status and the pronger/kimmo age dynamic. ok?
- isaiah520

We need some defensemen that can play physical. I wouldnt say Schenn is a bad puck mover, he's got some nice hands but the fact is that our d just arent very physical.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 6 @ 6:11 PM ET
It doesn't answer my question. What does Mason have to do with Bryzgalov? I asked why does a goaltender on the worst team in the sport have a better save % than Bryzgalov does?
- PLindbergh31

He's not required to answer your question.

And I don't see how it answers the question.

But let's move on.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Feb 6 @ 6:11 PM ET
i hope timonen literally throws bryz under a bus so we can get a real goalie
- 2Real

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 6 @ 6:13 PM ET
It absolutely answers your question.
- MJL


this
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 6:13 PM ET
Mason and Sanford have played the same amount of games for the same team. One has a .918 SV% and the other has a .881%. How is that possible? That'll answer your question.
- MJL


The team likes one goalie better than the other?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 6:14 PM ET
He's not required to answer your question.

And I don't see how it answers the question.

But let's move on.

- bodiva88


Here's how it answers the question. Two goalies playing for the same team, one has a higher SV% then the other. Because one has played better then the other. Let's take that same concept and consider Bryzgalov. Sanford has better numbers then Bryzgalov because Sanford has played better then Bryzgalov. Same concept, same answer.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 6:15 PM ET
If he poops himself during the playoffs after what has been a disgrace of a regular season to this point, it's going to be open season.

Can you imagine the circus it would be if Bobrovsky starts game 2 or 3 of a playoff series.

- PLindbergh31


Don't forget about Leighton.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 6 @ 6:16 PM ET
We need some defensemen that can play physical. I wouldnt say Schenn is a bad puck mover, he's got some nice hands but the fact is that our d just arent very physical.
- Richieattack18


Do you watch him play? Who would he pair with best on the Flyers? What is his ceiling and why are we trading a young guy who is hurt this year and who looked to be a cornerstone for the franchise in the playoffs last year for this guy?
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 6:16 PM ET
Here's how it answers the question. Two goalies playing for the same team, one has a higher SV% then the other. Because one has played better then the other. Let's take that same concept and consider Bryzgalov. Sanford has better numbers then Bryzgalov because Sanford has played better then Bryzgalov. Same concept, same answer.
- MJL


That was too easy. I really thought there was a brain teaser in there somewhere.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 6 @ 6:17 PM ET
Do you watch him play? Who would he pair with best on the Flyers? What is his ceiling and why are we trading a young guy who is hurt this year and who looked to be a cornerstone for the franchise in the playoffs last year for this guy?
- Just5

If you're talking about Schenn, I'd pair him with Carle or Gus.
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