LOL @ the Bryz haters. When Bryz blamed his teammates for deflections, etc.; I am sure you guys were crying foul and upset that he threw his teammates under the bus. Kimmo does the same thing and gets congratulated for being a hero? STFU....... It's embarrassing how much people are willing to overlook the hypocrisy when it serves their purpose of crying about the goaltending. The day the Flyers shore up their goaltending is the day that they lose 50% of the fanbase because there's nothing left to b*tch about.....
- steelydan

A team captain, and best defenseman has called out the sieve level goaltending the team is getting. What a selfish unaccountable (frank)ing clown he is. Strip the "A" off his sweater and send him to Adirondack.

A team captain, and best defenseman has called out the sieve level goaltending the team is getting. What a selfish unaccountable (frank)ing clown he is. Strip the "A" off his sweater and send him to Adirondack.
- PLindbergh31

A team captain, and best defenseman has called out the sieve level goaltending the team is getting. What a selfish unaccountable (frank)ing clown he is. Strip the "A" off his sweater and send him to Adirondack.
- PLindbergh31

Where's 24/7 when you really need it?

Hey! Would any of you trade Jake Voracek for Dustin Brown?

LOL @ the Bryz haters. When Bryz blamed his teammates for deflections, etc.; I am sure you guys were crying foul and upset that he threw his teammates under the bus. Kimmo does the same thing and gets congratulated for being a hero? STFU....... It's embarrassing how much people are willing to overlook the hypocrisy when it serves their purpose of crying about the goaltending. The day the Flyers shore up their goaltending is the day that they lose 50% of the fanbase because there's nothing left to b*tch about.....
- steelydan

99% don't hate Bryz. They just want to see him play consistently.
I think more people are upset that even after the Flyers traded their two cornerstone players and clearly decided to go for a rebuild, they put a lot of eggs in one basket with the 9 year goalie deal. That isn't Bryz's fault, but he gets blamed for it wrongly.

The last two Rangers games the Flyer's goalies (both of them) were the main reason they lost.
Not the only reason, but certainly the biggest one.

And Kimmo has earned the right to say what he wants.
He is always a straight shooter.

Hey! Would any of you trade Jake Voracek for Dustin Brown?
- Schenn2shine

Only for Richards

A team captain, and best defenseman has called out the sieve level goaltending the team is getting. What a selfish unaccountable (frank)ing clown he is. Strip the "A" off his sweater and send him to Adirondack.
- PLindbergh31

The point he is making is that although Timonen is telling the truth, so was Bryzgalov with some of the comments he made concerning the defenseman and the deflection goals. And Bryzgalov was criticized for throwing his teammates under the bus. So how is what Timonen did any different? The poster was talking about looking at things consistently. And he is right.

99% don't hate Bryz. They just want to see him play consistently.
I think more people are upset that even after the Flyers traded their two cornerstone players and clearly decided to go for a rebuild, they put a lot of eggs in one basket with the 9 year goalie deal. That isn't Bryz's fault, but he gets blamed for it wrongly.

The last two Rangers games the Flyer's goalies (both of them) were the main reason they lost.
Not the only reason, but certainly the biggest one.

And Kimmo has earned the right to say what he wants.
He is always a straight shooter.
- Marc D

LOL @ the Bryz haters. When Bryz blamed his teammates for deflections, etc.; I am sure you guys were crying foul and upset that he threw his teammates under the bus. Kimmo does the same thing and gets congratulated for being a hero? STFU....... It's embarrassing how much people are willing to overlook the hypocrisy when it serves their purpose of crying about the goaltending. The day the Flyers shore up their goaltending is the day that they lose 50% of the fanbase because there's nothing left to b*tch about.....
- steelydan

No hypocrisy here at all.

I don't hate Bryz. In fact, I'm looking forward to a long and productive career here. But right now, he's playing under his capabilities. And when you're preforming less than you should, you don't point fingers.

Now if Coburn or even Giroux complained, I'd agree and tell them to shut up also. But when someone with the pedigree that Timo addresses a problem, I stand up and listen. Timo walks the walk.

And if we find another Parent or Hextall or Pelle, I'll be the first to sing his praises like I sang Bernie's, Hexy's and Pelle's.

The point he is making is that although Timonen is telling the truth, so was Bryzgalov with some of the comments he made concerning the defenseman and the deflection goals. And Bryzgalov was criticized for throwing his teammates under the bus. So how is what Timonen did any different? The poster was talking about looking at things consistently. And he is right.
- MJL

Exactly, 10 games into his Flyers career, Bryzgalov has the same credibility as Timonen does.

Only for Richards
- Scottie Upshall

To be honest, because of Brayden Schenn, I've completely forgot about Mike Richards at this point. When Schenn was traded here, it was believed that Schenn played a similar style as Richards. Some never really saw it but I totally do now with the scoring, hitting and fighting. I felt Richards really lost that edge nearing his time at the end of being a Flyer. He's found that spark once again in LA but the fighting and hitting really slowed down his last season here. If anything, I miss Carter's scoring more then anything else right now.

A team captain, and best defenseman has called out the sieve level goaltending the team is getting. What a selfish unaccountable (frank)ing clown he is. Strip the "A" off his sweater and send him to Adirondack.
- PLindbergh31

I see what you did there. You took what I said, and then took it to the nth degree. Funny stuff there. Now that we have that stuff out of our system.....

I get it. Sieve. 10 million dollar goalie. You like your sayings. They get old; let's try to make some points instead of throwing out our token insults every day.

An honest "TEAM" captain wouldn't hold 1 player accountable for a "TEAM" effort. How was it described? Quickly and quietly? Yeah, there's your fearless leader. Please look up what double-standard means, because it's truly sickening how the same action is praised in 1 situation but rebuked in the other.

- bradleyc4

I mean, why didn't they just sign him for a 4-5 year deal.
That would be tradable if it didn't work.

I'm pretty sure he will settle down and improve (by next year?), but the length of the deal is pretty laughable.

That was one of the reasons you often hear about the Carter/Richards trades, they wanted to make a move before their no trade clause kicked in.

Why didn't they apply this logic to the goalie deal???

The point he is making is that although Timonen is telling the truth, so was Bryzgalov with some of the comments he made concerning the defenseman and the deflection goals. And Bryzgalov was criticized for throwing his teammates under the bus. So how is what Timonen did any different? The poster was talking about looking at things consistently. And he is right.
- MJL

Bryz should have shut his pie hole. Cracking under that little bit of adversity at the start of a season gives me all the confidence in the world come playoffs. Not.

99% don't hate Bryz. They just want to see him play consistently.
I think more people are upset that even after the Flyers traded their two cornerstone players and clearly decided to go for a rebuild, they put a lot of eggs in one basket with the 9 year goalie deal. That isn't Bryz's fault, but he gets blamed for it wrongly.

The last two Rangers games the Flyer's goalies (both of them) were the main reason they lost.
Not the only reason, but certainly the biggest one.

And Kimmo has earned the right to say what he wants.
He is always a straight shooter.
- Marc D

So it's a rebuilding year. And Bryz has shown signs of steering the ship back into a positive direction, only to have a poor performance against one of the NHL's top team. So if we put all of our eggs in a 9-year contract, why are people jumping off bridges after 1/18th of the contract? As you stated, it's a rebuild year; where is the patience?

And no player "earns" the right to single out ONE player to the media, of all people. I don't care if it was Pronger or Kapanen or Laperierre. It just shouldn't happen. Bryz was wrong to do it; so is Kimmo.

And don't mistake me sticking up for Bryz as my endorsement of his MVP-calibre season. He has fallen grossly under everyone's expectations. I get on him all the time for his soft goals and turtle-like reflexes. However, I'm not ready to buy out his contract yet, and I'm certainly not ready to say that he is the reason this team lost on Sunday.

I mean, why didn't they just sign him for a 4-5 year deal.
That would be tradable if it didn't work.

I'm pretty sure he will settle down and improve (by next year?), but the length of the deal is pretty laughable.

That was one of the reasons you often hear about the Carter/Richards trades, they wanted to make a move before their no trade clause kicked in.

Why didn't they apply this logic to the goalie deal???
- Marc D

1. Trading an asset for his rights didn't exactly give them a lot of leverage in contract talks

2. Common speculation is that Snider demanded this signing. It's generally not a good idea for an owner to get involved with hockey decisions.

3. I wish laughter was my initial reaction when hearing about this contract

I was watching the sequel to The fantastic Four and I realized Bryz is the silver surfer. Everywhere he goes he leaves huge gaping holes and desrtoys the future.

I see what you did there. You took what I said, and then took it to the nth degree. Funny stuff there. Now that we have that stuff out of our system.....

I get it. Sieve. 10 million dollar goalie. You like your sayings. They get old; let's try to make some points instead of throwing out our token insults every day.

An honest "TEAM" captain wouldn't hold 1 player accountable for a "TEAM" effort. How was it described? Quickly and quietly? Yeah, there's your fearless leader. Please look up what double-standard means, because it's truly sickening how the same action is praised in 1 situation but rebuked in the other.
- steelydan

An honest team Captain leads by example, an argument can be made that Timonen is the Flyers best player, he brings it every night, and has earned the right to speak his peace. When he calls someone out, that player should realize he isn't doing HIS job.

Just kidding. I love the guy, just wish he would come through a little more often.

I mean, why didn't they just sign him for a 4-5 year deal.
That would be tradable if it didn't work.

I'm pretty sure he will settle down and improve (by next year?), but the length of the deal is pretty laughable.

That was one of the reasons you often hear about the Carter/Richards trades, they wanted to make a move before their no trade clause kicked in.

Why didn't they apply this logic to the goalie deal???
- Marc D

After the Flyers atrocious goalie carousel last year, the Free-Agent goalies and their agents has the Flyers bent over a table during the off-season. The Flyers would have gotten crucified if they didn't upgrade, even with a promising Bob waiting in the wings (Kimmo/Pronger/Briere all getting old). Because of that, Bryz and his agent likely dictated all of the terms to the deal.

Bryz should have shut his pie hole. Cracking under that little bit of adversity at the start of a season gives me all the confidence in the world come playoffs. Not.
- rockychocbill

Where does a player who just signed with a team and hasn't performed even close to average NHL goaltender standards get the nerve to call anyone out? No one wants to hear it.

Any who, I ask if anyone would trade Voracek for Dustin Brown because with Voracek looking for a raise, Dustin Brown's contract might make sense. He's a scoring winger at a decent age. I think he makes a lot of sense right now. Plus he's a hitting machine.

FIRE STEVENS?

Hey! Would any of you trade Jake Voracek for Dustin Brown?
- Schenn2shine

NO STOP ASKING

FIRE STEVENS?
- hammarby31

SIRE FTEVENS