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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 6 @ 12:12 PM ET
Yep, because that is exactly what he meant when he said Carle was having a good season. Bang on!


- MBFlyerfan


Was just pointing out the fact the +/- isn't a indicator of a players performance. Pointing out Giroux is a -13 in 2012 means what exactly? What's the point? He's the last guy on the roster that deserves criticism.
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:13 PM ET
They probably will be chanting that in the playoffs also. Their a better team then the Flyers.
- stveshdy


now they are alot of hockey left last year at this time we were a better team then boston
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
The Eagles system is complexed and usually takes time for rookies to step in and play right away.
- stveshdy


4-8 and 5 blown leads in the 4th quarter.... u win one of those the giants dont win the superbowl... its unacceptable from this coach
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
now they are alot of hockey left last year at this time we were a better team then boston
- Slammed81


We shall see. The Flyers were heading in the opposite direction last year heading into the playoffs.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
Embarrassing and shameful.
- rockychocbill

Why?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
It's Sestito's hand, against black hair, black glove, and black pants. It could be just a follow through from a punch to the chops that has Prust's face in agony. I haven't read anything about hair pulling.
- hockeylover


Oh ok. Picture was a bit deceiving. Hair pulling is probably a fine, I doubt a suspension. I think Sestito is automatically suspended for the next game based on three fighting majors yesterday.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 6 @ 12:15 PM ET

- jimbro83



OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 6 @ 12:15 PM ET
Was just pointing out the fact the +/- isn't a indicator of a players performance. Pointing out Giroux is a -13 in 2012 means what exactly? What's the point? He's the last guy on the roster that deserves criticism.
- PLindbergh31


lilja is a +2 this year, also.
lindros8888
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hatboro, PA
Joined: 03.03.2009

Feb 6 @ 12:15 PM ET
Was just pointing out the fact the +/- isn't a indicator of a players performance. Pointing out Giroux is a -13 in 2012 means what exactly? What's the point? He's the last guy on the roster that deserves criticism.
- PLindbergh31



You could say that the criticism could start with Giroux. His recent play is exactly what has been ailing this team... not just offensively but defensively. Obviously the blam on him is minor, he still has been missing assignments, forcing plays, and missing open nets.
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:16 PM ET
Oh ok. Picture was a bit deceiving. Hair pulling is probably a fine, I doubt a suspension. I think Sestito is automatically suspended for the next game based on three fighting majors yesterday.
- PLindbergh31


i believe u are correct
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:16 PM ET
4-8 and 5 blown leads in the 4th quarter.... u win one of those the giants dont win the superbowl... its unacceptable from this coach
- Slammed81


Not the coaches fault that Avant fumbled twice and cost them the game. Not his fault that Parker jumped offsides when the other team was going to punt. Players have to be accountable and coach Reid takes all the heat for them. Whats unacceptable is not seeing how talented this team is going to be next year. They have a great owner and outstanding coaches. Reid just needs alittle more time to achieve the the big goal.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
You could say that the criticism could start with Giroux. His recent play is exactly what has been ailing this team... not just offensively but defensively. Obviously the blam on him is minor, he still has been missing assignments, forcing plays, and missing open nets.
- lindros8888


He hasn't played his best lately, but he was so good the first 35-40 games and put the team on his back. Without that, this team isn't even currently in a playoff spot.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
It's Sestito's hand, against black hair, black glove, and black pants. It could be just a follow through from a punch to the chops that has Prust's face in agony. I haven't read anything about hair pulling.
- hockeylover


Doubtful. Players don't usually make that kind of face after being punched.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
Why?
- hereticpride


nothing wrong with hair pulling in a fight

if you are a girl.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
Doubtful. Players don't usually make that kind of face after being punched.
- rockychocbill


Maybe he was just checking to see if it was a hair piece or not...
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
did anyone hear this... that the rangers are going after Suter my buddy just texted me this im trying to see where he saw this crap
lindros8888
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hatboro, PA
Joined: 03.03.2009

Feb 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
He hasn't played his best lately, but he was so good the first 35-40 games and put the team on his back. Without that, this team isn't even currently in a playoff spot.
- PLindbergh31



But that shouldn't excuse him from criticism. If anything, he should be held to a higher standard because of his progression to one of the best players in the league.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
Why?
- hereticpride


If he's pulling Prust's hair, which it certainly looks like he is, you don't find that to fall outside the code?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
lilja is a +2 this year, also.
- OrangeBlack27


Case in point why the statistic is generally useless, and a ton of factors beyond what an individual player can control go into a players +/- rating.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
it's better than almost killing a Flyer fan, can't say the same thing about what happens in Philly
- jimbro83



actually, i have been to lots of games at both facilities and the fans in phil. are in general waaaaay better behaved.
trust me when i tell you i have never screamed "rangers suck" into anyone's ear.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
did anyone hear this... that the rangers are going after Suter my buddy just texted me this im trying to see where he saw this crap
- Slammed81


They need another defenseman, Girardi will be dead by the playoffs playing 28 minutes a night.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
actually, i have been to lots of games at both facilities and the fans in phil. are in general waaaaay better behaved.
trust me when i tell you i have never screamed "rangers suck" into anyone's ear.

- Don'tForgetTocchet


has a Flyers fan almost died from being attacked by going to a game at MSG to the best of your knowledge?
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
Maybe he was just checking to see if it was a hair piece or not...
- hockeylover


Honestly, if he did that, there is no defending it. By anyone. For any reason.
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
Not the coaches fault that Avant fumbled twice and cost them the game. Not his fault that Parker jumped offsides when the other team was going to punt. Players have to be accountable and coach Reid takes all the heat for them. Whats unacceptable is not seeing how talented this team is going to be next year. They have a great owner and outstanding coaches. Reid just needs alittle more time to achieve the the big goal.
- stveshdy


Reid has been here how long??? i think he has had plenty of time
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
Oh ok. Picture was a bit deceiving. Hair pulling is probably a fine, I doubt a suspension. I think Sestito is automatically suspended for the next game based on three fighting majors yesterday.
- PLindbergh31


They review his case, but the suspension is not automatic
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