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Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:03 AM ET
But we knew what Leighton was a minor leaguer on a fairy tale run

That Gaborik goal

man I'm still pissed, 5 seconds left in the 2nd

and he hung his head afterwards

- puckhead17


cmon u could have stopped that one... neil little would have made that save
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 6 @ 12:04 AM ET
People need to look at the big picture. Bill said it in one of his musings that Bryz's stats are sub-par but he has not been subpar in everygame. In fact when he wins the Flyers are exactly what they need him to be and when he loses he's more like what we saw today. You put a team playing tight like the Rangers do in front of him and his numbers get better thus making him better.
- JoeRussomanno


He needs to get more consistent. There's no two ways about it. And it's fundamentals that are killing him when he's bad. Look at the Gaborik goal. On that he should be pinned against the post. He's got his stick out at an angle to prevent a cross crease pass, and that's why Gaborik scored. He got caught trying to do too much.

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:04 AM ET
The Del Zotto goal was worse. The Gaborik goal was not good, but it was flukey. Bryzgalov seemed to be thinking about a cross crease play, rather than just getting the paddle down and hugging the post.

The Del Zotto one was the killer.

- Jsaquella



The Del Zotto was no better, but I, 5 seconds left, hug the pipe please poke check him something close it off.
It's not like Gabby wrapped it across the wide side & he had to stretch out
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:04 AM ET
I said this year in my post. Just a bad goal.
- stveshdy



your're right how about rupps in the classic the second one.... close or no
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:05 AM ET
He needs to get more consistent. There's no two ways about it. And it's fundamentals that are killing him when he's bad. Look at the Gaborik goal. On that he should be pinned against the post. He's got his stick out at an angle to prevent a cross crease pass, and that's why Gaborik scored. He got caught trying to do too much.
- Jsaquella

Completely concur but I will add this- I'd rather him get caught trying to do too much than not enough. I know his heart is in the right place, can't grill him too bad for that.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:05 AM ET
he doesnt have to be like lundqvist but the big save... he cant make it right now and hasnt all year and the softies have to stop especially in big games... he needs to make the saves he suppose to save with the occasion stone job and i'd be thrilled but he hasnt and thats the disappointing part
- Slammed81


I really dont know how to fix Bryz. He was a very good goalie in Phoenix and made big saves for them. I dont see why playing in Philly would ruin his game. The pressure is different no doubt about it but he didnt wake up this year and forget how to play goalie. Bryz hasnt settled in all year starting back in camp.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:05 AM ET
He needs to get more consistent. There's no two ways about it. And it's fundamentals that are killing him when he's bad. Look at the Gaborik goal. On that he should be pinned against the post. He's got his stick out at an angle to prevent a cross crease pass, and that's why Gaborik scored. He got caught trying to do too much.
- Jsaquella

Thats prob his biggest prob, He is unfimilar and feels like he has to do to much, whereas in PHX he knew what everyone eles was doing and knew what he had to do.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:06 AM ET
People need to look at the big picture. Bill said it in one of his musings that Bryz's stats are sub-par but he has not been subpar in everygame. In fact when he wins the Flyers are exactly what they need him to be and when he loses he's more like what we saw today. You put a team playing tight like the Rangers do in front of him and his numbers get better thus making him better.
- JoeRussomanno



No I was happy, elated in the 5 games he played well, & wanted to ride the wave & was, he's pissing me off now.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 6 @ 12:07 AM ET
He needs to get more consistent. There's no two ways about it. And it's fundamentals that are killing him when he's bad. Look at the Gaborik goal. On that he should be pinned against the post. He's got his stick out at an angle to prevent a cross crease pass, and that's why Gaborik scored. He got caught trying to do too much.
- Jsaquella


I honestly think a large part of this has to do with the pressure. A majority of it has to be mental.

He is not handling being "the man" in a big hockey market at all.
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:07 AM ET
I really dont know how to fix Bryz. He was a very good goalie in Phoenix and made big saves for them. I dont see why playing in Philly would ruin his game. The pressure is different no doubt about it but he didnt wake up this year and forget how to play goalie. Bryz hasnt settled in all year starting back in camp.
- stveshdy


its a shame he seems like hes a time bomb ready to blow ... when the gaborik goal went in i knew he was toast you can just see they way he handled himself in third looked like wtf is goin on
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:07 AM ET
The bottom line is that the Flyers are far, far too aggressive on the offensive side of the puck. That has to be fixed.
- MJL

true and guys like Giroux need to be a bit more responsible on the D side as well. Alot of times Giroux has left a guy wide open in front of the net to get the easy goal
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:08 AM ET
I really dont know how to fix Bryz. He was a very good goalie in Phoenix and made big saves for them. I dont see why playing in Philly would ruin his game. The pressure is different no doubt about it but he didnt wake up this year and forget how to play goalie. Bryz hasnt settled in all year starting back in camp.
- stveshdy

I think you start by tightening up the mess in front of him. In Phx I don't think he was having to shut the door on this many golden opportunities.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:08 AM ET
I honestly think a large part of this has to do with the pressure. A majority of it has to be mental.

He is not handling being "the man" in a big hockey market at all.

- mochoson




BINGO
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 6 @ 12:08 AM ET
The Del Zotto was no better, but I, 5 seconds left, hug the pipe please poke check him something close it off.
It's not like Gabby wrapped it across the wide side & he had to stretch out

- puckhead17


True, but most times, on that play the puck hits his stick and dies in front of him.

Bryzgalov wasn't trying to poke check, either-he was anticipating cutting off a cross crease play, which has burned the Flyers on several occasions this year-either by kicking in off a skate or being an easy slam dunk by an uncovered winger.

That's why the Gaborik goal is more flukey, IMO, than "soft". The time and situation make it a bad goal, no arguing that whatsoever.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:09 AM ET
I honestly think a large part of this has to do with the pressure. A majority of it has to be mental.

He is not handling being "the man" in a big hockey market at all.

- mochoson


He looked like a goalie who was beaten after the Gaborik goal. I just didnt like his body language after that goal. I want him to play well and the Flyers need him to play well if they want to have a chance to compete.
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:10 AM ET
True, but most times, on that play the puck hits his stick and dies in front of him.

Bryzgalov wasn't trying to poke check, either-he was anticipating cutting off a cross crease play, which has burned the Flyers on several occasions this year-either by kicking in off a skate or being an easy slam dunk by an uncovered winger.

That's why the Gaborik goal is more flukey, IMO, than "soft". The time and situation make it a bad goal, no arguing that whatsoever.

- Jsaquella


can we agree that both sucked
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:10 AM ET
He looked like a goalie who was beaten after the Gaborik goal. I just didnt like his body language after that goal. I want him to play well and the Flyers need him to play well if they want to have a chance to compete.
- stveshdy


Bingo
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:11 AM ET
True, but most times, on that play the puck hits his stick and dies in front of him.

Bryzgalov wasn't trying to poke check, either-he was anticipating cutting off a cross crease play, which has burned the Flyers on several occasions this year-either by kicking in off a skate or being an easy slam dunk by an uncovered winger.

That's why the Gaborik goal is more flukey, IMO, than "soft". The time and situation make it a bad goal, no arguing that whatsoever.

- Jsaquella

yea I saw the replay and he def was trying to stop something cross pass. It really make you think that some of the D let downs are effecting him. Shows that teams like the Preds and the Yotes play very solid in front of the goalie and allow them to focus on the job they need to do. If you dont think thats the case look at how Halak has played under Hitch
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:11 AM ET
True, but most times, on that play the puck hits his stick and dies in front of him.

Bryzgalov wasn't trying to poke check, either-he was anticipating cutting off a cross crease play, which has burned the Flyers on several occasions this year-either by kicking in off a skate or being an easy slam dunk by an uncovered winger.

That's why the Gaborik goal is more flukey, IMO, than "soft". The time and situation make it a bad goal, no arguing that whatsoever.

- Jsaquella



Morganti said soft soft soft, and I do agree, he didn't poke at the puck, nothing, he just tilted his stick & created a ramp under his arm pit.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 6 @ 12:11 AM ET
I honestly think a large part of this has to do with the pressure. A majority of it has to be mental.

He is not handling being "the man" in a big hockey market at all.

- mochoson


I think that it's 99% mental. It's a new team, new system in front of him, new conference, new demands on him from the media, new everything. To top it off, he's had wretched luck thus far-deflections, goofy bounces...that stuff can snowball and hurt a guy's confidence and approach.

The resiliency he's shown in the past gives me a good deal of hope, though. His first full season in Phoenix he was dreadful, and rebounded the next year to be a Vezina finalist.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:12 AM ET
Bingo
- Slammed81


Im really tired of having to defend him. His defense hasnt been consistent but that doesnt seem to change anytime soon. So he is going to have to be better than he was today. He has played much better over his last 4-5 starts which is a good sign.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 6 @ 12:13 AM ET
Honestly, I go with Bryz against the Islanders though.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:13 AM ET
He looked like a goalie who was beaten after the Gaborik goal. I just didnt like his body language after that goal. I want him to play well and the Flyers need him to play well if they want to have a chance to compete.
- stveshdy



Yup, I had no confidence in him after the Gaborik gaff, & knew we were toast
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:13 AM ET
Im not huge jimmy fallon fan but im ROFL right now
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:14 AM ET
Im really tired of having to defend him. His defense hasnt been consistent but that doesnt seem to change anytime soon. So he is going to have to be better than he was today. He has played much better over his last 4-5 starts which is a good sign.
- stveshdy


hahaha exactly how have feeling i got 10 texts today cause i keep sticking up for him but as Morganti said where on a verge of a goalie crisis ........again
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