IronMaidnick
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Location: Doesn't matter if my facts are, ON Joined: 12.23.2011
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Here's the pipe!
Your trade salaries don't match up - at least mine did - msousa1
Not sure why you feel salaries need to match up.
His deal was way more likely than throwing in a 2nd and kulemin for a 1st overall pick....
Besides, they could flip salary to another team to stay under cap. |
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Superfan87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Inverary, ON Joined: 03.01.2010
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How about this for a trade between Columbus and Toronto;
To Toronto:
Jeff Carter
1st round pick this year
To Columbus:
Tyler Bozak
Carl Gunnarsson
Nik Kulemin
1st round pick this year
2nd round pick this year
Here is why this could be possible:
For Toronto - Bozak would be expendible with Carter coming in. Gunnarsson is a good, solid D but we have too many and someone has to go (no one is going to take Komisarek plus his cap hit is too high / Franson's salary is too low since both teams are close to the cap). Kulemin is a good strong forward who is having a bad year but again would be expendible. More importantly, these players make the total salaries going either way almost even (about 200k more going to Toronto).
As for Columbus - Carter is easy to explain. But why the 1st pick (1st overall as well)? The top two players in this year's draft are Russians - small market teams don't do well with Russian players (see Radulov & Filatov). So to help Columbus "save face" Toronto would take the 1st overall and draft Yakupov (who would then take Kulemin's spot next season). Columbus gets a decent centre, a top 6 forward and a top 3 D, plus a 1st this year and a 2nd to offset everything. Also, Toronto is taking the massive long contract off Columbus' hands, so they have to give them something decent.
Works for everyone right?
- msousa1
Whatever your smoking please share with the rest of us! |
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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I don't want a season ticket. - Marwood
yeah, i had one. not all it's cracked up to be |
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IronMaidnick
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Doesn't matter if my facts are, ON Joined: 12.23.2011
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not enough hope in Canuck land to make that dream come true - bobbyisno1
.....But they have Hodgson.. |
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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 07.09.2006
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I can see a move something like this going down.
Toronto
Komisarek
Crabb
3rd
Columbus
Carter
Salaries match up great. And Columbus gets a 3rd rounder to help the rebuild. Too easy. |
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mighty13duck
New York Islanders |
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Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY Joined: 01.26.2009
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.....But they have Hodgson.. - IronMaidnick
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msousa1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 01.13.2006
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Not sure why you feel salaries need to match up.
His deal was way more likely than throwing in a 2nd and kulemin for a 1st overall pick....
Besides, they could flip salary to another team to stay under cap. - IronMaidnick
I guarantee though that if Columbus drafts Yakupov, he goes back to Russia or demands a trade within 2 years. |
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IronMaidnick
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Doesn't matter if my facts are, ON Joined: 12.23.2011
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yeah, i had one. not all it's cracked up to be - bobbyisno1
well you're getting a new one once my dream comes true(e4) |
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I can see a move something like this going down.
Toronto
Komisarek
Crabb
3rd
Columbus
Carter
Salaries match up great. And Columbus gets a 3rd rounder to help the rebuild. Too easy. - weirdoh
lol |
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Location: à la toilette des filles... Joined: 02.02.2012
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CBJ will be good next year, Next year 1st Line will be Nash - Brassard - Johansson, everytime Nash and Brassard are on the ice together, they are producing. 2nd Line will be Hamberger - Carter - Yakupov. If you watched WJC20, Yakupov had 0g - 9a, Carter will have lot's of shot missed, lot's of shot saved, lot's of open net missed and lot's of goals. |
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IronMaidnick
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Doesn't matter if my facts are, ON Joined: 12.23.2011
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I guarantee though that if Columbus drafts Yakupov, he goes back to Russia or demands a trade within 2 years. - msousa1
I would hope not.
I mean go back to Russia. I can't say I'd want to be a BlueJacket, no offense to Jacket fans...
Small market teams have a hard time keeping players interested in the team. IE Turris. |
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Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.11.2006
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How about this for a trade between Columbus and Toronto;
To Toronto:
Jeff Carter
1st round pick this year
To Columbus:
Tyler Bozak
Carl Gunnarsson
Nik Kulemin
1st round pick this year
2nd round pick this year
Here is why this could be possible:
For Toronto - Bozak would be expendible with Carter coming in. Gunnarsson is a good, solid D but we have too many and someone has to go (no one is going to take Komisarek plus his cap hit is too high / Franson's salary is too low since both teams are close to the cap). Kulemin is a good strong forward who is having a bad year but again would be expendible. More importantly, these players make the total salaries going either way almost even (about 200k more going to Toronto).
As for Columbus - Carter is easy to explain. But why the 1st pick (1st overall as well)? The top two players in this year's draft are Russians - small market teams don't do well with Russian players (see Radulov & Filatov). So to help Columbus "save face" Toronto would take the 1st overall and draft Yakupov (who would then take Kulemin's spot next season). Columbus gets a decent centre, a top 6 forward and a top 3 D, plus a 1st this year and a 2nd to offset everything. Also, Toronto is taking the massive long contract off Columbus' hands, so they have to give them something decent.
Works for everyone right?
- msousa1
Forget about the rest of it, I wouldn't trade Kulemin and Gunnarsson straight up for Carter.
EDIT: But now that I think about it, Columbus's first round pick makes it totally worth it. That's also why this deal would never happen, they won't trade that pick. |
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roenick
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: WI Joined: 10.06.2010
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Nobody going to take Carters long contract my sources told me. Nash asking price is to high according to my other sources. |
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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 07.09.2006
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lol - Cape Breton Bruins
You should rally stop looking in the mirror at your genitals
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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CBJ will be good next year, Next year 1st Line will be Nash - Brassard - Johansson, everytime Nash and Brassard are on the ice together, they are producing. 2nd Line will be Hamberger - Carter - Yakupov. If you watched WJC20, Yakupov had 0g - 9a, Carter will have lot's of shot missed, lot's of shot saved, lot's of open net missed and lot's of goals. - -xXx-
meh, what do you know. season ticket holder |
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clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON Joined: 01.11.2012
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I think the NHL should do away with the salary cap!!! - LeftCoaster
That's a leafs fan's wet dream. |
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JDJ
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: "…it's no 'Free Agent Frenzy Joined: 07.25.2007
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.....But they have Hodgson.. - IronMaidnick
Hodgson>Leafs |
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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You should rally stop looking in the mirror at your genitals
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - weirdoh
rally? is that the best you got? |
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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That's a leafs fan's wet dream. - clarkysduster
i had a wet dream, wasn't anything like that |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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You should rally stop looking in the mirror at your genitals
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - weirdoh
Genitals are cool... |
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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 07.09.2006
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rally? is that the best you got? - bobbyisno1
Um it's called Swedish. |
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jimib
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Phaneuf would be 6th or 7th o Joined: 07.23.2010
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The cap is necessary, BUT, I think there may be an opportunity to perhaps let each club have one Marquee player, that does not count in the teams cap! - Bullot
That wouldn't work because big market teams could spend to the cap ceiling and guys like crosby etc would go to those teams because NYR TOR MTL would pay them like 25-30 mill per season cuz they dont spend that much on tier two players |
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Genitals are cool... - Flyfreaky
What's going on with the Flyers today?
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