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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:22 PM ET
The headline if there was one was "Jeff Carter Does Not have a No Trade Cause", which I guess was the worry among GM's. What they did say is, the Clause was notified due to him being traded this past summer but the other will be kick in by the time he reaches his 27th Birthday (Which I can't confirm or Deny). Then after a certain amount of seasons, he has a limited No Trade but I don't know what year it is.

Luke Schenn just scored his second of the season.

- Schenn2shine


No player is eligible for a NTC/NMC until he has reached Free Agent eligibility. Which is 27 years of age, or 7 Accrued Seasons. So Carter would be eligible for Free Agency until after this Season. So that's when his clause kicks in. Now I don't know if Columbus agreed to honor the clause or not. I don't see why they would, if they don't have too!
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 4 @ 9:22 PM ET
Luke is trying to show off his skills for the Flyers
- bigmookalookie

I'm happy with getting Luck Schenn for JvR if another player somehow comes back. If we can manage to pull Kadri from the Leafs with Schenn, this deal would already be done from my point of view.

Has anyone took notice that Timonen's contract is done the moment Weber becomes a UFA (should Weber make it that far).
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 4 @ 9:22 PM ET
I just read something that I think says that I'm wrong. This is from capgeek.

If a player waives a clause to accept a trade to a new team, it is rare he will do so without a promise that the acquiring team will continue to honour the clause. Brad Richards, when traded from Tampa Bay to Dallas in 2007-08, is an example of this. However, if the player is traded before a clause has kicked in, that clause is automatically ruled void.

- MJL


I wouldn't worry about Carter not waiving it.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:23 PM ET
this is for ob18 i mean bill murray

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:24 PM ET
I wouldn't worry about Carter not waiving it.
- Jsaquella


I heard some speculation that Detroit might be interested in Carter. He would thrive there.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 4 @ 9:24 PM ET
No player is eligible for a NTC/NMC until he has reached Free Agent eligibility. Which is 27 years of age, or 7 Accrued Seasons. So Carter would be eligible for Free Agency until after this Season. So that's when his clause kicks in. Now I don't know if Columbus agreed to honor the clause or not. I don't see why they would, if they don't have too!
- MJL

Gotcha. Now things are starting to make sense here. That's a pretty smart rule in the CBA.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 4 @ 9:24 PM ET
JJ is a decent d-man, but not what we need. If we are trading JVR, we are gonna need a sniping winger. Our strongest feature is our young depth. I feel there are way too many rooks in the line up. We need a stay at home dman who kills penalties and intimidates and destroys people in our crease. Gill would be a perfect fit. Package JVR and maybe MAB for a Nash or a Ryan. Now we have a team.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 4 @ 9:26 PM ET

- 2Real





MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:26 PM ET

Somebody help me out.

JVR is out, at least in part, with a concussion, correct (so hard to know these days)?

The trade deadline, is, what the 27th?

How is he part of any trade rumors?
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 4 @ 9:27 PM ET
I heard some speculation that Detroit might be interested in Carter. He would thrive there.
- MJL


never liked carter, hes a imposter
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:27 PM ET
Gotcha. Now things are starting to make sense here. That's a pretty smart rule in the CBA.
- Schenn2shine


Something new that I just learned about. I did not think that was the case, that a players NTC/NMC is voided if he's traded before it kicks in.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:28 PM ET
never liked carter, hes a imposter
- mydoglicks


Meaning he's not the real Jeff Carter? Where is the real Carter at then?
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 4 @ 9:28 PM ET
Something new that I just learned about. I did not think that was the case, that a players NTC/NMC is voided if he's traded before it kicks in.
- MJL

Well then sir, we just learned something new together.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:28 PM ET
Somebody help me out.

JVR is out, at least in part, with a concussion, correct (so hard to know these days)?

The trade deadline, is, what the 27th?

How is he part of any trade rumors?

- MrBuzzcut



Because he can get better.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 4 @ 9:28 PM ET
Meaning he's not the real Jeff Carter? Where is the real Carter at then?
- MJL



i bet jasq knows
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 4 @ 9:29 PM ET
I don't see how Johnson is an especially good fit for the Flyers, though
- Jsaquella

having a puck mover locked up for 5+ yrs at 4.35 MM w/ carle unsigned is not such a bad thing. he's a better offensive plyr, though all-around not as good yet. given the landscape of the flyers d, I think it would be a good move and it would allow them to just bring in a steady Eddie type to compliment.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:30 PM ET
Meaning he's not the real Jeff Carter? Where is the real Carter at then?
- MJL

buried somewhere in the AHL
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:30 PM ET
Somebody help me out.

JVR is out, at least in part, with a concussion, correct (so hard to know these days)?

The trade deadline, is, what the 27th?

How is he part of any trade rumors?

- MrBuzzcut

he's faking the injury till the last second
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 4 @ 9:30 PM ET
I'm watching the Leafs/Sens game. I can't help but really like both Luke Schenn and Matt Carkner. Could you even imagine Shea Weber playing the right side of the first pair, Schenn on the right of the second and then Carkner on the third? All right handed shots
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:32 PM ET
having a puck mover locked up for 5+ yrs at 4.35 MM w/ carle unsigned is not such a bad thing. he's a better offensive plyr, though all-around not as good yet. given the landscape of the flyers d, I think it would be a good move and it would allow them to just bring in a steady Eddie type to compliment.
- isaiah520


How is Jack Johnson a better offensive player then Carle?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:33 PM ET



- mydoglicks

great stuff right
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:33 PM ET
How is Jack Johnson a better offensive player then Carle?
- MJL

his shot can break tissue paper
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 4 @ 9:33 PM ET



- mydoglicks

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 4 @ 9:41 PM ET
great stuff right
- 2Real


the way he gets up going backwards is priceless
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 4 @ 9:42 PM ET
he's faking the injury till the last second
- 2Real


hw will play feb 28th
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