An example of what I'm talking about. If a finesse soft as tissue paper player like Gaborik would fight back against an enforcer like Carcillo, you can damn well guarantee Volchenkov would answer if challenged.


- PLindbergh31

Then why hasn't he? How do you explain that he has fought twice in his NHL career. Search the memory banks and a game against the Flyers when Volchenkov was with Ottawa. And he ran Gagne. And Gagne challenged him? What happened? Did Volchenkov answer? What did Gagne get? Instigator, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, and Game. Volchenkov did not receive a fighting Major, why? How many facts have to be given?

But post a Youtube video of two completely different players. That'll clear it up.

Does he have the NHL's interest in mind, which is to have good called games, or does he have the interest of the officials? From a fan's perspective, some of these guys are absolutely brutal. If I sucked that badly at my job, I'd be fired. Add to that there's 2 on the ice...
- eayost

He works for the NHL, not the Officials.

im hoping jagr replaces chad johnson on season two of the TOchoshow
- Crimsoninja

Wouldn't they have to change the name?

Wouldn't they have to change the name?
- MJL

i considered that point but decided that the brand is too well established

Then why hasn't he? How do you explain that he has fought twice in his NHL career. Search the memory banks and a game against the Flyers when Volchenkov was with Ottawa. And he ran Gagne. And Gagne challenged him? What happened? Did Volchenkov answer? What did Gagne get? Instigator, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, and Game. Volchenkov did not receive a fighting Major, why? How many facts have to be given?

But post a Youtube video of two completely different players. That'll clear it up.
- MJL

Wrong again. As always. Referees jump in before fight can start. My work is done here. Getting old owning folks.

i considered that point but decided that the brand is too well established
- Crimsoninja

TOJagr just doesn't flow off the tongue well.

Wrong again. As always. Referees jump in before fight can start. My work is done here. Getting old owning folks.


- PLindbergh31

Seriously? Your own video proves I'm right. Carcillo challenges him, and he skates away. Gagne jumps him and Volchenkov turns his back to Gagne and shows no intent whatsoever to fight back.

Now there are visual facts to back up my opinion. Well done.

I referee college hockey on Long Island, teams like NYU, SBU, Albany, Monmouth so I'm by no means a pro official. I do it because I enjoy it and it's a good workout. And a good game by an official is one where he is not heard from. I know that isn't always easy, but I'm just appalled at what happened today. Some of those calls both ways were atrocious. Youre taught as a ref to be absolutely certain while calling a penalty that puts a team down 2 men. The guidelines are generally considered a goal scoring chance taken directly away or the penalty leads to a chance. Additionally, on hits from behind, you have to judge if the player has put himself in a vulnerable position. Its a bit gray unfortunately. Personally I would have probably called the coburn one over timonen just for his sheer stupidity, but knowing it was Clarkson(diver), I would have thought about calling that one as well. The Giroux one is a no brainer.

Wrong again. As always. Referees jump in before fight can start. My work is done here. Getting old owning folks.



- PLindbergh31

It's just pathetic how guys gotta fight after clean hits ...Volchenkov simply doesn't see any reason to fight just because he plays tough hockey...he would fight if need be

It's just pathetic how guys gotta fight after clean hits ...Volchenkov simply doesn't see any reason to fight just because he plays tough hockey...he would fight if need be
- keatondixon

it's clear as day that Volchenkov backs down from that tough guy Gagne, who's skull is made of paper mache.

When the video shows Gagne and Volchenkov, the referees are already on the scene and breaking up the altercation.

Seriously? Your own video proves I'm right. Carcillo challenges him, and he skates away. Gagne jumps him and Volchenkov turns his back to Gagne and shows no intent whatsoever to fight back.

Now there are visual facts to back up my opinion. Well done.
- MJL

You forgot to add this video! Damn what am i gonna do with you MJL!

it's clear as day that Volchenkov backs down from that tough guy Gagne, who's skull is made of paper mache.
- PLindbergh31

It's clear as day on the video you posted that Volchenkov shows absolutely no intent whatsoever to fight.

Turns his back and drops to the ice when Gagne jumps him. And he skated away from Carcillo and another Flyer who challenged him.

It's clear as day on the video you posted that Volchenkov shows absolutely no intent whatsoever to fight.
- MJL

Why should a guy fight after a clean hit?

I for one am sort of glad this game happened the way it did. The Flyers are a team that needs to get smacked around a little bit. I expect them to come out pissed tomorrow. I would rather have them get spanked by NJ(who I know we can beat and own in the playoffs as of late) and whoop the Rangers(a team we mentally can beat).

Well at least they built some momentum up for tomorrow and showed no quit. Horrible first 2 periods nonetheless.

I for one am sort of glad this game happened the way it did. The Flyers are a team that needs to get smacked around a little bit. I expect them to come out pissed tomorrow. I would have them get spanked by NJ(who I know we can beat and own in the playoffs as of late) and whoop the Rangers(a team we mentally can beat).
- Deasr1

Exactly. Let's just hope they can turn this negative into a positive tomorrow.

I for one am sort of glad this game happened the way it did. The Flyers are a team that needs to get smacked around a little bit. I expect them to come out pissed tomorrow. I would have them get spanked by NJ(who I know we can beat and own in the playoffs as of late) and whoop the Rangers(a team we mentally can beat).
- Deasr1

Definitely a game that can provide some motivation for sure. And maybe they can come out ready to play tomorrow. One good thing is other then Giroux giving up on the play on the Parise goal, Giroux played a very good game overall. So maybe he get's it cranked up again.

Well at least they built some momentum up for tomorrow and showed no quit. Horrible first 2 periods nonetheless.
- LordStanley88

Yes, take the positives and carry it into tomorrow. They were a very frustrated team before the 3rd. Even with the loss, much better to end that way then to just lie down.

Yes, take the positives and carry it into tomorrow. They were a very frustrated team before the 3rd. Even with the loss, much better to end that way then to just lie down.
- MJL

Absolutely. Forget the first two periods. Take the good. Glad I missed the first two periods, myself.

Wrong again. As always. Referees jump in before fight can start. My work is done here. Getting old owning folks.


- PLindbergh31

That was after a goal. If you saw on the left side of the screen, Briere made a bee-line to Volchenkov to pounce on him after the goal?

I don't mean to be a douche, but I know the Flyers are labeled for being dirty, but I thought they had at least some class. Hartnell's episode at the end of the first combined with Rinaldo's slewfoot was outright embarrassing to watch. Combined with Simmonds punching Volchenkov twice during that episode?

That was after a goal. If you saw on the left side of the screen, Briere made a bee-line to Volchenkov to pounce on him after the goal?

I don't mean to be a douche, but I know the Flyers are labeled for being dirty, but I thought they had at least some class. Hartnell's episode at the end of the first combined with Rinaldo's slewfoot was outright embarrassing to watch. Combined with Simmonds punching Volchenkov twice during that episode?
- _Zippy_

_zip_ it

_zip_ it
- Crimsoninja

Clever.

SCORE!

Just got a PS3 with 12 games for $210 on Ebay.

- MBFlyerfan

Let's start a ps3 league! For nhl12

Was an interesting game. Devils dominated first 2 periods. But that 3rd period was probably the worst period for the Devils all season. Right after there best 2 periods. Physical game for sure.

Was an interesting game. Devils dominated first 2 periods. But that 3rd period was probably the worst period for the Devils all season. Right after there best 2 periods. Physical game for sure.
- zach parise9

Interesting that the two trades Lamoriello made Foster, and Ponikarovsky are paying dividends. Foster has a rocket for a shot, and Ponikarovsky is a useful player. I think he has four 20 goal seasons. Both of these guys were acquired for a bag of dogpoop.

Foster with two goals today, and Ponikarovsky with the game winner. Amusing.