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Domov14
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 3 @ 11:17 AM ET
That's not even realistic. Girous is already a superstar in the league and is only 24 yrs old. Let me ask you this...would you rather part with, 20 or 6?
- Flyer_Nation71


I agree, but I do think Suter for Giroux straight up would be fair, pending Suter signing an extension with Philly. However, we don't need another Center. I would be more in favor of something like Hartnell and a prospect (not because I have Hartnell's jersey...ok that's like 98% of the reason why, but still...)

I would be more willing to part with Suter at this point purely because of Weber's offensive prowess on an offensively challenged team.
predsbrooksy
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 06.17.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:45 AM ET
With the news of Jimmy Howard's injury and given Ty Conklin's performance this season, the time to catch the Red Wings is now. They may be vulnerable for the next two weeks, so picking up every possible point now is a must. And on the Smithson issue, his playoff heroics will always live in this team's lore, but his time may have passed. We don't have room on the roster for someone who doesn't contribute offensively and has a penchant for taking untimely penalties like the one last night.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 3 @ 1:08 PM ET
I agree, but I do think Suter for Giroux straight up would be fair, pending Suter signing an extension with Philly. However, we don't need another Center. I would be more in favor of something like Hartnell and a prospect (not because I have Hartnell's jersey...ok that's like 98% of the reason why, but still...)

I would be more willing to part with Suter at this point purely because of Weber's offensive prowess on an offensively challenged team.

- Domov14


as a Flyers fan I'd sooner see the team wait til the off season and go after Suter than trade assets for him now.
HardCorePredFan316
Nashville Predators
Location: Cuz your not hardcore, unless , TN
Joined: 07.14.2009

Feb 3 @ 1:12 PM ET
as a Flyers fan I'd sooner see the team wait til the off season and go after Suter than trade assets for him now.
- nastyflyergirl


But what fun would that be for us?...
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 3 @ 1:26 PM ET
But what fun would that be for us?...
- HardCorePredFan316


hey come on, you already have one of the best dmen and goalies in the league...share a little
bigpredfan
Nashville Predators
Location: "har har har. where's your cu
Joined: 04.27.2011

Feb 3 @ 1:29 PM ET
With the news of Jimmy Howard's injury and given Ty Conklin's performance this season, the time to catch the Red Wings is now. They may be vulnerable for the next two weeks, so picking up every possible point now is a must. And on the Smithson issue, his playoff heroics will always live in this team's lore, but his time may have passed. We don't have room on the roster for someone who doesn't contribute offensively and has a penchant for taking untimely penalties like the one last night.
- predsbrooksy


I am hating to agree with everyone about smithson, but I have to. We have Fisher, Legwand, Spaling, Erat, and Halischuk just off the top of my head who can kill penalties from a forwards role. Smithson seems to have outgrown his role, much like Donnie Nickey did with the titans. I feel like Yip is a better option with that line than Smithson is right now
preds4ever
Nashville Predators
Location: nashville, TN
Joined: 02.20.2010

Feb 3 @ 1:47 PM ET
Let me ask you this...would you rather part with, 20 or 6?
- Flyer_Nation71


That's tough one, but I'd have to say 6.
- Polecat


Was hoping you said that....we would love Weber over here.
- Flyer_Nation71


This is an interesting development that I am seeing more and more. People are starting to prefer Ryan Suter over Shea Weber... which is very strange to me. Granted, Ryan Suter is better on the defensive side of things but isn't the gripe on most Preds fans minds offense? Preds fans know the numbers so I'm not going to be a stat geek. And besides the offensive points doesn't Shea bring another level of physicality and toughness that Ryan does not? If they are going to make around the same amount of money, (which has been the speculation) and if we were to choose one, wouldn't we choose uber captain?
benderboots
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 11.15.2011

Feb 3 @ 2:46 PM ET
I agree, but I do think Suter for Giroux straight up would be fair, pending Suter signing an extension with Philly. However, we don't need another Center. I would be more in favor of something like Hartnell and a prospect (not because I have Hartnell's jersey...ok that's like 98% of the reason why, but still...)

I would be more willing to part with Suter at this point purely because of Weber's offensive prowess on an offensively challenged team.

- Domov14


don't forget that the Flyers traded Carter and Richards because they were so confident in Giroux. He is pretty as as untouchable as they come.
Whyme78
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 06.26.2009

Feb 3 @ 2:47 PM ET
This is an interesting development that I am seeing more and more. People are starting to prefer Ryan Suter over Shea Weber... which is very strange to me. Granted, Ryan Suter is better on the defensive side of things but isn't the gripe on most Preds fans minds offense? Preds fans know the numbers so I'm not going to be a stat geek. And besides the offensive points doesn't Shea bring another level of physicality and toughness that Ryan does not? If they are going to make around the same amount of money, (which has been the speculation) and if we were to choose one, wouldn't we choose uber captain?
- preds4ever


That's not a recent development. The majority of the posters on here have preferred Suter over Weber for some time now.

EDIT: of course that was before his whole refusal to re-sign
benderboots
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 11.15.2011

Feb 3 @ 3:00 PM ET
I am hating to agree with everyone about smithson, but I have to. We have Fisher, Legwand, Spaling, Erat, and Halischuk just off the top of my head who can kill penalties from a forwards role. Smithson seems to have outgrown his role, much like Donnie Nickey did with the titans. I feel like Yip is a better option with that line than Smithson is right now
- bigpredfan


I agree with you agreeing on everyone else agreeing Smithson was valuable when our penalty kill was top in the league a few years back but now its just average. I mean Smithson does come back and we lose. and even though he looks like he is 18 he is actually one of the older players on the team. I think his days are numbered. he does bring the invaluable "veteran presence" with our young team.

IMO Pekka is probably going to play a majority of the remaining games especially "must win games" (top 8 Western Conference teams and especially Division games) and they are pretty much playing every other night from here on out, so rest Pekka whenever you can. Lindy will be riding the pine for the majority of the season and post season. And I don't think Pekka could have stopped 2 of those goals.

Obviously we want to take advantage of Jimmy Howard going down, but he still have 2 teams that are thinking the same thing and we play one of them Saturday night! I'm feeling a typical 2-1 game verse the Blues. Should be a dandy

Predaceous
Nashville Predators
Location: Hypocrisy is prejudice with a
Joined: 11.11.2005

Feb 3 @ 4:13 PM ET
This is an interesting development that I am seeing more and more. People are starting to prefer Ryan Suter over Shea Weber... which is very strange to me. Granted, Ryan Suter is better on the defensive side of things but isn't the gripe on most Preds fans minds offense? Preds fans know the numbers so I'm not going to be a stat geek. And besides the offensive points doesn't Shea bring another level of physicality and toughness that Ryan does not? If they are going to make around the same amount of money, (which has been the speculation) and if we were to choose one, wouldn't we choose uber captain?
- preds4ever


When Suter went out with a knee injury a couple of years ago and Weber couldn't handle the load, it opened a lot of eyes. When Weber goes down, Suter doesn't seem to have a problem taking charge and playing great on defense. Suter is the better defender. Weber is the more offensive defensman. Yes, the Preds need scoring, but it's not like they're last in that dept. Other teams could use scoring more than the Preds. The Preds just don't get any credit for it because it's team scoring. There's no superstar on the list of forwards. But then, that's just how the Preds are in general, and what makes them so difficult to game plan for.

D
im4preds
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 02.14.2007

Feb 3 @ 5:02 PM ET
When Suter went out with a knee injury a couple of years ago and Weber couldn't handle the load, it opened a lot of eyes. When Weber goes down, Suter doesn't seem to have a problem taking charge and playing great on defense. Suter is the better defender. Weber is the more offensive defensman. Yes, the Preds need scoring, but it's not like they're last in that dept. Other teams could use scoring more than the Preds. The Preds just don't get any credit for it because it's team scoring. There's no superstar on the list of forwards. But then, that's just how the Preds are in general, and what makes them so difficult to game plan for.

D

- Predaceous



As usual, spot on D
PredfanDan
Nashville Predators
Location: Lurking somewhere in section 3
Joined: 07.21.2007

Feb 3 @ 7:12 PM ET
With the news of Jimmy Howard's injury and given Ty Conklin's performance this season, the time to catch the Red Wings is now. They may be vulnerable for the next two weeks, so picking up every possible point now is a must. And on the Smithson issue, his playoff heroics will always live in this team's lore, but his time may have passed. We don't have room on the roster for someone who doesn't contribute offensively and has a penchant for taking untimely penalties like the one last night.
- predsbrooksy

I know Smithson is a favorite of Trotz.....but, I think it's time to consider moving him. In 45 games this season he has a whopping 5 points. I know he is in there to kill penalties and plays on the 4th line but he has to contribute some offensively. He seems to pick up penalties at the most inopportune times. You can't be tied for 3rd on the team in penalty minutes when you are paid to be the designated penalty killer.
preds4ever
Nashville Predators
Location: nashville, TN
Joined: 02.20.2010

Feb 3 @ 8:26 PM ET
When Suter went out with a knee injury a couple of years ago and Weber couldn't handle the load, it opened a lot of eyes. When Weber goes down, Suter doesn't seem to have a problem taking charge and playing great on defense. Suter is the better defender. Weber is the more offensive defensman. Yes, the Preds need scoring, but it's not like they're last in that dept. Other teams could use scoring more than the Preds. The Preds just don't get any credit for it because it's team scoring. There's no superstar on the list of forwards. But then, that's just how the Preds are in general, and what makes them so difficult to game plan for.

D

- Predaceous


That's what I get for going against the popular consensus. I always get such intelligent retort on here. You have to understand I all about some Ryan Suter! I wrote a fan shot a year ago about how he is the most underrated player the Preds have. But one thing I must point out is that in 2008-2009 (the year the Preds didn't make the playoffs) Ryan Suter was a -16 and Shea was +1. And look at our winning percentage with Shea as captain. I'm not arguing... I hope we have both the apple and the orange back in the basket next year.
Section106
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 3 @ 10:12 PM ET
I am also puzzled by the Lindback thing. It seems as if he is being showcased in the East. If the chemistry is so good in the dressing room and there isn't an obvious mix of skaters to trade for a scoring forward then perhaps Lindback is the key to that potential deal?
wings-suck
Nashville Predators
Location: hendersonville, TN
Joined: 01.18.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:32 PM ET
I am also puzzled by the Lindback thing. It seems as if he is being showcased in the East. If the chemistry is so good in the dressing room and there isn't an obvious mix of skaters to trade for a scoring forward then perhaps Lindback is the key to that potential deal?
- Section106



I've said it before, and I'll say it again: If we're showcasing Anders to the East, its back-firing!
Supernick
Nashville Predators
Location: QC
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 4 @ 12:24 AM ET
I don't think Lindback was being showcased in the East. It was two back to back games, Nashville needed to win against Minnesota cuz they're in the same conference so Trotz put Rinne vs Minn and Lindback vs Philly.
RockiesTop
Nashville Predators
Location: Smyrna, TN
Joined: 12.27.2006

Feb 4 @ 2:12 AM ET
When Suter went out with a knee injury a couple of years ago and Weber couldn't handle the load, it opened a lot of eyes. When Weber goes down, Suter doesn't seem to have a problem taking charge and playing great on defense. Suter is the better defender. Weber is the more offensive defensman. Yes, the Preds need scoring, but it's not like they're last in that dept. Other teams could use scoring more than the Preds. The Preds just don't get any credit for it because it's team scoring. There's no superstar on the list of forwards. But then, that's just how the Preds are in general, and what makes them so difficult to game plan for.

D

- Predaceous


Suter doesn't get as much love for his offensive skills, but I think he is better for our offense than Shea. Suter is one of the few players on our team that can carry the puck out of our zone and into the offensive end. He has great vision, makes pinpoint passes, and takes shots that get deflected into the twine. Thankfully, Shea has started to use his snapshot instead of slapshot more. While his cannon is impressive, it tends to go wide and wrap all the way back into our end.
Predsboro
Season Ticket Holder
Nashville Predators
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Joined: 02.11.2007

Feb 4 @ 2:24 AM ET
I see that Arnott got spilled heavily into the boards in the STL vs. LAK game tonight. Just in time for him to miss another chance at playing in Smashville.
Section106
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 4 @ 10:49 AM ET
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: If we're showcasing Anders to the East, its back-firing!
- wings-suck


Yes it is...But the underlying question remains...who is Nashville willing to give up in a trade for this elusive elite scoring forward that doesn't bite them in the butt?
PredsFan8
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 4 @ 11:24 AM ET
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: If we're showcasing Anders to the East, its back-firing!
- wings-suck



I don't know if I really agree with the idea that its back-firing if they are in fact showcasing him. Here is why by playing him, other teams are getting a chance to see his potential. If he is traded its not going to be to a team that is in the race this year. The team that would like Lindback for example Tampa Bay would be unloading a guy now to make a run next year. Its all about potential, and so he doen't have to play unbelievable each time, he just has to show flashes. Also, teams realize that he hasn't played a lot this year, and they know that he is a starting goalie backing up one of the best if not the best goalie in the world.
jlhtn18
Nashville Predators
Location: Littleton, CO
Joined: 03.01.2008

Feb 4 @ 9:37 PM ET
Dang, Halak is robbing us...should be at least 4-0 after two
slash&smash
Nashville Predators
Location: WTFDP!!!, NF
Joined: 01.26.2010

Feb 4 @ 10:35 PM ET
Pekka with 11 in arow!!!!!
jlhtn18
Nashville Predators
Location: Littleton, CO
Joined: 03.01.2008

Feb 4 @ 10:38 PM ET
Pekka with 11 in arow!!!!!
- slash&smash


Amazing stops by Rinne all night, especially in the 3rd....that toe save with mere seconds left before the empty netter, are you kidding??
wings-suck
Nashville Predators
Location: hendersonville, TN
Joined: 01.18.2009

Feb 5 @ 12:00 AM ET
For all of you hockey fans who live in another market:

You truly are missing one of the greatest goalies now playing doing it every night. I sh!t you not.
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