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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
Han Shot First has its own Wiki page. People will put anything on the internet.
- Duran76


All in all it's not a big deal, but it was a very good character development point.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Feb 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
oh lord, Friday drinking hour start early today?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
Yup. Just leave well enough alone, already. I understand the limitations they had back in the day, but don't start changing the story around. Just enhance what was there the best you can. Kinda like what they're doing with the Star Trek NG BluRay dvds. Use modern techniques to enhance the story, not change it.
- rockychocbill

The guy just keeps making baffling decisions. And it's his movie franchise to do with as he pleases, I understand that. But I think he kind of owes it to culture to also offer us the unedited product. It's ironic that he withholds it, after he championed the fight against Ted Turner's colorization campaign and for the creation of the National Film Archive.

I sometimes find it hard to believe that George Lucas said this in the original "making of" Star Wars documentary:

"Special effects are just a tool, a means of telling a story. People have a tendency to confuse them as an end to themselves. A Special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing. "
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 3 @ 3:42 PM ET

- rockychocbill

Heh. I stopped caring after the second use of the word.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:42 PM ET
The guy just keeps making baffling decisions. And it's his movie franchise to do with as he pleases, I understand that. But I think he kind of owes it to culture to also offer us the unedited product. It's ironic that he withholds it, after he championed the fight against Ted Turner's colorization campaign and for the creation of the National Film Archive.

I sometimes find it hard to believe that George Lucas said this in the original "making of" Star Wars documentary:

"Special effects are just a tool, a means of telling a story. People have a tendency to confuse them as an end to themselves. A Special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing. "

- BulliesPhan87


I had totally forgotten about that until I saw the dvd. Crazy, the irony there.
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Feb 3 @ 3:43 PM ET



Just to add to some of the SW talk. I always thought this was hilarious.
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rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:44 PM ET
Heh. I stopped caring after the second use of the word.
- Flyskippy


Talk like that is Yoda the only one allowed to.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 3 @ 3:45 PM ET
The guy just keeps making baffling decisions. And it's his movie franchise to do with as he pleases, I understand that. But I think he kind of owes it to culture to also offer us the unedited product. It's ironic that he withholds it, after he championed the fight against Ted Turner's colorization campaign and for the creation of the National Film Archive.

I sometimes find it hard to believe that George Lucas said this in the original "making of" Star Wars documentary:

"Special effects are just a tool, a means of telling a story. People have a tendency to confuse them as an end to themselves. A Special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing. "

- BulliesPhan87


Lucas has nobody editing his ideas anymore. Just "Yes" Men/Women. Thus, there is no one having his ideas bounced off of anymore. The prequels were all sizzle, no steak. Or... special effects without a story (or, better yet, a story where we all knew the eventual end).
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 3 @ 3:46 PM ET
never seen any star wars prequels
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 3 @ 3:47 PM ET
I had totally forgotten about that until I saw the dvd. Crazy, the irony there.
- rockychocbill


He did mention that in an interview I saw, he feels it's different if the original director goes back and makes changes, because that's still their story...somebody buying the film and changing it is wrong, but if Hitchcock went back and colored "Pyscho" it'd be OK
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 3 @ 3:47 PM ET
Lucas has nobody editing his ideas anymore. Just "Yes" Men/Women. Thus, there is no one having his ideas bounced off of anymore. The prequels were all sizzle, no steak. Or... special effects without a story (or, better yet, a story where we all knew the eventual end).
- Flyskippy

They were boring, flatly shot, poorly written movies that relied on special effects that no longer impress. In a day and age where entire movies are designed with computer effects and graphics, they really needed the kind of strong writing that made Empire Strikes Back great. There's no substitute for good writing when it comes to film.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:48 PM ET
Just to add to some of the SW talk. I always thought this was hilarious.

- Duran76[url]


Is that Kevin Spacey before he made it big?
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:49 PM ET
never seen any star wars prequels
- Crimsoninja


Virgin.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 3 @ 3:50 PM ET
Just to add to some of the SW talk. I always thought this was hilarious.

- Duran76[url]

That was the last time I watched SNL. I hadn't been watching it for a long while up to that point, but wanted to watch Kevin Spacey, as he's one of my favorite actors.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 3 @ 3:50 PM ET
never seen any star wars prequels
- Crimsoninja


Only watched one movie. Not for me.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 3 @ 3:51 PM ET
never seen any star wars prequels
- Crimsoninja

*jealous*
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:51 PM ET
He did mention that in an interview I saw, he feels it's different if the original director goes back and makes changes, because that's still their story...somebody buying the film and changing it is wrong, but if Hitchcock went back and colored "Pyscho" it'd be OK
- Jsaquella


It was just colorization George. Who cares who puts the makeup on?

*although I'm against colorization myself*
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
Virgin.
- rockychocbill

pretty sure the theater was full of em
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Feb 3 @ 3:53 PM ET
pretty sure the theater was full of em
- Crimsoninja


ZING
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 3 @ 3:53 PM ET
pretty sure the theater was full of em
- Crimsoninja





rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
Only watched one movie. Not for me.
- stveshdy


I saw it on opening day 1977. Still one of the, if not "the", greatest movie experiences I've ever had.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
It was just colorization George. Who cares who puts the makeup on?

*although I'm against colorization myself*

- rockychocbill


Me, too.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
pretty sure the theater was full of em
- Crimsoninja

rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:56 PM ET
pretty sure the theater was full of em
- Crimsoninja


Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 3 @ 3:56 PM ET
I saw it on opening day 1977. Still one of the, if not "the", greatest movie experiences I've ever had.
- rockychocbill



The original three are great. I disbelieve the prequels.
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