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coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 1 @ 11:34 PM ET
He would crumble under the pressure of playing in Philly and take over Shelley's role on this board.
- rockychocbill


I don't think so, he wouldn't be the go to D man here. He could play the PP but Mezzy, Coburn, and Carle, Timmonen would all have similiar expectations on them IMHO.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 1 @ 11:38 PM ET
It would be this guy. Good (frank)ing lord.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Sloane

- PLindbergh31


that's him. i was close.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 1 @ 11:40 PM ET
Vishnovsky from ANA is a guy I could see being available. Any interest?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 1 @ 11:41 PM ET
Vishnovsky from ANA is a guy I could see being available. Any interest?
- coffee junkie

That's a big cap hit, plus another year. I don't know much about his play.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 1 @ 11:41 PM ET
He would crumble under the pressure of playing in Philly and take over Shelley's role on this board.
- rockychocbill



nope we need this type of play from defense
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:41 PM ET
I don't think so, he wouldn't be the go to D man here. He could play the PP but Mezzy, Coburn, and Carle, Timmonen would all have similiar expectations on them IMHO.
- coffee junkie


Johnson isn't very good in his own end, he has been a minus player ever year of his career. He's -8 this year on a team that doesn't give up many goals, and has outstanding goaltending.

He's pretty good offensively, and pretty good on the PP. Think of Mike Green with less offense
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 1 @ 11:42 PM ET
Vishnovsky from ANA is a guy I could see being available. Any interest?
- coffee junkie

NOPE old and washed up
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:42 PM ET
I don't think so, he wouldn't be the go to D man here. He could play the PP but Mezzy, Coburn, and Carle, Timmonen would all have similiar expectations on them IMHO.
- coffee junkie


Carle would be gone if Johnson is coming I think. Timo gets a pass due to his age and likability quotient. Coburn is..... well, Coburn. No high expectations anymore. That leaves Mezzy and the rookies and I doubt any of them would be looked at the way Johnson would be coming in. He'd have to bring way more than just some PP numbers if he's going to be replacing Carle (and to some extent Pronger).
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:44 PM ET
nope we need this type of play from defense
- 2Real


How many years ago was that?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 1 @ 11:45 PM ET
How many years ago was that?
- rockychocbill

about 4 but i remember watching it on tv
that a problem?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 1 @ 11:45 PM ET
Carle would be gone if Johnson is coming I think. Timo gets a pass due to his age and likability quotient. Coburn is..... well, Coburn. No high expectations anymore. That leaves Mezzy and the rookies and I doubt any of them would be looked at the way Johnson would be coming in. He'd have to bring way more than just some PP numbers if he's going to be replacing Carle (and to some extent Pronger).
- rockychocbill

Without looking at any numbers, JJ coming in would mean the end of the road for Carle in Philadelphia. I think, considering the substantial cap hit and the boatload of years on his contract, that expectations would be fairly high, especially if we gave up something substantial for him.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:46 PM ET
that's him. i was close.
- hammarby31


That was pathetic he played in an NHL game. I remember just shaking my head in disgust. Why not just go with 5 dmen?
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:46 PM ET
Vishnovsky from ANA is a guy I could see being available. Any interest?
- coffee junkie


Better PP guy than Johnson. Was golden for my fantasy team last year. But is getting long in the tooth as 2real said.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 1 @ 11:47 PM ET
Johnson isn't very good in his own end, he has been a minus player ever year of his career. He's -8 this year on a team that doesn't give up many goals, and has outstanding goaltending.

He's pretty good offensively, and pretty good on the PP. Think of Mike Green with less offense

- PLindbergh31


Trouble with Johnson is that he'd basicazlly replace Carle, and I don't think he's as good all around as our young, soon to be massively rich Alaskan friend
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:47 PM ET
about 4 but i remember watching it on tv
that a problem?

- 2Real


Yes. He hasn't made a hit like that since.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 1 @ 11:47 PM ET
Without looking at any numbers, JJ coming in would mean the end of the road for Carle in Philadelphia. I think, considering the substantial cap hit and the boatload of years on his contract, that expectations would be fairly high, especially if we gave up something substantial for him.
- BulliesPhan87

JJ also blocks a lot of shots which would help beachballgov
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 1 @ 11:48 PM ET
Yes. He hasn't made a hit like that since.
- rockychocbill

so you think
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:48 PM ET
Trouble with Johnson is that he'd basicazlly replace Carle, and I don't think he's as good all around as our young, soon to be massively rich Alaskan friend
- Jsaquella


Nope. He's not as good all around as Carle is.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:49 PM ET
Trouble with Johnson is that he'd basicazlly replace Carle, and I don't think he's as good all around as our young, soon to be massively rich Alaskan friend
- Jsaquella


How was the ASG? Did Guacapoopsie enjoy?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 1 @ 11:50 PM ET
Nope. He's not as good all around as Carle is.
- PLindbergh31


But, he is signed for a long time at less than Carle would be...My brain is dead, so out side of rehashing old names, just don;t do anything dumb, Holmger.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 1 @ 11:50 PM ET
Nope. He's not as good all around as Carle is.
- PLindbergh31

JJ's shot can actually break a tissue so he's already an upgrade
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 1 @ 11:51 PM ET
But, he is signed for a long time at less than Carle would be...My brain is dead, so out side of rehashing old names, just don;t do anything dumb, Holmger.
- Jsaquella

JVR for JJ and Lokotinov would be a great deal
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:52 PM ET
so you think
- 2Real


I had CI last season and live in the same time zone as you. I must have seen over 50 Kings games. He's not atrocious, but he's prone to brain farts, misses the net more than he hits it and is not mean or overly physical.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 1 @ 11:52 PM ET
How was the ASG? Did Guacapoopsie enjoy?
- rockychocbill


We had a BLAST. All the mascots were there, and she got to dance at every goal. I ran into John Stevens, which was cool-he was inducted into the AHL HOF-and was sitting the next section over.

Guacapoopie ate about 14 lbs of cotton candy and I bought her a puck, which she's been carrying since Monday night
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 1 @ 11:54 PM ET
I had CI last season and live in the same time zone as you. I must have seen over 50 Kings games. He's not atrocious, but he's prone to brain farts, misses the net more than he hits it and is not mean or overly physical.
- rockychocbill

better than carle coburn or mezzy
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