Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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I used to watch the pair in London and wow what a pair.
Would be nice but then they need to find a winger for Toews - Cartwrightfor4
Hossa-Toews-Hemsky
Sharp-Gagner-Kane
Brunette-Bolland-Stalberg
Shaw-Kruger-Mayers
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oilersfanatic
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: City Of "next year", AB Joined: 10.20.2007
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Sow start healthy scratch = expendable - Cartwrightfor4
Except he was never a healthy scratch unlike Omark who you had as an example of why Gagner was expendable |
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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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UFA 36 year-old Sutton + a prospect isn't fairly close to Peckham and a top 35 pick? - Morris
No. When I say prospect, I mean a guy like Curtis Hamilton. |
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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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i don't think the Hawks are interested in Hemsky or Gagner. I could be wrong. Not what they need. - John Jaeckel
They desperately need a center, I know.
Why not move Sharp back there 5 on 5? I know they've tried Kane there. |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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No. When I say prospect, I mean a guy like Curtis Hamilton. - mochoson
To play devil's advocate, Hamilton wasn't really considered a steal as a mid-second pick, and hasn't really improved that much vis a vis his draft standing. The only advantage he has over a higher 2nd would be that he's nominally closer to being an NHLer.
So is it that 40 games of Sutton is THAT much better than Peckham in your mind ? |
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Hossa-Toews-Hemsky
Sharp-Gagner-Kane
Brunette-Bolland-Stalberg
Shaw-Kruger-Mayers
- Morris
This would be placing Chicago into contender territory for sure if they all can stay healthy... that would be some awesome lines IMO |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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They desperately need a center, I know.
Why not move Sharp back there 5 on 5? I know they've tried Kane there. - mochoson
As blastphemous as it seems, the Cancuks and Hawks might make a good pair given that the nucks have centres galore and could use a guy with a bit of size and heart like Frolik. |
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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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To play devil's advocate, Hamilton wasn't really considered a steal as a mid-second pick, and hasn't really improved that much vis a vis his draft standing. The only advantage he has over a higher 2nd would be that he's nominally closer to being an NHLer.
So is it that 40 games of Sutton is THAT much better than Peckham in your mind ? - Morris
IMO? Yes. Sutton is a vet. He's going to be extremely valuable come playoff time. Not to mention he can still play a soilid 15-17 minutes a night.
While Peckham has made some strides in his game, I dont think he'd be as beneficial to the Hawks playoff run. Not to mention I'd like to see him re-up with Edmonton. |
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Zombie
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Canada, AB Joined: 06.30.2007
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Sow start healthy scratch = expendable - Cartwrightfor4
You are a little mixed up on your facts |
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kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Ferguson Joined: 01.16.2011
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Hossa-Toews-Hemsky
Sharp-Gagner-Kane
Brunette-Bolland-Stalberg
Shaw-Kruger-Mayers
- Morris
You forgot Morrison |
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gbosse
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 11.07.2011
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First!
Peckham and a 2nd round pick
I think Sutton is a slow dman in the mold of a younger O'Donnell. I don't know much about Peckham but think this deal might work. What kind of game does Peckham play? What is his contract status? - ikeane
For me Peckham has skating issues (lacks lateral movement) needed to be a true shutdown guy and has issues with defensive positioning. However, that being said he is young and still has time to mature into a true shut down D and it is well known that D-men take time to develop.
He was definitely rushed to the NHL due to injuries but he has some very good qualities. He has size and uses it. Young dman with size are often knocked for not using their size. He is a complete tank and willing to drop the mitts when need be. From his early NHL action he seems to pick his spots much better. However I feel his overall development has slowed significantly compared to other young dmen in the Oilers system.
Peckham and a 3rd for Frolik makes sense to me if the Hawks want to dump his salary due to underproduction. |
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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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You forgot Morrison - kingbrehm
Morrison honestly could be a healthy scratch with that line-up. Only person he could usurp would be Krueger. |
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Cartwrightfor4
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Toronto , ON Joined: 12.13.2011
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Hossa-Toews-Hemsky
Sharp-Gagner-Kane
Brunette-Bolland-Stalberg
Shaw-Kruger-Mayers
- Morris
Dont know about Hemsky but i like your thinking !! |
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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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Hossa-Toews-Hemsky
Sharp-Gagner-Kane
Brunette-Bolland-Stalberg
Shaw-Kruger-Mayers
- Morris
Not happening in this lifetime.
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Cartwrightfor4
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Toronto , ON Joined: 12.13.2011
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You are a little mixed up on your facts - Zombie
Gagner was out of the lineup for the first 2 games of the year just assumed it was Healthy Scratch. Hence why your the Oilers fan, who knows more.
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Cartwrightfor4
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Toronto , ON Joined: 12.13.2011
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Not happening in this lifetime. - John Jaeckel
C'mon JJ If you build it Cups will Come !!!! |
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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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They desperately need a center, I know.
Why not move Sharp back there 5 on 5? I know they've tried Kane there. - mochoson
Good question.
First, I don't necessarily agree they desperately need a center. It's a nice to have. But they have Sharp and Morrison and Kruger is maybe better than you guys realize.
What they need are:
- a physical defenseman (or two)
- and a physical forward (or two)
Gagner and Hemsky— all else aside— do nothing to address the Hawks biggest problem, keeping the puck out of their own net. They are not tough enough to play against over 200 feet of ice, and their defense after the top 3 gets a little dicey (at best)
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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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C'mon JJ If you build it Cups will Come !!!! - Cartwrightfor4
That lineup is soft as butter, worse still with Hemsky and Gagner. PASS! |
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Cartwrightfor4
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Toronto , ON Joined: 12.13.2011
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That lineup is soft as butter, worse still with Hemsky and Gagner. PASS! - John Jaeckel
I agree don't need 2 washington capitals in the league |
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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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Good question.
First, I don't necessarily agree they desperately need a center. It's a nice to have. But they have Sharp and Morrison and Kruger is maybe better than you guys realize.
What they need are:
- a physical defenseman (or two)
- and a physical forward (or two)
Gagner and Hemsky— all else aside— do nothing to address the Hawks biggest problem, keeping the puck out of their own net. They are not tough enough to play against over 200 feet of ice, and their defense after the top 3 gets a little dicey (at best) - John Jaeckel
I think Morrison is an ok bottom 6 center. Certainly ok for your team with a guy like Bolland. If Sharp is in the middle, then center's not really the issue.
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Rocket surgery!? - No Look Drop Pass
Brain science?? lol |
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Dear Oiler fans,
You are Canada's embarrassment 5 years running. At what point do you get rid of your "rebuilding" excuse and look at your team for what it really is. But that's ok because Hemsky is worth a lottery pick, mid-round 1st pick and an early 2nd rounder. Get real! Hemsky to a contender for a long playoff run? Hemsky is a strong as a honey glazed timbit.
Signed,
A hockey fan - jetsfan6
Go (frank) yourself.
signed
The rest of the world |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Good question.
First, I don't necessarily agree they desperately need a center. It's a nice to have. But they have Sharp and Morrison and Kruger is maybe better than you guys realize.
What they need are:
- a physical defenseman (or two)
- and a physical forward (or two)
Gagner and Hemsky— all else aside— do nothing to address the Hawks biggest problem, keeping the puck out of their own net. They are not tough enough to play against over 200 feet of ice, and their defense after the top 3 gets a little dicey (at best) - John Jaeckel
Well, there's a decent amount of gritty dmen to be had, but the only guy being loudly shopped that fits the bill for forwards is Ruutu, and I have a feeling he will cost an arm and a leg. |
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BuffaJoe
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: (frank) Lockouts, Bettman, GA Joined: 06.24.2011
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Has anyone heard an update regarding RNH? When is he supposed to play again? |
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