And he is retarded like 99% of Leaf fans!!
- undisputed_8821

Ohhhhhhhh .....burn

Breaking news from Sportsnet Pacific: Hemsky's value is a third round pick. *Maybe* a second.

This is from the same network that employs in depth men such as Nick Kypreos, Don Taylor, Garry Valk, and John Garrett. So take that with a grain of salt. Maybe next to a slice of lime and a shot of taquila.

IMO I wouldn't throw in a 2nd with Peckham for Frolik. Unless the Oilers standings change significantly that 2nd rounder is essentially a late 1st (unless the Oil have someone else's 2nd). Make it a 3rd, throw in a 7th if it's really a big deal between the 2nd and 3rd and done deal.
- oilersfanatic

Throw in Gagner and Sutton for Frolik and Beach with a draft pick and we have a deal. The Kane Gagner reunion woule be ideal for the Hawks on a lot of levels,

Throw in Gagner and Sutton for Frolik and Beach with a draft pick and we have a deal. The Kane Gagner reunion woule be ideal for the Hawks on a lot of levels,
- Cartwrightfor4

And the Oilers would do this trade why?

Hemsky to Boston makes total sense to me. Who wouldn't want to go to the Bruins with their cup chances this season? They have all sorts of cap room too.

I know it's never going to happen in a million years, but I wish there was some way the Oilers could give Hemsky+ for Dougie Hamilton. That's my dreaming moment for the day. Back to reality...

The difficulty in predicting an Bruins/Oilers deal with Hemsky is in the return. The Bruins have several decent young prospects, but I'm not sure which ones, outside of Hamilton, would be a future solution for the Oilers. Up front, the Oilers need more size, and most of the better Bruins forward prospects are smaller in size. On D, maybe Steven Kampfer would be of interest? I'll go with that. Kampfer and the Bruins 1st round pick in 2012 gets you Hemsky.
- Maxbone

While sometimes I get down on Kampfer he does have the potential to be a really good puck moving D-Man(sorry for buzz word. force of habit after Bourque left.) I just don't see this happening with the Bruins given the lack of spots and opportunities available to him which makes him expendable IMO. Also it looks like PC is going to grab a vet 7th D-Man for the playoffs. I would do this deal in a second.

Richard Cloutier: Would the Oilers Frolic with Frolik?
- Maxbone

Frolik, Beach, 1st for Hemsky, Sutton, Peckham?

One guy that I wanted it our of Boston and maybe not for Hemsky, but Mcquaid.

I'm assuming Dougie Hamilton is untouchable for Hemsky?
- Lahey

I'd go Hemsky and Pajaarvi for Dougie Hamilton. The guy is an absolute beast. As blue chip as you get.

Lol you think you're getting a 1st in return for Hemsky?? Yeah I'm the retard
- SameOld

Boston's 1st rounder will most likely be 28-30th. Dan Paille was a first rounder too (20th overall I believe) and the kid is an excellent PK but has hands of stone. Outside the top ten is crapshoot like the rest of the draft anyway.

Besides dude... Lucic/Krejci/Hemsky. SICK!

I'd go Hemsky and Pajaarvi for Dougie Hamilton. The guy is an absolute beast. As blue chip as you get.
- Oilersforlife

I absolutely love bringing this up.

Apparently Hemsky was in a deal for Columbus' 8th overall pick last year at the deadline. Dougie Hamilton went 9th overall. If this is true it goes to show you how great it is to have a GM that is so patient in making a deal.

Lol you think you're getting a 1st in return for Hemsky?? Yeah I'm the retard
- SameOld

You're right. Before this season Hemsky had a better track record than Kessel so he's worth at least 1 lottery pick, a mid-round 1st round pick and an early 2nd rounder.

Richard Cloutier: Would the Oilers Frolic with Frolik?
- Maxbone

Peckham is nowhere near worth what Frolik is.

Packaging Sutton and prospect could probably do it. I could even see Petry for him straight up, and the only reason thatll happen is if Chicago really wants to cut salary.

Your logic is almost laughable. You should probably watch a guy like Frolik play a bit before you post something like this.

I think Frolik, Lalonde, and Morin for Sutton and Hemsky is more then fair.

I absolutely love bringing this up.

Apparently Hemsky was in a deal for Columbus' 8th overall pick last year at the deadline. Dougie Hamilton went 9th overall. If this is true it goes to show you how great it is to have a GM that is so patient in making a deal.
- spawnofbettman

Do you have a link to this? and was it Hemsky for the 8th straight up or part of a deal?

I absolutely love bringing this up.

Apparently Hemsky was in a deal for Columbus' 8th overall pick last year at the deadline. Dougie Hamilton went 9th overall. If this is true it goes to show you how great it is to have a GM that is so patient in making a deal.
- spawnofbettman

If this really is true if I'm Katz, Steve Tambellini would be leaving that draft in a body bag.

Do you have a link to this? and was it Hemsky for the 8th straight up or part of a deal?
- Morris

It's just been in the back of my head since the draft. For all I know (and I'm probably right) Clouts made it up.

And the Oilers would do this trade why?
- oilersfanatic

Gagner was an expendable at the beginning of the year and now bcs of injuries, he has ecxelled. Once Omark and the Nuge return he may look to be expendable once again. expecillay with RFA status next year.

Peckham is nowhere near worth what Frolik is.

Packaging Sutton and prospect could probably do it. I could even see Petry for him straight up, and the only reason thatll happen is if Chicago really wants to cut salary.

Your logic is almost laughable. You should probably watch a guy like Frolik play a bit before you post something like this.

I think Frolik, Lalonde, and Morin for Sutton and Hemsky is more then fair.
- mochoson

UFA 36 year-old Sutton + a prospect isn't fairly close to Peckham and a top 35 pick?

Gagner was an expendable at the beginning of the year and now bcs of injuries, he has ecxelled. Once Omark and the Nuge return he may look to be expendable once again. expecillay with RFA status next year.
- Cartwrightfor4

Gagner is twice the player Omark is, and I think he was tradeable, but not expendable at the beginning of the year.

Peckham is nowhere near worth what Frolik is.

Packaging Sutton and prospect could probably do it. I could even see Petry for him straight up, and the only reason thatll happen is if Chicago really wants to cut salary.

Your logic is almost laughable. You should probably watch a guy like Frolik play a bit before you post something like this.

I think Frolik, Lalonde, and Morin for Sutton and Hemsky is more then fair.
- mochoson

Not sure if Chicago would agree to that.

Gagner is twice the player Omark is, and I think he was tradeable, but not expendable at the beginning of the year.
- Morris

Fair enough more of an Oilers fan then I !!!

Fair enough more of an Oilers fan then I !!!
- Cartwrightfor4

Everyone hates on Gagner actually even oilers fans, I think i've got a soft spot for him. Seeing him back with Kane would give a major kick to his game though.

Gagner was an expendable at the beginning of the year and now bcs of injuries, he has ecxelled. Once Omark and the Nuge return he may look to be expendable once again. expecillay with RFA status next year.
- Cartwrightfor4

He was never expendable. He was off to a slow start due to coming back from a wrist injury at the end of last season and an ankle sprain at the beginning of preseason

Everyone hates on Gagner actually even oilers fans, I think i've got a soft spot for him. Seeing him back with Kane would give a major kick to his game though.
- Morris

I used to watch the pair in London and wow what a pair.
Would be nice but then they need to find a winger for Toews

He was never expendable. He was off to a slow start due to coming back from a wrist injury at the end of last season and an ankle sprain at the beginning of preseason
- oilersfanatic

Sow start healthy scratch = expendable

Considering he's a healthy scratch for Bickell and he's not even being played to audition for other teams I don't see him fitting in the future plans for the Hawks and he would be a salary dump.

I'm also biased and want Peckham gone. Slowest turning dman in the league and he's becoming Moreau 2.0 with his after the whistle penalties. But the early 2nd rounder is more important for the Oil's rebuild than a 2.3M reclamation project.

Also unless the Oil are willing to give him 2nd line mins, they shouldn't try acquiring him. We'll get the same results as Chicago if we give him bottom 6 mins.
- oilersfanatic

You are assuming some things here that aren't necessarily correct. Bickell and Frolik are bothon the block and both have been offered up to different teams.

FWIW, as I said to a friend this AM, if I were offered either, I would swallow the extra 1.7 million per and go with Frolik. Why? Bickell is a tin man. All world size, skating and shot, but no heart. Frolik is today, and will be somewhere, a very good third line winger who you can spot up and down your lineup. He works hard every night and wins pucks and he can finish plays. And I don't think Quenneville is happy about having had to sit Frolik for Bickell and some rookies recently— because I think those guys are getting auditioned, not so much Frolik.

Peckham is nowhere near worth what Frolik is.

Packaging Sutton and prospect could probably do it. I could even see Petry for him straight up, and the only reason thatll happen is if Chicago really wants to cut salary.

Your logic is almost laughable. You should probably watch a guy like Frolik play a bit before you post something like this.

I think Frolik, Lalonde, and Morin for Sutton and Hemsky is more then fair.
- mochoson

i don't think the Hawks are interested in Hemsky or Gagner. I could be wrong. Not what they need.