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Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:36 PM ET
So you think they will traded Suter this offseason and Weber next offseason?

- jak521

I think they'll trade Suter's rights at the draft and Weber being traded will depend on how well Nashville does next season. Right now I'm assuming Nashville will continue to do well, so yes, I think they'll trade Weber's rights in the summer of 2013. Of course this is only assuming both do not re-sign with Nashville.

How crazy is my thinking?

EDIT

Now that I re-read my comment, if the Preds were to move Weber this summer, they'd more then likely get a boat load for him.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jan 31 @ 2:36 PM ET
Just prepair yourselves for Jagr to milk this groin all year long. When you need him most he will be no where to be found. E
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:37 PM ET
Are you serious right now?
- jak521

I'm dead serious. My original statement was quite clear and there is a difference.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 31 @ 2:39 PM ET
Nashville already has $33 million under contract for next season. That doesn't include Weber, Suter, Kostitsyn, or Colin Wilson.

If you give Weber $8 million and Suter $6 million, that puts them at $47 million -- which is very close to what they spend each year. They would have to dump a contract in order to re-sign RFA's Kostitsyn and Colin Wilson.

That doesn't even get you into the category of adding more talent. You're actually losing talent at that point.

They're going to have to end up choosing one or risk having two unhappy players on long-term contracts.

- bradleyc4


Poile probably signed Rinne long-term because he was the only one he could get to do so that far out, but obviously the move would have been to tell Rinne to go pound sand and sign Weber and Suter.
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jan 31 @ 2:39 PM ET
IMO, they have to choose between one. Poiles been given the green light to throw whatever money he can at Weber to keep him there. Theres no doubt in my mind, regardless of whatever their budget might be internally (which won't be the to the cap, but shouldn't be 10+ mill under it like this season either) that they will keep Weber.

Keeping Suter is going to be the issue. It can certainly be done. Look at Chicago. Although they spend to the cap, they have quite a few big ticket players.

But I don't think Suter stays if he wants 7+ mill. 6? Yes. 6.5? I think thats the max Nashvilles gotta spend. You can't give Suter 7. You cant have 21 million tied up between two Dmen and a goalie, IMO anyway. It'll be tough as it is giving suter 6. 7 is probably out of the question.

- mochoson



Players don't really care what their cap hit is though. Suter is not having his agent walk into Poile's office and say Ryan wants his cap hit to be 7 mil per year. He's going in and saying Ryan wants 50 million (just a guess).
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 31 @ 2:40 PM ET
I've agreed with everything you've said up until now. I'm sure the Preds want something for Suter but they're in the playoffs and Suter is a big reason why. I think both guys are off season types of moves. Suter in 2012, Weber in 2013.
- Schenn2shine


I don't think it's what they will do, but I do think it's what they should do.

Much easier for me to say as an armchair GM.

You're getting jack for "the rights" to Suter this off-season. Maybe a 3rd round pick? You could get a 1st or a top prospect (and more) by the trade deadline.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:42 PM ET
I don't think it's what they will do, it's what I think they should do.

Much easier for me to say as an armchair GM.

You're getting jack for "the rights" to Suter this off-season. Maybe a 3rd round pick? You could get a 1st or a top prospect (and more) by the trade deadline.

- bradleyc4

Again sir, we agree. Especially when you put it this way.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 31 @ 2:45 PM ET
Just prepair yourselves for Jagr to milk this groin all year long. When you need him most he will be no where to be found. E
- nbartley9

I will not prepair for any groin milking. Get out of here with your sick perviness. E
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:45 PM ET
I will not prepair for any groin milking. Get out of here with your sick perviness. E
- feelingkettle

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 31 @ 2:46 PM ET
I will not prepair for any groin milking. Get out of here with your sick perviness. E
- feelingkettle

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FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:47 PM ET
Bryz is starting, so this is gonna be either a close W or a L, which shouldnt happen against this team missing Kane, buff and Burmi.

Anywho, GO FLYERS!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 31 @ 2:48 PM ET
I will not prepair for any groin milking. Get out of here with your sick perviness. E
- feelingkettle

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 31 @ 2:49 PM ET
Bryz is starting, so this is gonna be either a close W or a L, which shouldnt happen against this team missing Kane, buff and Burmi.

Anywho, GO FLYERS!

- FLYERSROCK!


youarewrong
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jan 31 @ 2:50 PM ET
prepare?
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:50 PM ET
Bryz is starting, so this is gonna be either a close W or a L, which shouldnt happen against this team missing Kane, buff and Burmi.

Anywho, GO FLYERS!

- FLYERSROCK!

Have you been banned or something? I don't think I've seen you on in a while.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:52 PM ET
I'm dead serious. My original statement was quite clear.
- Schenn2shine

Yes. Crystal.

Nashville is 12th in the league in total offense.. just trailing the Rangers.
- jak521

Can they not improve or should Weber be expected to be their lead scorer for years to come?

I am saying that, since Weber has NEVER been their leading scorer, and they are very young they will continue to improve. They have 9 guys on their team with atleast 10 goals. I also made it a point to say that I would expect Weber to be one of the leading scorers. He shouldnt and hasnt been their leading point getter... but he should and has been one of their leaders.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:56 PM ET
Yes. Crystal.

Nashville is 12th in the league in total offense.. just trailing the Rangers.
- jak521

Can they not improve or should Weber be expected to be their lead scorer for years to come?

I am saying that, since Weber has NEVER been their leading scorer, and they are very young they will continue to improve. They have 9 guys on their team with atleast 10 goals. I also made it a point to say that I would expect Weber to be one of the leading scorers. He shouldnt and hasnt been their leading point getter... but he should and has been one of their leaders.

- jak521


All I can do is shake my head and say okay.

EDIT

It doesn't matter anyway because Martin Erat recently took over the scoring lead for the Preds in Weber's place.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:57 PM ET
I don't think it's what they will do, but I do think it's what they should do.

Much easier for me to say as an armchair GM.

You're getting jack for "the rights" to Suter this off-season. Maybe a 3rd round pick? You could get a 1st or a top prospect (and more) by the trade deadline.

- bradleyc4

You think they should trade both Suter and Weber in the off season.. on this year and one next year? They are #4 in the NHL. They just signed their goalie (and a top 5 NHL goalie at that) to a long term deal. They have a bunch of young guys moving up through the ranks. Why blow it up?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:57 PM ET
All I can do is shake my head and say okay.
- Schenn2shine

Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:58 PM ET

- jak521

It doesn't matter anyway because Martin Erat recently took over the scoring lead for the Preds in Weber's place.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 31 @ 3:00 PM ET
It doesn't matter anyway because Martin Erat recently took over the scoring lead for the Preds in Weber's place.
- Schenn2shine

They have an extremely balanced offense, that will likely only continue to improve.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 31 @ 3:01 PM ET
Ek says don't be surprised if the Flyers go for a big name forward at the trade deadline. What the (frank) is he smoking? E
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 3:02 PM ET
They have an extremely balanced offense, that will likely only continue to improve.
- jak521

They're looking for for offense right now, which was the point. Through the entire first half of their season, Weber had led his team in scoring. You want the forwards to do that, which is why they're looking for offense. If the offense was that balanced, they wouldn't be looking for more offense.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 3:02 PM ET
I am surprised the site didn't crash from Ek's new blog
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jan 31 @ 3:06 PM ET
Have you been banned or something? I don't think I've seen you on in a while.
- Schenn2shine

Ya im IP banned for doing nothing.

Im at school so different IP address.
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