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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jan 31 @ 4:50 PM ET
Who needs a reason?


- Flyskippy

the last shelley to draw this much ire...

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 31 @ 4:52 PM ET
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 4:53 PM ET
Players don't really care what their cap hit is though. Suter is not having his agent walk into Poile's office and say Ryan wants his cap hit to be 7 mil per year. He's going in and saying Ryan wants 50 million (just a guess).
- Duran76


That's correct. Players don't negotiate for a cap hit. They negotiate for cash.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 4:57 PM ET

- BulliesPhan87


Awesome! I wish you posted this before the last page cut off. A lot of silence for a while there.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:00 PM ET
Shea Weber wants $7+ million/year on a small market club and wants them to also commit to bringing in more talent?

Either he's incredibly stupid, or he's just trying to say the right thing.

Nashville can't do both (re-sign Weber or Suter long-term at those dollars and bring in more talent).

What they can do is try to pick up some forwards by the trade deadline who have expiring contracts and try to win this season paying those new players only a small portion of their owed salary. But that has no bearing on who will be on the team the following season.

- bradleyc4


This echoes my thoughts as well, although I believe I heard over the all star break (somewhere in all the Suter-related coverage) that Nashville ownership has promised to spend to the cap ceiling next year. If in fact that is true, they have more options. I guess we'll see.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:02 PM ET
This echoes my thoughts as well, although I believe I heard over the all star break (somewhere in all the Suter-related coverage) that Nashville ownership has promised to spend to the cap ceiling next year. If in fact that is true, they have more options. I guess we'll see.
- BringBack25


for what it's worth: http://www.thehockeynews....mor-Focus-Ryan-Suter.html
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:03 PM ET
Looks like I am wrong. Players can only be taken to Arbitration 1 time in their career. That may change things, as Weber can refuse to sign an offer with Nashville, and accept a 1 year deal from another team. Nashville will likely accept the deal, then trade him though...
- RooNosHockey


A team can only take a player to Arbitration once. A player can only be subjected to team elected arbitration once in his career. A player who is an RFA can elect arbitration every year. Weber, as an RFA, cannot refuse to sign an offer and accept a 1 year deal from another team. The only way another team can get Weber this off season, is through a trade, or an Offer Sheet. And an Offer Sheet isn't going to be for one year. And Weber isn't likely to sign an Offer Sheet with another team.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:07 PM ET
LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!

- ggunky


bump
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:08 PM ET
bump
- ob18

jinx
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:12 PM ET
This echoes my thoughts as well, although I believe I heard over the all star break (somewhere in all the Suter-related coverage) that Nashville ownership has promised to spend to the cap ceiling next year. If in fact that is true, they have more options. I guess we'll see.
- BringBack25


I've heard that also. Nashville sells out almost every home game. If they are going to spend to the Cap ceiling, with a little creativity, they can sign both Weber and Suter. And add some firepower up front.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:21 PM ET
I've heard that also. Nashville sells out almost every home game. If they are going to spend to the Cap ceiling, with a little creativity, they can sign both Weber and Suter. And add some firepower up front.
- MJL

they give away tickets
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jan 31 @ 5:22 PM ET
Just got $86 tickets for $18. And thats including service fees.

Mother (frank) I love stubhub.

mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jan 31 @ 5:23 PM ET
they give away tickets
- 2Real


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 31 @ 5:39 PM ET
Seravelli on DNL spouting his peculiar brand of folksy wisdom.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:44 PM ET
What the hell is going on here?

An independent specialist contacted to review recent medical tests taken on Sidney Crosby found no evidence of a past or present neck fracture but verified that Crosby is suffering from a soft-tissue injury of the neck, that could be causing neurological symptoms.

http://penguins.nhl.com/c...&cmpid=pit-fb-pghpenguins
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:45 PM ET
Seravelli on DNL spouting his peculiar brand of folksy wisdom.
- MBFlyerfan

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 31 @ 5:48 PM ET
What the hell is going on here?

An independent specialist contacted to review recent medical tests taken on Sidney Crosby found no evidence of a past or present neck fracture but verified that Crosby is suffering from a soft-tissue injury of the neck, that could be causing neurological symptoms.

http://penguins.nhl.com/c...&cmpid=pit-fb-pghpenguins

- tangent_man



Maybe some of the medical experts in here can help us out....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:50 PM ET
Maybe some of the medical experts in here can help us out....
- MBFlyerfan


Thanks to the wisdom of Hockeybuzz, the Flyers Medical Staff is now recommending stretching to it's players. Especially those players with a history of groin issues.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 31 @ 5:54 PM ET
A team can only take a player to Arbitration once. A player can only be subjected to team elected arbitration once in his career. A player who is an RFA can elect arbitration every year. Weber, as an RFA, cannot refuse to sign an offer and accept a 1 year deal from another team. The only way another team can get Weber this off season, is through a trade, or an Offer Sheet. And an Offer Sheet isn't going to be for one year. And Weber isn't likely to sign an Offer Sheet with another team.
- MJL


I was talking about an offer sheet, and yes teams would make an ofer sheet for 1 year, because I doubt Weber would sign anything longer if he was trying to get out of Nashville. The whole purpose would be to sign a deal, knowing that just about whatever the deal, Nashville would match. So a 1 year deal, would put Weber to UFA after Nashville decided to match, otherwise the signing team would have the whole year to work out an extension, and if Weber desides to sign with them in the first place it is likely he would do so again.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 31 @ 5:58 PM ET
Thanks to the wisdom of Hockeybuzz, the Flyers Medical Staff is now recommending stretching to it's players. Especially those players with a history of groin issues.
- MJL

wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:58 PM ET
http://www.startribune.co...orts/blogs/138431369.html

any interest? if so, for what? i remember him being pretty good a few years back. i don't like going to the media, but it may make him cheap.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:59 PM ET
I was talking about an offer sheet, and yes teams would make an ofer sheet for 1 year, because I doubt Weber would sign anything longer if he was trying to get out of Nashville. The whole purpose would be to sign a deal, knowing that just about whatever the deal, Nashville would match. So a 1 year deal, would put Weber to UFA after Nashville decided to match, otherwise the signing team would have the whole year to work out an extension, and if Weber desides to sign with them in the first place it is likely he would do so again.
- RooNosHockey


No team would make an Offer Sheet for one year. It is a waste of time. Do you know what the compensation is to sign a player such as Weber to an Offer Sheet, and what it would take salary wise? Weber is going to be a UFA in a year anyway. That makes zero sense. Weber doesn't need any of that nonsense just to get a one year deal from Nashville.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jan 31 @ 6:00 PM ET
I've heard that also. Nashville sells out almost every home game. If they are going to spend to the Cap ceiling, with a little creativity, they can sign both Weber and Suter. And add some firepower up front.
- MJL


I think so too. There is still the issue of actually getting the right missing pieces and convincing Webber & Suter that ownership will follow through on their promise. But if they are convinced, and if they both want to stay, there's no reason why that can't happen if Nashville is willing to spend to the ceiling. Should be interesting to to see what happens.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 31 @ 6:00 PM ET
the last shelley to draw this much ire...


- isaiah520

Who is that?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 31 @ 6:02 PM ET
http://www.startribune.co...orts/blogs/138431369.html

any interest? if so, for what? i remember him being pretty good a few years back. i don't like going to the media, but it may make him cheap.

- wilsonecho91


If he comes here, he'd be the best Z-named Flyer since Zarley Zalapski.
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