That really is a hell of a division, especially this year
- BulliesPhan87

The entire division will make the playoffs, minus Columbus obviously.

That really is a hell of a division, especially this year
- BulliesPhan87

Arguably the best in hockey...

That doesn't even make any sense. The team has to operate on a budget. The team remains competitive because they put so much emphasis on goaltending and defense. Its the organization's strengths. Its how Trotz likes to coach. Its the organizations identity.

I dont know what talent your talking about that has "got away". If they resign Hamhuis, then theres no way they can resign Pekka Rinne this year. Forget Suter or Weber.

The organization can't do anything about Radulov jumping ship. If he's still here, this team rivals Detroit, Vancouver, and Chicago with one of the best line-ups year in and year out.

I also don't know what you mean in regards to "no success in the playoffs". The team making the playoffs in general with the money they spend in itself is a huge success. Last year, they finally made it to the second round.

This year, there fourth overall in the league in points. 9 players with 10 goals or more. Vezina quality goalie in net. Depending on what Poile can pull off at the deadline, this team could run away with the West.

I dont see how someone can discount this team when they are in a division with the Blues, Red Wings, and Blackhawks, all while operating on a very strict budget.
- mochoson

Okay, so what is the Nashville Predator's budge? We've established that they have a budge but now what is it?

Shea Weber could ask for 8 million a season. I'm not aware of Rinne's cap hit when his contract kicks in but based on the first 3 years it looks like 7 million a season. So what other direction should the Preds go in because I'm thinking they could end up rapping up 15 million into 2 players.

EDIT

What will Suter command if they convince Suter to stay, so Weber will stay?

All I simply said was that I dont think Nashville would trade him. It doesnt make sense right now. You told me everyone else had him being traded.. I still have yet to see a single person who has him being traded. Every time you would attempt to make a point you would say something like.. "I dont know why this is so confusing" or something along those lines. Thats why this has been going on since noon.
- jak521

I never said Weber should get traded right now. In fact, I've stated many times that I doubt he gets traded during the regular season.

I miss Roenick97....

I miss Roenick97....
- hockeylover

You only think you do.

Okay, so what is the Nashville Predator's budge? We've established that they have a budge but now what is it?

Shea Weber could ask for 8 million a season. I'm not aware of Rinne's cap hit when his contract kicks in but based on the first 3 years it looks like 7 million a season. So what other direction should the Preds go in because I'm thinking they could end up rapping up 15 million into 2 players.
- Schenn2shine

Nashville's budget, based on the past two years and where they're at salary-wise right now, seems to be about $50m. That is, of course, before we ponder whether they can loosen the purse strings, and by how much.

I never said Weber should get traded right now. In fact, I've stated many times that I doubt he gets traded during the regular season.
- Schenn2shine

As in right now.. I mean this year. You said in the very beginning you didnt think it was likely he would be traded in the reg. season. I dont think he gets traded period. You disagreed. And off to the races...

Bottom line. I highly doubt Weber gets traded... It doesnt make sense to trade him away... If you think he will be.. more power to ya.

As in right now.. I mean this year. You said in the very beginning you didnt think it was likely he would be traded in the reg. season. I dont think he gets traded period. You disagreed. And off to the races...

Bottom line. I highly doubt Weber gets traded... It doesnt make sense to trade him away... If you think he will be.. more power to ya.
- jak521

Is that all you were trying to say? Okay. I think he will.

Shea Weber wants $7+ million/year on a small market club and wants them to also commit to bringing in more talent?

Either he's incredibly stupid, or he's just trying to say the right thing.

Nashville can't do both (re-sign Weber or Suter long-term at those dollars and bring in more talent).

What they can do is try to pick up some forwards by the trade deadline who have expiring contracts and try to win this season paying those new players only a small portion of their owed salary. But that has no bearing on who will be on the team the following season.

Nashville's budget, based on the past two years and where they're at salary-wise right now, seems to be about $50m. That is, of course, before we ponder whether they can loosen the purse strings, and by how much.
- BulliesPhan87

I feel Nashville's only real issue is a lack scoring. They've stayed rather loyal to David Legwand.

You only think you do.
- tangent_man

Shea Weber wants $7+ million/year on a small market club and wants them to also commit to bringing in more talent?

Either he's incredibly stupid, or he's just trying to say the right thing.

Nashville can't do both (re-sign Weber or Suter long-term at those dollars and bring in more talent).

What they can do is try to pick up some forwards by the trade deadline who have expiring contracts and try to win this season paying those new players only a small portion of their owed salary. But that has no bearing on who will be on the team the following season.
- bradleyc4

Obviously I'm not great with words but this is what I was trying to say.

guys, ive been roenick97 this whole time

Okay, so what is the Nashville Predator's budge? We've established that they have a budge but now what is it?

Shea Weber could ask for 8 million a season. I'm not aware of Rinne's cap hit when his contract kicks in but based on the first 3 years it looks like 7 million a season. So what other direction should the Preds go in because I'm thinking they could end up rapping up 15 million into 2 players.

EDIT

What will Suter command if they convince Suter to stay, so Weber will stay?
- Schenn2shine

IMO, they have to choose between one. Poiles been given the green light to throw whatever money he can at Weber to keep him there. Theres no doubt in my mind, regardless of whatever their budget might be internally (which won't be the to the cap, but shouldn't be 10+ mill under it like this season either) that they will keep Weber.

Keeping Suter is going to be the issue. It can certainly be done. Look at Chicago. Although they spend to the cap, they have quite a few big ticket players.

But I don't think Suter stays if he wants 7+ mill. 6? Yes. 6.5? I think thats the max Nashvilles gotta spend. You can't give Suter 7. You cant have 21 million tied up between two Dmen and a goalie, IMO anyway. It'll be tough as it is giving suter 6. 7 is probably out of the question.

Nashville's budget, based on the past two years and where they're at salary-wise right now, seems to be about $50m. That is, of course, before we ponder whether they can loosen the purse strings, and by how much.
- BulliesPhan87

Hell for all we know they wouldnt even need to loosen the purse strings for Weber.

They already are for Rinne.. but what if they signed Weber to an 11 year $75 mil deal.. his actual cap hit would drop. there is so much that can happen..

guys, ive been roenick97 this whole time
- Crimsoninja

Source?

guys, ive been roenick97 this whole time
- Crimsoninja

Timeline, please.

couldn't remember if it was 8-4 or 8-6. who was in net for the Jets?
- wilsonecho91

pretty sure it was 8-4. i'm guessing brian hayward, at least for part of it. can't imagine he got tagged for 8 goals.

Timeline, please.
- hockeylover

I hope Crims remembers to stretch before attempting this.

Timeline, please.
- hockeylover

Hell for all we know they wouldnt even need to loosen the purse strings for Weber.

They already are for Rinne.. but what if they signed Weber to an 11 year $75 mil deal.. his actual cap hit would drop. there is so much that can happen..
- jak521

Thats what I think is going to happen. Their going to sign these guys to big, long term deals that shorten the cap hit. That's actually probably what they have been attempting to do.

Its not that neither want to stay there. They both are presumably very happy with spending their entire careers there. But they likely want to know that this team will do all that it can to stay competitive year in and year out and go that extra mile to win the Stanley Cup, especially if their going to commit for 10+ years each.

Is that Act II popcorn?
- stveshdy

Cat II. High in protein.

IMO, they have to choose between one. Poiles been given the green light to throw whatever money he can at Weber to keep him there. Theres no doubt in my mind, regardless of whatever their budget might be internally (which won't be the to the cap, but shouldn't be 10+ mill under it like this season either) that they will keep Weber.

Keeping Suter is going to be the issue. It can certainly be done. Look at Chicago. Although they spend to the cap, they have quite a few big ticket players.

But I don't think Suter stays if he wants 7+ mill. 6? Yes. 6.5? I think thats the max Nashvilles gotta spend. You can't give Suter 7. You cant have 21 million tied up between two Dmen and a goalie, IMO anyway. It'll be tough as it is giving suter 6. 7 is probably out of the question.
- mochoson

The Chicago Black Hawks are the prime example of a bottom feeding team that got better in every single area of the game. I'm not taking any credit away from Weber but Suter obviously compliments Weber the same way Seabrooke has complimented Keith in the past. So where is the offense for the Preds? Where are they going to get it from with the type of budge they have? It's not at all crazy to suggest Weber could get traded, whether it's today or sometime before July 2013 (I feel he's an off season move). The rest of the world seems to be suggesting he'll get traded but for all I know Weber could be signing on the dotted line as we speak. I just feel he'll end up with another team before July 2013 but obviously that's just a guess.

guys, ive been roenick97 this whole time
- Crimsoninja

thanks clyde