If Yandle was to be traded to the Islanders, don't you think Streit would be one of the Islanders going back to Phoenix along with the #1 and either a prospect or Neilsen?
- kear20

id do that in a heart beat

why should we keep him when clearly he is not clicking here are we gioing to keep him like we did tambellini and get nothing for him or do we move him now in a package and get something for him, strome will be ready to puch for a spot next year
- cmimbri

Tambellini is out if the NHL . Why did you think snow dropped the ball on not getting anything?

why should we keep him when clearly he is not clicking here are we gioing to keep him like we did tambellini and get nothing for him or do we move him now in a package and get something for him, strome will be ready to puch for a spot next year
- cmimbri

please dont compare Bailey to Tambellini. Tambellini was ahl superstar that couldnt translate to NHL. Thats what you call a Bust

Strome could use another year in minors or some of you will call him a bust.
Would have liked to see nino in minor this year, so he could come into NHL next year and be in calder running.

Not going to keep saying this but Josh Bailey is 22 years old. Just b/c he not putting up huge number immediately does not make him a bust. Different players had different learning curves. sure he started off slow this year as did KO. But now both are producing.

I agree with post here. Give Bailey this year and next year on his 2 year deal. Then you can pass judgement.

2 shg recently and great two way play, he is making a case for himself. Just do him a favor and get ROLSTON off his line. That's the real isles problem.

please dont compare Bailey to Tambellini. Tambellini was ahl superstar that couldnt translate to NHL. Thats what you call a Bust

Strome could use another year in minors or some of you will call him a bust.
Would have liked to see nino in minor this year, so he could come into NHL next year and be in calder running.

Not going to keep saying this but Josh Bailey is 22 years old. Just b/c he not putting up huge number immediately does not make him a bust. Different players had different learning curves. sure he started off slow this year as did KO. But now both are producing.
- Spartiarti

You keep saying this, but the numbers say otherwise. He has but two points in the month of January, and they came four games apart from each other.

edit -- actually his production is down compared to both December (5 points) and November (6 points).

But then why is he any more valuable than PaP? Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I know you don't like PA and you point to the fact that PA's numbers are inflated because he played with Tavares and Moulson, which is a fair point. But then why is Bailey any better if he needs to have more talented players carry his game?

I realize that when you get stuck playing with crap you may be limited, but that's only to a point. It was an argument about Nino for awhile, and I felt the same way. He's not doing (and I feel he never really has) the little things right. He rarely takes the body, he appears terrified to shoot the puck when he has perfect opportunities to do so. He gets time on the 2nd PP unit and he produces nothing (as do the rest of them on that unit). He doesn't play with any fire, I just don't see how anyone can justify keeping him around after his contract expires in 2013.
- eichiefs9

not to beat a dead horse but if we had PAP when he was baileys age, you would have been calling for his head a long time ago....

Staple says Poulin likely stars tomorrow because of the 7 days off for older guys.


Honestly that is (frank)ing stupid. If Poulin plays tomorrow the (frank) this team. Nabby has been great. Give the team best chance to win. Poulin isn't it yet. Nabby is. Pisses me off

Staple says Poulin likely stars tomorrow because of the 7 days off for older guys.


Honestly that is (frank)ing stupid. If Poulin plays tomorrow the (frank) this team. Nabby has been great. Give the team best chance to win. Poulin isn't it yet. Nabby is. Pisses me off
- Isles316

remember when everyone female doged when they brought poulin up while he was playing some of his best hockey and they sat him for a few games....now they bring him up and play him and guess what....more complaints!!!!

ahhh to be an islander fan. some people just complain bc they can. love it

please dont compare Bailey to Tambellini. Tambellini was ahl superstar that couldnt translate to NHL. Thats what you call a Bust

Strome could use another year in minors or some of you will call him a bust.
Would have liked to see nino in minor this year, so he could come into NHL next year and be in calder running.

Not going to keep saying this but Josh Bailey is 22 years old. Just b/c he not putting up huge number immediately does not make him a bust. Different players had different learning curves. sure he started off slow this year as did KO. But now both are producing.
- Spartiarti

There is a huge difference between Bailey and Strome. Strome has an elite skillset that makes him an electifying player. Bailey never was close to being as talented. While I agree there's always the potential that Bailey can turn things around, what concerns me with him most is that we've seen virtually little to no improvement in Josh since he first entered the league.
Look at his numbers:
Year Team GP G A Pts
2008-09 NYI 68 7 18 25
2009-10 NYI 73 16 19 35
2010-11 NYI 70 11 17 28
2011-12 NYI 48 5 8 13

Now I'm not saying let's dump him off for a bag of pucks, but this kid was picked in the top 10. I'd certainly be quite willing to consider using him as a piece to sweeten a deal if it helped us bring in someone of impact.

Staple says Poulin likely stars tomorrow because of the 7 days off for older guys.


Honestly that is (frank)ing stupid. If Poulin plays tomorrow the (frank) this team. Nabby has been great. Give the team best chance to win. Poulin isn't it yet. Nabby is. Pisses me off
- Isles316

If Poulin starts over nabby then you have to think they are real close to trading him

Staple says Poulin likely stars tomorrow because of the 7 days off for older guys.


Honestly that is (frank)ing stupid. If Poulin plays tomorrow the (frank) this team. Nabby has been great. Give the team best chance to win. Poulin isn't it yet. Nabby is. Pisses me off
- Isles316

I saw that and I don't buy it. Montoya is 26 years old. How does this qualify him as an 'older' guy? And if Al's not healthy enough to start a game, why the hell is he even on the bench at all? I think that's simply poor speculation on Artie's part.

remember when everyone female doged when they brought poulin up while he was playing some of his best hockey and they sat him for a few games....now they bring him up and play him and guess what....more complaints!!!!

ahhh to be an islander fan. some people just complain bc they can. love it
- LetsGoIsles

I'm female doging because Poulin as of today does not give the isles the best chance to win. That to me as a fan is not acceptable. And as said, staple is speculating. He needs to find out instead of speculating. He sucks.

lets be clear about something - Josh Bailey is not my favorite isles. But if i had to build a team today i would take him over Moulson.
All my point is some fans are quick to pass judgment too early for a 22 year old. He was 9th overall pick, moving back in draft Got him Bailey and Hamonic vs just having Luke Schenn or Filatov (a hockeybuzz board favorite).

Bailey has 101 points in 259 NHL games translating to .38PPG. He was problem rushed a year too early and was only guy to make NHL other than Stamkos and Doughty in first year.

Other Notable pick that were not 1 or 2 in draft that were even an year or 2 older than Josh include.
B. Sutter 23 yrs old .36PPG
K Turris 3rd overall - 23 yrs old - .37PPG
Frolik 24 yrs old .48PPG
JVR - .51 PPG.
Mueller - .56ppg
Little .52ppg.

I can assure you if Josh Bailey got to play with better linemates like some of these guys above do, you wouldnt be quick to call him a bust. Bailey still needs to learn a few things like, better judgment on whether to pass or shoot.

remember when everyone female doged when they brought poulin up while he was playing some of his best hockey and they sat him for a few games....now they bring him up and play him and guess what....more complaints!!!!

ahhh to be an islander fan. some people just complain bc they can. love it
- LetsGoIsles

I dont get we play Poulin we dont play Poulin. We play Al we dont play Al. We play Nabby we dont play Nabby. We throw DP in cause we all need a laugh and it is good for morale or we watch him sit at home and laugh anyway. Islander country is awesome this time of year

lets be clear about something - Josh Bailey is not my favorite isles. But if i had to build a team today i would take him over Moulson.
All my point is some fans are quick to pass judgment too early for a 22 year old. He was 9th overall pick, moving back in draft Got him Bailey and Hamonic vs just having Luke Schenn or Filatov (a hockeybuzz board favorite).

Bailey has 101 points in 259 NHL games translating to .38PPG. He was problem rushed a year too early and was only guy to make NHL other than Stamkos and Doughty in first year.

Other Notable pick that were not 1 or 2 in draft that were even an year or 2 older than Josh include.
B. Sutter 23 yrs old .36PPG
K Turris 3rd overall - 23 yrs old - .37PPG
Frolik 24 yrs old .48PPG
JVR - .51 PPG.
Mueller - .56ppg
Little .52ppg.

I can assure you if Josh Bailey got to play with better linemates like some of these guys above do, you wouldnt be quick to call him a bust. Bailey still needs to learn a few things like, better judgment on whether to pass or shoot.
- Spartiarti

Ok it is now official either you are drinking or smoking or just plain lost your mind but man that has to be the quote of the year. Really? Bailey over Moulson? I think you have this man crush on Bailey and you need to stop he wont be here much longer

lets be clear about something - Josh Bailey is not my favorite isles. But if i had to build a team today i would take him over Moulson.
All my point is some fans are quick to pass judgment too early for a 22 year old. He was 9th overall pick, moving back in draft Got him Bailey and Hamonic vs just having Luke Schenn or Filatov (a hockeybuzz board favorite).

Bailey has 101 points in 259 NHL games translating to .38PPG. He was problem rushed a year too early and was only guy to make NHL other than Stamkos and Doughty in first year.

Other Notable pick that were not 1 or 2 in draft that were even an year or 2 older than Josh include.
B. Sutter 23 yrs old .36PPG
K Turris 3rd overall - 23 yrs old - .37PPG
Frolik 24 yrs old .48PPG
JVR - .51 PPG.
Mueller - .56ppg
Little .52ppg.

I can assure you if Josh Bailey got to play with better linemates like some of these guys above do, you wouldnt be quick to call him a bust. Bailey still needs to learn a few things like, better judgment on whether to pass or shoot.
- Spartiarti

And the Isles chose Duncan MacPherson over Luc Robitaille but Robitaille had a focus and natural instinct that made him a far better player.
At this stage I don't think we can get too wrapped up in Josh's stats. The only thing I look for is "IS JOSH BAILEY IMPROVING" and frankly that answer is now. Is he a battler. Nope...not really. Has he shown a competitive fire that makes me believe hes going to get it together. Not yet. This was the knock on Josh by scouts pre draft. He was seen as a guy with decent hands, average skating ability but a lack of competitive fire. When I see a player not only NOT improve over 4 years in the NHL but seemingly regress, I can't just attribute that to surrounding talent. I'm concerned he mentally doesn't process the game. That isn't always a curable problem.

And the Isles chose Duncan MacPherson over Luc Robitaille but Robitaille had a focus and natural instinct that made him a far better player.
At this stage I don't think we can get too wrapped up in Josh's stats. The only thing I look for is "IS JOSH BAILEY IMPROVING" and frankly that answer is now. Is he a battler. Nope...not really. Has he shown a competitive fire that makes me believe hes going to get it together. Not yet. This was the knock on Josh by scouts pre draft. He was seen as a guy with decent hands, average skating ability but a lack of competitive fire. When I see a player not only NOT improve over 4 years in the NHL but seemingly regress, I can't just attribute that to surrounding talent. I'm concerned he mentally doesn't process the game. That isn't always a curable problem.
- keaner17

Just seems he sees everything a half step slow and you never really see him truly fight in those one on one battles

Ok it is now official either you are drinking or smoking or just plain lost your mind but man that has to be the quote of the year. Really? Bailey over Moulson? I think you have this man crush on Bailey and you need to stop he wont be here much longer
- kasperrko

Moulson is the most one dimension player on the Team If he so good, why hasnt he been take off Tavares line to balance out the scoring?

Answer - Tavares is incredible and make anyone better. I do credit that Moulson does make the most of it and not afraid to shoot.

Have you notice on nights when Moulson doesnt score he is absolutely invisible during the game?

Get rid of Rolston and you'll see everyone production increase.

And the Isles chose Duncan MacPherson over Luc Robitaille but Robitaille had a focus and natural instinct that made him a far better player.
At this stage I don't think we can get too wrapped up in Josh's stats. The only thing I look for is "IS JOSH BAILEY IMPROVING" and frankly that answer is now. Is he a battler. Nope...not really. Has he shown a competitive fire that makes me believe hes going to get it together. Not yet. This was the knock on Josh by scouts pre draft. He was seen as a guy with decent hands, average skating ability but a lack of competitive fire. When I see a player not only NOT improve over 4 years in the NHL but seemingly regress, I can't just attribute that to surrounding talent. I'm concerned he mentally doesn't process the game. That isn't always a curable problem.
- keaner17

I'll take his frozen corps over Rolston any day of the week

Ok it is now official either you are drinking or smoking or just plain lost your mind but man that has to be the quote of the year. Really? Bailey over Moulson? I think you have this man crush on Bailey and you need to stop he wont be here much longer
- kasperrko

bailey over moulson... omg your on the kool aid... get a hold of your self ... bailey is NOT making the most of his oppertunities I KNOW YOUR IN LOVE WITH HIM but honestly after 100 games he is not cutting it

Ok it is now official either you are drinking or smoking or just plain lost your mind but man that has to be the quote of the year. Really? Bailey over Moulson? I think you have this man crush on Bailey and you need to stop he wont be here much longer
- kasperrko

as usual kass your right on the money with the man crush

bailey over moulson... omg your on the kool aid... get a hold of your self ... bailey is NOT making the most of his oppertunities I KNOW YOUR IN LOVE WITH HIM but honestly after 100 games he is not cutting it
- cmimbri

Bailey not getting that many opportunities if you really think about it. 1) he has to play with Rolston. 2) he never get chosen for shootouts 3) Very little to zero playing time on PP.

Matt Moulson should give Tavares half his paycheck.

Moulson is the most one dimension player on the Team If he so good, why hasnt he been take off Tavares line to balance out the scoring?

Answer - Tavares is incredible and make anyone better. I do credit that Moulson does make the most of it and not afraid to shoot.

Have you notice on nights when Moulson doesnt score he is absolutely invisible during the game?

Get rid of Rolston and you'll see everyone production increase.
- Spartiarti

I will take Moulson's one-dimensional 30+ goals/year and career -4 over Bailey's multi-dimensional 39 goals in four years and career -34.

lets be clear about something - Josh Bailey is not my favorite isles. But if i had to build a team today i would take him over Moulson.
All my point is some fans are quick to pass judgment too early for a 22 year old. He was 9th overall pick, moving back in draft Got him Bailey and Hamonic vs just having Luke Schenn or Filatov (a hockeybuzz board favorite).

Bailey has 101 points in 259 NHL games translating to .38PPG. He was problem rushed a year too early and was only guy to make NHL other than Stamkos and Doughty in first year.

Other Notable pick that were not 1 or 2 in draft that were even an year or 2 older than Josh include.
B. Sutter 23 yrs old .36PPG
K Turris 3rd overall - 23 yrs old - .37PPG
Frolik 24 yrs old .48PPG
JVR - .51 PPG.
Mueller - .56ppg
Little .52ppg.

I can assure you if Josh Bailey got to play with better linemates like some of these guys above do, you wouldnt be quick to call him a bust. Bailey still needs to learn a few things like, better judgment on whether to pass or shoot.
- Spartiarti

Moulson could have been an all star this year.

Bailey has sucked since he got here, and I'm getting tired of the "Islanders rushed him" excuse.

You, have been sniffing the glue, haven't ya. Come on, admit it!

Bring back Andy sutton for some size Haha